Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Please share where! For $45 less, I'd pick up the little green guy for sure.
Please share where! For $45 less, I'd pick up the little green guy for sure.
1/6th Scale TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Yeah, even back then Yoda wasn't gonna cost $50. I guess what it boils down to is people want something for nothing.
$50 dollar figures will never happen again. So yeah times have changed but then again I think most of us know that the early price of the SW figures were more about getting the line going than anything.
That was a fun thread to re-read. People talking about a $30-$50 Yoda
Oh how the times have changed.
Yeah, even back then Yoda wasn't gonna cost $50. I guess what it boils down to is people want something for nothing.
$50 dollar figures will never happen again. So yeah times have changed but then again I think most of us know that the early price of the SW figures were more about getting the line going than anything.
ProgMatinee
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
No, it doesn't boil down to that.
Stop making up strawman arguments.
Yoda's body is basically no different than the Toy Biz Gollum body from 10 years ago that sold for like $10.
I think most people realize that things cost money, the difference is that reasonable people think $50 is "something" and not "nothing".
It pretty apparent however that many collectors are not reasonable consumers. Rather, people willing to splurge on these no matter what else in the world is going on.
No, it doesn't boil down to that.
Stop making up strawman arguments.Yoda's body is basically no different than the Toy Biz Gollum body from 10 years ago that sold for like $10.
I think most people realize that things cost money, the difference is that reasonable people think $50 is "something" and not "nothing".
It pretty apparent however that many collectors are not reasonable consumers. Rather, people willing to splurge on these no matter what else in the world is going on.
Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Part of my savings is because I'm in CA and get hit with taxes to boot. So if Yoda is $85 + 8 tax + 10 ship = 103... I got mine on sale for 60 so that's $43 saved. BUT I also got a few other things so the shipping got amortized.
Part of my savings is because I'm in CA and get hit with taxes to boot. So if Yoda is $85 + 8 tax + 10 ship = 103... I got mine on sale for 60 so that's $43 saved. BUT I also got a few other things so the shipping got amortized.
devilof76
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Yeah, it does. I know you're a tight ass Prog but its a fact I'm sorry to break that to you. People all the time _____ about how they want items be it collectibles that are high quality for cheaper prices or _____ about I'll take a few less extras if it cost a little more. People want their cake and eat it to. Fact
Also no different than the Toy Biz gollum? Really? Have you even seen any of the toy biz gollum figures?
No ____! These cost money? Who knew? Point still stands when it comes to things we buy especially people want something for nothing.
No, it doesn't boil down to that.
Yeah, it does. I know you're a tight ass Prog but its a fact I'm sorry to break that to you. People all the time _____ about how they want items be it collectibles that are high quality for cheaper prices or _____ about I'll take a few less extras if it cost a little more. People want their cake and eat it to. Fact
Also no different than the Toy Biz gollum? Really? Have you even seen any of the toy biz gollum figures?
No ____! These cost money? Who knew? Point still stands when it comes to things we buy especially people want something for nothing.
Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Well I don't think prog is wanting something for nothing so much as more value for his dollar. Can't say that I blame him.
Well I don't think prog is wanting something for nothing so much as more value for his dollar. Can't say that I blame him.
devilof76
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
If I were more responsible, I would empathize.
Still, I think expecting no one to buy when the price gets high is unrealistic.
If I were more responsible, I would empathize.
Still, I think expecting no one to buy when the price gets high is unrealistic.
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Well, I don't know. I'm not going to complain about the cost in and of itself, but maybe the log could have been substituted for one or two alternate face sculpts?
I mean, it's a cool little mini-environment and the figure does look good with it - but in all fairness, any of us could have gotten a piece of driftwood or something if we really felt the need to have him sit on a log.
Meh, not really important I suppose. Maybe I can get a recast or repainted head down the road or something, with the eyes closed.
Oh, and it looks like I've got an ORANGE SNAKE coming! Elite status maintained!
I would still like to get a box, at some point, but I can wait. Maybe someone who is running out of room and is just going to throw it out anyway will just give it to me - hey, it happened with my Old Ben! (My first Sideshow figure, btw.)
I gotta ask - who are the two villains on either end?
Well, I don't know. I'm not going to complain about the cost in and of itself, but maybe the log could have been substituted for one or two alternate face sculpts?
I mean, it's a cool little mini-environment and the figure does look good with it - but in all fairness, any of us could have gotten a piece of driftwood or something if we really felt the need to have him sit on a log.
Meh, not really important I suppose. Maybe I can get a recast or repainted head down the road or something, with the eyes closed.
Oh, and it looks like I've got an ORANGE SNAKE coming! Elite status maintained!
I would still like to get a box, at some point, but I can wait. Maybe someone who is running out of room and is just going to throw it out anyway will just give it to me - hey, it happened with my Old Ben! (My first Sideshow figure, btw.)
I gotta ask - who are the two villains on either end?
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
I splruge. However, does anyone feel a little ripped off by the markup of this figure? Honestly, I appreciate higher end collectables hence I'm here. In all fairness, "Sideshows high end collectable yoda figure is not the best example of value and collector quality in this instance. I agree that the body is somewhat similar to a toy biz gollum. Ok,....but twisty ties and tape? one tray? lackluster repeated photo on the back of the box, wonky eye paint, dollar store plastic snake...production wise this figure is LAZY.
Stand corrected, We are not cheap, nor do we want something for nothing. It's the point. We are loyal and longtime collectors. We want value, and moreso, we want quality and consistency in the line. If you jack the prices up, please back it up with a little more care in quality.
I'm going to lay this off on gasoline prices so I dont get flamed in this forum. Wheeew! Everything is so expensive now!
however, If sideshow keeps
their current trajectory of presentation, mediocre quality vs inflated prices, sadly I'm out.
I splruge. However, does anyone feel a little ripped off by the markup of this figure? Honestly, I appreciate higher end collectables hence I'm here. In all fairness, "Sideshows high end collectable yoda figure is not the best example of value and collector quality in this instance. I agree that the body is somewhat similar to a toy biz gollum. Ok,....but twisty ties and tape? one tray? lackluster repeated photo on the back of the box, wonky eye paint, dollar store plastic snake...production wise this figure is LAZY.
Stand corrected, We are not cheap, nor do we want something for nothing. It's the point. We are loyal and longtime collectors. We want value, and moreso, we want quality and consistency in the line. If you jack the prices up, please back it up with a little more care in quality.
I'm going to lay this off on gasoline prices so I dont get flamed in this forum. Wheeew! Everything is so expensive now!
however, If sideshow keeps
their current trajectory of presentation, mediocre quality vs inflated prices, sadly I'm out.
Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
I guess I don't feel like I got cheapened with Yoda. Would I like more to him? Sure that would be great but I feel I got my monies worth. Nor do I feel that way with anything really I've gotten from Sideshow.
I guess I don't feel like I got cheapened with Yoda. Would I like more to him? Sure that would be great but I feel I got my monies worth. Nor do I feel that way with anything really I've gotten from Sideshow.
devilof76
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
We got a $75 figure.
We got a $75 figure.
FLOSI
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Mine is out for delivery.
Mine is out for delivery.
Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Hell yeah
Are you elite on this one Flosi?
Mine is out for delivery.
Hell yeah
Are you elite on this one Flosi?
galactiboy
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Yoda was $75... so you only saved $33 playa
I have to agree... the "mass market" company can sell figures for less money doesn't really work in that the units produced is far more than a total of 5,750. Also, I'm willing to bet that Toybiz or even larger companies like Hasbro have much more influence over the cost they pay for raw materials, labor, etc. Sideshow is small potatoes by comparison.
And of course, now that same Gollum would now cost more like $15-$17, is smaller, has less paint work; less accessories and no cloth outfit.
Yep, compared to what other 1/6 figures are going for Yoda is a solid value. I would agree that all figures MSRPs are more than they should be, but they do continue to sell despite the down economy
I would say that Yoda for $75 feels better than the BL in casual wear (who shares a head sculpt with the suit version) for $155.
Yoda was $75... so you only saved $33 playa
Also no different than the Toy Biz gollum? Really? Have you even seen any of the toy biz gollum figures?
I have to agree... the "mass market" company can sell figures for less money doesn't really work in that the units produced is far more than a total of 5,750. Also, I'm willing to bet that Toybiz or even larger companies like Hasbro have much more influence over the cost they pay for raw materials, labor, etc. Sideshow is small potatoes by comparison.
And of course, now that same Gollum would now cost more like $15-$17, is smaller, has less paint work; less accessories and no cloth outfit.
We got a $75 figure.
Yep, compared to what other 1/6 figures are going for Yoda is a solid value. I would agree that all figures MSRPs are more than they should be, but they do continue to sell despite the down economy
I would say that Yoda for $75 feels better than the BL in casual wear (who shares a head sculpt with the suit version) for $155.
devilof76
Super Freak
Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
What??? Those sunglasses alone are worth a c-note.
All the cheaper packaging just tells me that they had a rough time selling this for what they did.
What??? Those sunglasses alone are worth a c-note.
All the cheaper packaging just tells me that they had a rough time selling this for what they did.
ProgMatinee
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Is $50 "something" or "nothing"? Thats the question. IMO $50 is still something and I would wager that if SSC still wanted to work hard enough to sell 5000 units of something that all those U.S. Grants would amount to "something" for their bottom line too.
Instead, they don't want to bother with the marketing aspect and instead would rather count on 1000 addicts to pay $75-$135 for something that would be $50-$80 if they made 5000 of them.
This is all a retreaded argument, and we probably don't need to do it again, just personally, I don't feel all those times that I gave SSC my hard earned $50 that I was somehow taking advantage of them. Thats BS.
Also, regarding Yoda, I mention Gollum because I think people give SSC way too much credit for "developing" a new body for Yoda, when if you look back at Justinluck's thread, I'm willing to bet you'll see a post from me that mentions the Gollum body and how they should just rip it off. Well, they took my advice so great, but lets not give them kudos and use it as a justification for price increase.
Is $50 "something" or "nothing"? Thats the question. IMO $50 is still something and I would wager that if SSC still wanted to work hard enough to sell 5000 units of something that all those U.S. Grants would amount to "something" for their bottom line too.
Instead, they don't want to bother with the marketing aspect and instead would rather count on 1000 addicts to pay $75-$135 for something that would be $50-$80 if they made 5000 of them.
This is all a retreaded argument, and we probably don't need to do it again, just personally, I don't feel all those times that I gave SSC my hard earned $50 that I was somehow taking advantage of them. Thats BS.
Also, regarding Yoda, I mention Gollum because I think people give SSC way too much credit for "developing" a new body for Yoda, when if you look back at Justinluck's thread, I'm willing to bet you'll see a post from me that mentions the Gollum body and how they should just rip it off. Well, they took my advice so great, but lets not give them kudos and use it as a justification for price increase.
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
Of course $50 is something thats not my point.
I'm speaking to the fact people want say a Yoda or $50 everything he comes with and more for that price.
Higher ES just don't work anymore. Things just don't sell well enough to justify products have a 5k ES. So ES have to be smaller and we pay more. Thats the deal.
They did not take the gollum body and just rip it off. The Yoda body has more articulation than that. So they get praise for making a well made body for this character.
Of course $50 is something thats not my point.
I'm speaking to the fact people want say a Yoda or $50 everything he comes with and more for that price. Higher ES just don't work anymore. Things just don't sell well enough to justify products have a 5k ES. So ES have to be smaller and we pay more. Thats the deal.
They did not take the gollum body and just rip it off. The Yoda body has more articulation than that. So they get praise for making a well made body for this character.
ProgMatinee
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
its really a chicken or the egg. high price, low ES or low ES, high price?
its really a chicken or the egg. high price, low ES or low ES, high price?
galactiboy
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Re: Sideshow 1:6 TESB Yoda & Dagobah Hut Environment!
BTW, Yoda's ES is 5,000 Regular and 750 Exclusive
BTW, Yoda's ES is 5,000 Regular and 750 Exclusive
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