12 shot dead at movie theater

[csi]

No kidding. After they start banning semi-auto rifles, pistols are the next logical list right?

yeah, people will only be allowed to own muzzle loaders eventually

 

[devilof76]

DC sniper used a bolt action rifle, yes?

 

[csi]

I'm not talking about Doomsday. Or maybe I am.

Which is less likely? A western nation descending into economic chaos and being taken over by zealots, or an eternal status quo that persists in the face of the laws of economic causality?

What started WWII?

I think people need to completely evade questions like that to look at a person with a fully stocked pantry and laugh at them for being paranoid.

my sister in laws family has been buying freeze dried food in bulk and storing it for some end times/doomsday scenario. At first I thougth she was kind of silly, but seeing whats been going on in the world makes me wonder if she is just being prepared.

 

[thenammagazine]

Free ____ for everyone no matter what the cost. Yea that won't turn out bad.

I don't mean this as a slight by any means, but DA basically lives off of the system, so he only benefits from that. So I doubt his POV will be the same as those who are not.

He said he believed in strong laws against black market trafficking. You know, like how tougher drug laws stopped the drug trade

What laws have been passed to increase the penalties for illegal gun trafficking? The Democratic party was supporting it, trafficking illegal firearms to Central America. Wouldn't stricter laws mean potentially the incarceration of our Attorney General and the impeachment of our President/Commander in Chief, both of whom are guilty of not only promoting, but financing illegal trafficking up to and including the blackmailing of gun shop owners to sell to known gun traffickers with felony convictions?

 

[Kibishii]

I'm not talking about Doomsday. Or maybe I am.

Which is less likely? A western nation descending into economic chaos and being taken over by zealots, or an eternal status quo that persists in the face of the laws of economic causality?

What started WWII?

I was being sarcastic with the Doomsday Preppers clip most of those people are nutjobs; however, a severe economic meltdown is a possibility. WWII was caused by widespread political and technological changes in Europe as well as severe economic sanctions put on Germany as punishment for WWI. All of this led to Germany resenting the rest of Europe and allowing a complete madman to gain control.

 

[hoodonit00]

How about a protracted economic collapse in which the majority of social institutions are no long able to provide the services many depend upon for survival?

Or a natural disaster on the order of the L.A. riots or Hurricane Katrina? Any time you do not have police to defend yourself would be a good time to have more firepower than you would normally need.

Now don't be posting a possible scenario. You'll be labeled a person looking forward to the apocalypse.

 

[thenammagazine]

I was being sarcastic with the Doomsday Preppers clip, but a severe economic meltdown is a possibility. WWII was caused by widespread political and technological changes in Europe as well as severe economic sanctions put on Germany as punishment for WWI. All of this led to Germany resenting the rest of Europe and allowing a complete madman to gain control.

Yet, at the time, from many a German's perspective, Hitler was the messiah bringing an impoverished nation up to the point of being a superpower. Perspective is funny when you look at it from different POVs.

 

[hoodonit00]

I don't mean this as a slight by any means, but DA basically lives off of the system, so he only benefits from that. So I doubt his POV will be the same as those who are not.

Yea I'm better off not commenting on that.

 

[csi]

I don't mean this as a slight by any means, but DA basically lives off of the system, so he only benefits from that. So I doubt his POV will be the same as those who are not.



What laws have been passed to increase the penalties for illegal gun trafficking? The Democratic party was supporting it, trafficking illegal firearms to Central America. Wouldn't stricter laws mean potentially the incarceration of our Attorney General and the impeachment of our President/Commander in Chief, both of whom are guilty of not only promoting, but financing illegal trafficking up to and including the blackmailing of gun shop owners to sell to known gun traffickers with felony convictions?

so basically the democrats idea of gun control is them controlling the sale of illegal arms

 

[thenammagazine]

Yea I'm better off not commenting on that.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

yeah, people will only be allowed to own muzzle loaders eventually

Luckily I already have a couple. My dad taught me how to shoot with a Muzzleloader. We used to do the period re-enactment stuff when I was younger. And every month we would go to the muzzleloader club shoots.

DC sniper used a bolt action rifle, yes?

IIRC yes. IMO that scenario is much more terrifying than what just happened.

 

[devilof76]

The way some read the 2nd Amendment, you'd think that all it meant was muzzleloaders, to be used strictly for shooting turkeys.

I was being sarcastic with the Doomsday Preppers clip, but a severe economic meltdown is a possibility. WWII was caused by widespread political and technological changes in Europe as well as severe economic sanctions put on Germany as punishment for WWI. All of this led to Germany resenting the rest of Europe and allowing a complete madman to gain control.

Germany may have taken a major hit for WWI (kinda asked for it) but in the wake of that problem, they chose to begin socializing their economy. By 1923, the Weimar Revolution had driven the exchange value of the Deutchmark into a 1:4,230,000 relationship with the U.S. dollar. Chaos ensued. In need of a strong leader, they turned to the man who promised them true socialism (and not an abrupt 180 towards the market economy of the U.S. and Britain) for the price of a total state. The only way those with true vision could bring true prosperity was for those who did not represent "the truth" to be rendered politically impotent. The only way to do that was to guarantee that the Nazi party had total control. Because they could only extend that as far as their own borders, they sought to expand.

Italy was thinking the same. So was Japan. So was Russia.

Total state = total war. The totalitarianism of the early 20th century was a direct consequence of the interventionist economics of the era. It's difficult to ignore those signs as they have manifest right here and now. I'm just thankful that there remains a vestige of the original anti-totalitarian political philosophy in American culture. Germany never had that.

 

[csi]

IIRC yes. IMO that scenario is much more terrifying than what just happened.

I agree. At least if your face to face with a shooter you would like to think there is a chance, no mater how miniscule, of defending yourself. With a sniper you have no chance.

 

[csi]

Germany may have taken a major hit for WWI (kinda asked for it) but in the wake of that problem, they chose to begin socializing their economy. By 1923, the Weimar Revolution had driven the exchange value of the Deutchmark into a 1:4.23 trillion relationship with the U.S. dollar. Chaos ensued. In need of a strong leader, they turned to the man who promised them true socialism (and not an abrupt 180 towards the market economy of the U.S. and Britain) for the price of a total state. The only way those with true vision could bring true prosperity was for those who did not represent "the truth" to be rendered politically impotent. The only way to do that was to guarantee that the Nazi party had total control. Because they could only extend that as far as their own borders, they sought to expand.

Italy was thinking the same. So was Japan. So was Russia.

Total state = total war. The totalitarianism of the early 20th century was a direct consequence of the interventionist economics of the era. It's difficult to ignore those signs as they have manifest right here and now.

I'll share the quote again:

"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns..." - Mao Tze Tung

 

[thenammagazine]

I'll share the quote again:

"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns..." - Mao Tze Tung

There are some idiots on this very board who think Mao should be praised as a hero and a pop culture icon.

 

[csi]

There are some idiots on this very board who think Mao should be praised as a hero and a pop culture icon.

then let them go live in the glorious land of China. I am sure they won't mind the lack of civil rights.

 

[Jen]

has there been any report about what size magazines he had for his AR-15? My father in law has one with two 20 round clips. That makes it not a whole lot different then a semi auto handgun as far as rounds go.

I believe I read that he had 100 round clips.

 

[devilof76]

I'll share the quote again:

"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns..." - Mao Tze Tung

You know what's ____ed up about 1920's Germany? They didn't need to ban guns. They didn't even need to ban travel outside the country.

Talk about political unity.

 

[hoodonit00]

Outstanding video by Ice-T.
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[hoodonit00]

There are some idiots on this very board who think Mao should be praised as a hero and a pop culture icon.

Same with Che Guevera.