12 shot dead at movie theater

[user 1190]

I believe they would be included in the whole right to bear arms thing.

Arms are defined as a weapon. I have never heard a bullet defined as a weapon. So bullets would not be defined as arms.

 

[hoodonit00]

That's why there should be rules in place maybe. 1 gun per month. I don't know. Anyone who buys an ak rifle plus 3 other guns close to Columbine shoud be red flagged. We need to start taking more responsibility as a nation. Not less.

Why don't you just come out and say what you think should be done. Don't beat around the bush no more, just say it.

 

[NASEDO]

I need my gun...thats how I survive. I kill my food.

 

[hoodonit00]

And I'd never own a gun. I have 2 Marshall's and 2 black water ops as friends 3 houses down. Plenty of guns on my street.

Lot of damn good that will do you if some psycho comes barging in your house as you're watching tv with your family some evening.

 

[csi]

Arms are defined as a weapon. I have never heard a bullet defined as a weapon. So bullets would not be defined as arms.

damn, does anyone on here know how to actually use the internet to look crap up before they type?


arms plural of arms (Noun)
Noun:

Weapons and ammunition; armaments: "they were subjugated by force of arms".
Distinctive emblems or devices, forming the heraldic insignia of families, corporations, or countries.

 

[VASith]

I'm on another board that has a lot of police and military on it. All of them and many of the police you see every day police are perfectly ok with civilian gun ownership. They also know that armed civilians have thwarted all kinds of crimes. As far as calling the police because someone has these weapons, so what if they do? Does not make them a lunatic because they have these weapons. What makes them a lunatic is whatever is hard wired wrong in their heads to make them do something like this.

They are ok with ownership. Would they agree with posters here who say that someone with a gun would have saved the day and shot thus guy without harming anyone else? How could they say that without knowing this persons shooting skills. There are guys here who say they could have shot the guy. 600 yards away in the smoke with a back hand shot and hit him right between the eyes. Sorry but I'm not trusting my family's life to a cod 15 year old wanna be with a gun. You ask any cop about a dark, smokey, gas filled room with people running around...they will say it's most difficult situation.

 

[user 1190]

I make my own in my garage so that wouldn't stop a psycho from doing it either.

You make your worn casing, gun powder and bullets? Those would obviously be part of the ban

 

[VASith]

Lot of damn good that will do you if some psycho comes barging in your house as you're watching tv with your family some evening.

Security system. I've got knives that will fillet anyone coming into my house.

 

[Niltusk]

But dig further. Do a bit more research and you see the number is much higher for people dead. Not Americans. But people dead. The op never stated anything about American deaths. Should we start classification on black, white and Latino deaths?

Dig for what? Its an article from a credible news source (oxymoron in itself, but you asked for it)

But if you're trying to be technical his post said in like 10 year period. Your reply was something like 280. Really? You think 280 people have been murdered in chicago in a 10 year period? WTF candtyland you live in?

 

[Niltusk]

Arms are defined as a weapon. I have never heard a bullet defined as a weapon. So bullets would not be defined as arms.

stupid kids are stupid, whatcha gonna do?

 

[csi]

They are ok with ownership. Would they agree with posters here who say that someone with a gun would have saved the day and shot thus guy without harming anyone else? How could they say that without knowing this persons shooting skills. There are guys here who say they could have shot the guy. 600 yards away in the smoke with a back hand shot and hit him right between the eyes. Sorry but I'm not trusting my family's life to a cod 15 year old wanna be with a gun. You ask any cop about a dark, smokey, gas filled room with people running around...they will say it's most difficult situation.

so are you against people owning guns, or using them in smoke filled rooms? Your posts seem to be against guns. If your ok with people owing guns for their protection then who are you to differentiate where and when they are able to defend themselves? If your not ok with gun ownership then just say you disagree with what most police have said?

 

[VASith]

Why don't you just come out and say what you think should be done. Don't beat around the bush no more, just say it.

That's a whole different discussion. But to start you should need a background check. Most gun shows don't require it. Second, if you want to carry you should pass a safety class. Just like a driving test. Third, you should have to update it yearly, I don't want an 80 year old who can't see waving a pistol around. And if you buy a gun you must buy a child lock. Even if you don't have kids. I don't think those are unreasonable expectations.

 

[user 1190]

damn, does anyone on here know how to actually use the internet to look crap up before they type?


armsplural of arms (Noun)
Noun:

Weapons and ammunition; armaments: "they were subjugated by force of arms".
Distinctive emblems or devices, forming the heraldic insignia of families, corporations, or countries.

Actually meriam-webster does not include ammunition Way to look at one answer.

 

[Niltusk]

Actually meriam-webster does not include ammunition Way to look at one answer.

Congrats on being so stupid you'd have to look it up.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

You make your worn casing, gun powder and bullets? Those would obviously be part of the ban

It's really not that hard. If you have time and patience, yes.

 

[VASith]

so are you against people owning guns, or using them in smoke filled rooms? Your posts seem to be against guns. If your ok with people owing guns for their protection then who are you to differentiate where and when they are able to defend themselves? If your not ok with gun ownership then just say you disagree with what most police have said?

I'm all for owning guns I just laugh at the idea that if 50 people had been carrying in that theatre that there would be less deaths or injuries. I know you think you are the best sharp shooter in the history of the world but not everyone else is. Would you trust a stranger to drive your infant home? Would you trust a stranger to shoot around your baby in the dark?

Your user name is CSi so u must a big shot jack bauer home security guy. Since you are such a marksmen, mind sharing your real name and accomplishments in shooting. My wife works for homeland security, she can see if you've won any awards.

 

[DarkArtist81]

I love how everyone says that a gun in your home can provide adequate protection. I have a shotgun in my closet but if someone kicks open my door while I am watching TV I am screwed. The only way it would work out for me is if they had trouble getting in and I had time to run to my closet and grab the thing.

And now that I have a son I keep it unloaded and the shells in a separate location. So I would have to take the time to load it before I could use it.

And besides, how many children have killed themselves with their parents guns? And how many people have murdered their spouses or friends when enraged because they had the gun available?

I am not advocating completely taking away guns, but we should make it at least as hard as it is to get a license or certification. It's far too easy to get them. We need tighter controls.

If I have to jump through a million hoops, take tests, be tested physically and mentally, and pay hundreds of dollars to teach children.... I think people should have to do the same at the very least if they want to own a weapon.

 

[diecast]

so are you against people owning guns, or using them in smoke filled rooms? Your posts seem to be against guns. If your ok with people owing guns for their protection then who are you to differentiate where and when they are able to defend themselves? If your not ok with gun ownership then just say you disagree with what most police have said?

im not against guns. i AM however, against trusting people's poor discretion when it comes to their marksmen abilities where it concerns my life. When their self protection is a detriment to MY or MY families safety is when i have issue with it.

 

[The Mike]

I don't think he was pre-med. PhD in neuroscience, at least that's what I read.

You're right. The latest:

Contrary to earlier reports, Holmes was not a medical student. Dan Meyers, communications director for the University of Colorado School of Medicine, tells E! News: "He was in a graduate program in neuroscience. That's different from being in the School of Medicine. The graduate program is part of the University of Colorado Denver. The neuro program is located on the Anschutz Medical Campus in Aurora, Colo."
• In a statement, the school's Anschutz Medical Campus confirms that Holmes "was in the process of withdrawing from the University of Colorado Denver's graduate program in neurosciences," where he had enrolled in June 2011."

Still very odd, there is more to this and I would argue that even his selected target ties into it. He went to one of the biggest premieres of the summer where the knew there'd be a ton of people there but there are plenty of places he could have gone that would have more people in it. He had over 6,000 pieces of ammunition and yet ran out and returned to his truck to wait for authorities, didn't head back in to continue? There is a big part missing.

 

[VASith]

I love how everyone says that a gun in your home can provide adequate protection. I have a shotgun in my closet but if someone kicks open my door while I am watching TV I am screwed. The only way it would work out for me is if they had trouble getting in and I had time to run to my closet and grab the thing.

And now that I have a son I keep it unloaded and the shells in a separate location. So I would have to take the time to load it before I could use it.

And besides, how many children have killed themselves with their parents guns? And how many people have murdered their spouses or friends when enraged because they had the gun available?

I am not advocating completely taking away guns, but we should make it at least as hard as it is to get a license or certification. It's far too easy to get them. We need tighter controls.

If I have to jump through a million hoops, take tests, be tested physically and mentally, and pay hundreds of dollars to teach children.... I think people should have to do the same at the very least if they want to own a weapon.

You'd trip over your boxers running to get gun. that's why most sane people don't have a loaded gun in house. Statistics show that's it's far more dangerous to have a weapon in the house. Gotta realize some of these guys are 15year olds hopped up on their last cod game and think they are in the military and all that.