12 shot dead at movie theater

[Jen]

Jen, I just want to say that not all prognostications were created equal. People can manufacture justification. The real question is how you tell the difference.

That is true.

 

[csi]

Questions are perfectly fine and there are people on here trying to answer some of them. People keep saying how they see no reason for civilians to have a semi-automatic, and we give logical explanations but it isn't good enough for some. Many countries are teetering on economic collapse. No fantasy there just listen to the news. in an event like that do you not think that crime will take off? Look at what happened in the LA. riots? I have a rifle because I like to shoot as a hobby. I have the type of rifle I have just in case.

you can't come on here proclaiming your rights under the 2nd while stomping on someone else's 1st.

 

[Niltusk]

Yes he used to be a couple years ago....but still his post was nothing but trolling. I think the mods in this thread have been pretty laid back in these discussions - whether they agree with it or not. Definitely no over modding taking place here so I'm not sure what his argument is.

No, what you're doing is trolling. You made an assumption in the middle of this that I was talking about Dark Artist and you fly off the handle.

Now when I made a wrong assumption in the thread I got endless BS shoveled on me from you and your fellow mod. ;-)

 

[DarthNeil]

Read Hoodonits post from him saying your pic made it seem like you didn't like America. If you spent less time trying to be witty and troll people and get the last word in, its probably going to be real easy for you to follow the back and forth between Hoodonit and DarkArtist. He said he sticks by his opinion and I'm saying he wasting his time, but of course, you super zoom right on me again looking to start more crap. Don't know why anyone would want on mod on the ignore.

I did read it. He didn't read the posts from csi prior to that to understand the context.

I'm trolling people?

 

[hoodonit00]

It is horrific-- I'll bring it up to Dave. It's also unfortunate that different opinions can't be respected.

That's laughable. You don't respect any of the "gun guys" opinions in this thread. Your posts in this thread are filled with sarcasm and thinly veiled anger and hostility. if I thought it would make a difference I would go through and quote all of it into a single post but frankly it's not worth my time.

 

[DarthNeil]

you can't come on here proclaiming your rights under the 2nd while stomping on someone else's 1st.

You are far too level-headed. Get out. (I hope that didn't come across as too witty.)

 

[csi]

I did read it. He didn't read the posts from csi prior to that to understand the context.

I'm trolling people?

sure, blame me

 

[Niltusk]

I did read it. He didn't read the posts from csi prior to that to understand the context.

I'm trolling people?

That's laughable. You don't respect any of the "gun guys" opinions in this thread. Your posts in this thread are filled with sarcasm and thinly veiled anger and hostility. if I thought it would make a difference I would go through and quote all of it into a single post but frankly it's not worth my time.

It seems he did understand your context and still found it distasteful. Not that you give a crap, obviously.

 

[devilof76]

...for ____'s sake. I thought this crap was over and done with...

 

[hoodonit00]

you can't come on here proclaiming your rights under the 2nd while stomping on someone else's 1st.

Where in my post does it suggest that I'm "stomping" on someone elses 1st amendment right?

 

[DarthNeil]

That's laughable. You don't respect any of the "gun guys" opinions in this thread. Your posts in this thread are filled with sarcasm and thinly veiled anger and hostility. if I thought it would make a difference I would go through and quote all of it into a single post but frankly it's not worth my time.

I haven't said anything about gun owners. Where have I shown disrespect? Please post.

Anger and hostility? Yes, I'm a burning cauldron of those (sorry-- that was probably sarcasm)

 

[DarthNeil]

...for ____'s sake. I thought this crap was over and done with...

Same here.

 

[devilof76]

Sucks.

 

[Jen]

Questions are perfectly fine and there are people on here trying to answer some of them. People keep saying how they see no reason for civilians to have a semi-automatic, and we give logical explanations but it isn't good enough for some. Many countries are teetering on economic collapse. No fantasy there just listen to the news. in an event like that do you not think that crime will take off? Look at what happened in the LA. riots? I have a rifle because I like to shoot as a hobby. I have the type of rifle I have just in case.

I guess my reality is that if there were such a riot and hordes of people (armed or unarmed) were going to try and break into my home. It would be game over for me. If Seattle turned into a war zone - I would simple get on a boat and go to one of the islands and try and survive there, finding my own food and making shelter. Would I survive for long? Who knows but I like my chances with that a lot better than trying to fight off rioters. If ____ really hit the fan...let them take my home, my possessions...it's all material and really doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. For someone like me, it makes more sense to flee than fight. Now if it was just one intruder breaking in...then I would fight. But I got to look at my odds..and I'm not going to try and be Rambo because that will most likely be the quickest way I get killed.

Now this is the scenario for my situation...not saying this applies or should apply to anyone else.

Didn't say he was. Is this going to be like this morning when you wouldn't stop trolling until I just ignored you? Thats right, even after I stopped you posted twice more on it, but what happened to the second post? Even you realized you sounded too much like an over the top troll when I wasn't even responding anymore so you deleted it? Yeah, I saw it before you deleted it. Didn't respond, obviously someone had to take the high road, why would it be the mods?

I deleted it because DarthNeil was trying to get the thread on track and I realized there is no debating with people like you. Better to just let it go. But thanks for bringing it back up again. Glad you took that high road.

 

[DarthNeil]

Sucks.

True

Maybe instead of the focus on gun laws people should be looking closer at the movement of our society towards individuals who have absolutely no social contact and thus have no sense of remorse for taking a cowardly action like this. He probably lived in front of his computer with limited social interactions with real people and thus he felt very alien from our society.

 

[Niltusk]

I guess my reality is that if there were such a riot and hordes of people (armed or unarmed) were going to try and break into my home. It would be game over for me. If Seattle turned into a war zone - I would simple get on a boat and go to one of the islands and try and survive there, finding my own food and making shelter. Would I survive for long? Who knows but I like my chances with that a lot better than trying to fight off rioters. If ____ really hit the fan...let them take my home, my possessions...it's all material and really doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. For someone like me, it makes more sense to flee than fight. Now if it was just one intruder breaking in...then I would fight. But I got to look at my odds..and I'm not going to try and be Rambo because that will most likely be the quickest way I get killed.

Now this is the scenario for my situation...not saying this applies or should apply to anyone else.



I deleted it because DarthNeil was trying to get the thread on track and I realized there is no debating with people like you. Better to just let it go. But thanks for bringing it back up again. Glad you took that high road.

I didn't respond to you troll. I responded to Hoodonnit and you and Dath both jumped on me, again. Congrats on making zero sense.

 

[Jen]

No, what you're doing is trolling. You made an assumption in the middle of this that I was talking about Dark Artist and you fly off the handle.

Now when I made a wrong assumption in the thread I got endless BS shoveled on me from you and your fellow mod. ;-)

Excuse me for assuming you were talking about DarkArtist when you quoted someone who was responding to DarkArtist. My bad. See if I make a wrong assumption, I can admit it and move on.

 

[KitFisto]

Most liberals ( not all ) will always be anti-gun and for stronger gun control laws until citizens are left unarmed. The left seems to think that if guns are illegal that criminals will no longer have them ( LOL )

The government desires unarmed citizens. Much easier to control and round up when the time comes.

 

[devilof76]

True

Maybe instead of the focus on gun laws people should be looking closer at the movement of our society towards individuals who have absolutely no social contact and thus have no sense of remorse for taking a cowardly action like this. He probably lived in front of his computer with limited social interactions with real people and thus he felt very alien from our society.

That would be especially interesting. It just so happens that this psychological phenomenon has roots in a historical time and place that would, and would not surprise many people. For one, the technological distance between people was much smaller. Very pastoral societies. For two, they became notorious for their willingness to kill people.

Alienation, angst, etc. is a distinction straight out of 19th century German academia, and art, and it was an accurate reflection of the culture. (The phenomenon transplanted successfully in Russia.)

 

[Niltusk]

Excuse me for assuming you were talking about DarkArtist when you quoted someone who was responding to DarkArtist. My bad. See if I make a wrong assumption, I can admit it and move on.

I'm all for it. Finally somethign we can agree on.