12 shot dead at movie theater

[hoodonit00]

Gun laws will never change. Too much money sent to politicians. If people are nuts we should make it harder not eiser to get weapons. It's easy for us to ban gays getting married but it's so hard to stop killer from buying multiple weapons? Where are our priorities? I live in the south...I know where the good old boys stand. He could have legally bought the guns.the sellers should have run a red flag. A guy with his background and education. Why does he need 4 weapons? Yes he bought at two locations but they should have seen via computer his past purchases based on his SSN. guy a should have said wait...he just bought 2 guns from guy b...something strange here.

Did you ever stop and think that just like what we collect here is a hobby that many gun enthusiast collect firearms because it is their hobby? Not to mention that we just like to go out to the range and do some plinking. To a gun enthusiast a firearm is a thing of beauty that is cherished much like we cherish our collections here. There are Tens of Millions of responsible gun owners. The bad eggs do not represent us all.

 

[ebor]

I love how everyone says that a gun in your home can provide adequate protection. I have a shotgun in my closet but if someone kicks open my door while I am watching TV I am screwed. The only way it would work out for me is if they had trouble getting in and I had time to run to my closet and grab the thing.

And now that I have a son I keep it unloaded and the shells in a separate location. So I would have to take the time to load it before I could use it.

And besides, how many children have killed themselves with their parents guns? And how many people have murdered their spouses or friends when enraged because they had the gun available?

I am not advocating completely taking away guns, but we should make it at least as hard as it is to get a license or certification. It's far too easy to get them. We need tighter controls.



If I have to jump through a million hoops, take tests, be tested physically and mentally, and pay hundreds of dollars to teach children.... I think people should have to do the same at the very least if they want to own a weapon.

agree with you on all of your aforementioned comments.

Where I live, if you LEGALLY own guns, all must be locked up, with individual trigger locks, ammunition MUST be stored in a separate and locked location. Sheesh, I think that some of the posters on this thread actually have loaded guns under their pillows at night...VERY scary thought.

 

[Niltusk]

I have no problems with tighter tests and regulations for gun control, as long as its not so rampant that its used as a tool to keep people that should have them being able to get them. I'm ex military and I still get itchy when I know someones CC'ing around me and I'm talking about my friends. I definitely don't want to be an accident statistic, but i definitely believe in peoples rights to have firearms. Anyone against it should honestly just utilize their right to renounce and go to one of those awesome countries where people can't own guns. Won't miss ya', I promise

 

[csi]

I'm all for owning guns I just laugh at the idea that if 50 people had been carrying in that theatre that there would be less deaths or injuries. I know you think you are the best sharp shooter in the history of the world but not everyone else is. Would you trust a stranger to drive your infant home? Would you trust a stranger to shoot around your baby in the dark?

Your user name is CSi so u must a big shot jack bauer home security guy. Since you are such a marksmen, mind sharing your real name and accomplishments in shooting. My wife works for homeland security, she can see if you've won any awards.

lol, still resorting to _______ internet insults to seem tougher then everyone else huh. Keep making your ignorant assumptions if it makes you feel better then everyone else.

For the record I do not currently own a gun. I have always been worried about having guns in the house with a little kid. My father in law has a ton of guns as did my grandfather growing up. I have had ample opportunity to shot guns of all kinds, but would not consider myself an expert by any means, but definitely competent enough to defend myself or my family using one. With the way the economy and country are heading I have thought long and hard about changing my position about having a gun in the house. I have even considered getting a carry permit. So far I have not acted on either, but I am getting closer by the day.

 

[hoodonit00]

Sep 11th, didn't involve any hand guns either

Yea good point but people need to see how something like fertilizer, thats primary use is for plants can be used to make a weapon which can kill many people.

 

[VASith]

Did you ever stop and think that just like what we collect here is a hobby that many gun enthusiast collect firearms because it is their hobby? Not to mention that we just like to go out to the range and do some plinking. To a gun enthusiast a firearm is a thing of beauty that is cherished much like we cherish our collections here. There are Tens of Millions of responsible gun owners. The bad eggs do not represent us all.

Nope.. I respect that. And if you are what you say you are, you should be furious with this guy..not defending him and his right to buy guns. My boss shoots every weekend. I get it, it's a hobby. But when someone buys an ak47, shotgun and 2 pistols questions should be asked. If the gun seller had mentioned something tithe cops maybe this would have never happened. I would never take guns out of responsible owners. The question is how to we determine who is responsible? Most people here don't want any background check. I think that's scary.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

I love how everyone says that a gun in your home can provide adequate protection. I have a shotgun in my closet but if someone kicks open my door while I am watching TV I am screwed. The only way it would work out for me is if they had trouble getting in and I had time to run to my closet and grab the thing.

And now that I have a son I keep it unloaded and the shells in a separate location. So I would have to take the time to load it before I could use it.

That's improper planning on your part.

And besides, how many children have killed themselves with their parents guns? And how many people have murdered their spouses or friends when enraged because they had the gun available?

Seems like improper storage on the parents part. Having a child means people have to be responsible now. Being a gun owner also requires responsibility. And those people have some kind of impulse control problem. I carry a gun, and I have no problem controlling myself when my wife or friends are around.

I am not advocating completely taking away guns, but we should make it at least as hard as it is to get a license or certification. It's far too easy to get them. We need tighter controls.

You have to 18 to purchase rifles and 21 to purchase handguns in my state. At these ages people can vote and buy alcohol, should we also control this?

If I have to jump through a million hoops, take tests, be tested physically and mentally, and pay hundreds of dollars to teach children.... I think people should have to do the same at the very least if they want to own a weapon.

Umm sorry? I had similar things for my career, but don't see what my choice of profession's licensure, registration, and exams have to do with someone's right to buy guns.

 

[Niltusk]

Did you ever stop and think that just like what we collect here is a hobby that many gun enthusiast collect firearms because it is their hobby? Not to mention that we just like to go out to the range and do some plinking. To a gun enthusiast a firearm is a thing of beauty that is cherished much like we cherish our collections here. There are Tens of Millions of responsible gun owners. The bad eggs do not represent us all.

This.

One of my neighbors has what may be deemed an unhealthy collection of guns, but hasn't fired a shot in over 30 years. His father was a collector and after he passed its something hes just carried on. My guess is it just makes him feel close to his dad.

 

[hoodonit00]

kind of like if someone returned fire



"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns..." - Mao Tze Tung

Many Americans like their right to defend their liberties, its as simple as that, and something that people in, say, China are not afforded.

Damn, whole post, well said.

 

[VASith]

lol, still resorting to _______ internet insults to seem tougher then everyone else huh. Keep making your ignorant assumptions if it makes you feel better then everyone else.

For the record I do not currently own a gun. I have always been worried about having guns in the house with a little kid. My father in law has a ton of guns as did my grandfather growing up. I have had ample opportunity to shot guns of all kinds, but would not consider myself an expert by any means, but definitely competent enough to defend myself or my family using one. With the way the economy and country are heading I have thought long and hard about changing my position about having a gun in the house. I have even considered getting a carry permit. So far I have not acted on either, but I am getting closer by the day.

If you think buying a gun makes you safer then so be it. Just make sure you get trained and have a lock especially if you have a little one. But if you think owning a gun will turn the economy around then...

 

[dvdwyn]

(CNN) -- The suspect in the mass shooting at an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater screening of the new Batman film early Friday had colored his hair red and told police he was "the Joker," according to a federal law enforcement source with detailed knowledge of the investigation.

this is one of the reason i dont collect villain character in my collection.. except for incoming DOOM LSF, but i might change my mind now.. i mean if we support villain character by buying it's statue, in a away do we support the villain way? dang, i PO'ed poison ivy already..

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Sheesh, I think that some of the posters on this thread actually have loaded guns under their pillows at night...VERY scary thought.

Why is that scary? If someone breaks into my house with intent to kill me or my family members I seriously doubt they'll wait for me to load my guns.

 

[hoodonit00]

Fair enough. There have been over 26000 deaths innocent and military in Afghanistan since war started. Your numbers still don't match up.

You're grasping at straws. You know good and well he was talking American casualties.

 

[VASith]

That's improper planning on your part.


Seems like improper storage on the parents part. And those people have some kind of impulse control problem. I carry a gun, and I have no problem controlling myself when my wife or friends are around.


You have to 18 to purchase rifles and 21 to purchase handguns in my state. At these ages people can vote and buy alcohol, should we also control this?


Umm sorry? I had similar things for my career, but don't see what my choice of profession's licensure, registration, and exams have to do with someone's right to buy guns.

There is a bill here in Virginia to allow 8 year olds to carry guns to school. Is that too young for you?

 

[DarkArtist81]

You'd trip over your boxers running to get gun. that's why most sane people don't have a loaded gun in house. Statistics show that's it's far more dangerous to have a weapon in the house. Gotta realize some of these guys are 15year olds hopped up on their last cod game and think they are in the military and all that.

I agree! When I was interning last year, kids constantly talked to me about what guns I used when I was in the military and what my favorites were. They could name them, their attachments, and more.

I made sure that I told them, as often as I could, that shooting in real life is NOT like COD and that while I have never killed anyone or been in combat... that my fellow vets that I know closely can attest that combat is not like COD either.

 

[csi]

im not against guns. i AM however, against trusting people's poor discretion when it comes to their marksmen abilities where it concerns my life. When their self protection is a detriment to MY or MY families safety is when i have issue with it.

same with me. As a matter of fact I would prefer it if you gave up driving because I don't think your as safe as I would like you to be and I am afraid to have you on the road with my family.

I wonder if your position would be changed if you were one of the many people who has been saved by a regular citizen carrying a gun?

You'd trip over your boxers running to get gun. that's why most sane people don't have a loaded gun in house. Statistics show that's it's far more dangerous to have a weapon in the house. Gotta realize some of these guys are 15year olds hopped up on their last cod game and think they are in the military and all that.

since your so big on proving your statistics I would think you would have already posted them to back up your statement

 

[minivader]

just listened to Rohls (one of the survivor) recount his experience on Piers Morgan. One thing he mentioned was in the condition of darkness, tons of panicked people running and screaming for their lives and smokes, he can't even tell how many shooter there was.

 

[VASith]

You're grasping at straws. You know good and well he was talking American casualties.

No. I honestly on my life, my wife's life Andy baby's life I had no idea. He said deaths. He didn't clarify it why would you classify who dies? It's still a death. To classify it would throw the whole argument out the window.

 

[hoodonit00]

So a death to you only counts if they are American? If there were tourists at the movie their deaths don't count? You are the one who wanted to compare Chicago and Afghanistan. Don't back away now since your number don't match. A death to you only counts if they are American ? I never said I wanted to ban guns. Don't put words in my mouth. You stated more people dies in Chicago compared to Afghanistan. Your numbers lie. Unless you don't count the un American innocents killed in the war. Maybe there was a French baby in the theatre who got killed. Does that count? Try and sell your agenda some where else.

OMG You were shown that you were wrong and now you're going off on a tangent. Are you sure you're 40?

 

[VASith]

I agree! When I was interning last year, kids constantly talked to me about what guns I used when I was in the military and what my favorites were. They could name them, their attachments, and more.

I made sure that I told them, as often as I could, that shooting in real life is NOT like COD and that while I have never killed anyone or been in combat... that my fellow vets that I know closely can attest that combat is not like COD either.

That's the scary thing. They think you hit triangle and you shoot someone. Or hold inr2 to zoom in. It's all a fantasy world. Yet real people die like today.