12 shot dead at movie theater

[the Doctor]

thats true,knives are the prefered choice of gangs in London.Still i feel lucky they dont use guns much,gives me a chance of running away

 

[BadMoon]

thats true,knives are the prefered choice of gangs in London.Still i feel lucky they dont use guns much,gives me a chance of running away

You should ban knives in your country. ____ buttering your pastries at tea time. No one should be allowed to have them considering the gangs in London use them.

 

[King Darkness]

Yea, in the other countries they just stab, strangle, poison and beat people to death.

We Americans like to use guns.

Efficent killing. Thats what Americans do.

 

[EVILFACE]

Standing around waiting for someone to die?

Ain't nobody got time for that.

 

[the Doctor]

You should ban knives in your country. ____ buttering your pastries at tea time. No one should be allowed to have them considering the gangs in London use them.

Well,the government banned curved swords because a nut ran amock with a samuria sword so anythings possible over here

 

[devilof76]

You can't decide which food to like, period. Taste can be developed, but it's not a choice you make. The development comes from the food you eat which is the food of your culture/the one you grow up with. If I grow up eating burgers and french fries, it's logical that in most cases I would enjoy this food because I've developed a taste for it. Someone who's never eaten it might not enjoy it or perhaps they can develop a taste to enjoy it in the future. I know I hated eating mushrooms but not anymore. It wasn't my choice that I would suddenly like eating that.

You're courting a massive, convoluted red herring here.

If you have come to the conclusion that eating meat is atrocious, and you have integrated it to the deepest levels of your psyche, then the taste of meat is going to cause revulsion in you. That is the consequence of an accumulation of choices. The cheeseburger you loved as a child will taste the same, but it will not bring you pleasure.

Reaction to stimuli is emotional, and emotions are the result of the choices you make and the ideas you accept. If you do not pay attention to those processes, do not discriminate between ideas, and allow whatever emotional content to develop that happens to develop, I'm sure it will appear as though you had nothing to do with it. In truth, your default is what created your emotional state. You permitted your soul to be molded by others.

No it's not a choice. For an example, it's not my choice that a wound on my body should heal itself. Or it's not my choice to believe in the specific religion that my parents conditioned me to believe in (luckily they didn't do so).

The content of your mind and the functions of your anatomy are two completely different categories. The latter is not even a conscious action, and is not up for consideration when arguing for volition or determinism. (But, we are getting to the heart of your fixation on taste.)

You can most certainly resist the religion your family brought you up in. It is 100% your choice to believe or not. There isn't even a perceptual level analog for that (such as the reaction of a tongue to food). That is the highest level of conceptual abstraction and it is nothing like seeing green or tasting mushrooms.

I don't quite follow. The first human? The first animal? The first lifeform? The first person in our life to teach us something?

Whatever it was that imposed the first 'conditioning'. Who conditioned the first conditioner?

 

[BadMoon]

Well,the government banned curved swords because a nut ran amock with a samuria sword so anythings possible over here

If I'm not mistaken the Swiss allow their citizens to arm themselves like crazy. They have some of the lowest shooting related incidents and I believe most were committed with illegal weapons.

So you have a country full of armed citizens and a low number of murders committed by firearms. Go figure.

This is a city called Kennesaw in Georgia. Their crime rate dropped by 50% after they made this law in the 80's. It continues to have one of the lowest crime rates in the US. Again, go figure.

a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.
(b)Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.

 

[the Doctor]

If I'm not mistaken the Swiss allow their citizens to arm themselves like crazy. They have some of the lowest shooting related incidents and I believe most were committed with illegal weapons.

So you have a country full of armed citizens and a low number of murders committed by firearms. Go figure.

This is a city called Kennesaw in Georgia. Their crime rate dropped by 50% after they made this law in the 80's. It continues to have one of the lowest crime rates in the US. Again, go figure.

interesting!

all i can say is if the UK had the same relaxed laws on owning a gun our stats on gun crime/murder would be as high as it is in the U.S.

so i'm greatful that our thug have less powerful weapons to use.

 

[wofford29]

I'm in Kennesaw. Great area.

 

[csi]

Because your life experience has shaped you this way. But, an extreme example, if someone taught you to steal since you were young you wouldn't have the opinion you have now. Agree?

ahh great, Dracula bringing his blame society nonsense into this thread too

Anyone surprised that the news and media are isolating the fact that yes this is a shooting, 12 dead, but they are not mentioning the setting that much, disregarding that this happened during a screening of TDKRS.

not sure what news media your watching/listening to/reading but many of them have tried to make the connection to the TDKRS movies. Not sure what your point is, are you trying to associate the Batman movies with people going nuts and killing people? There seems to have been a lot more of these types of attacks at schools in recent years, Virginia Tec, Columbine, etc. Should we make the connection that schools lead people to go nuts and kill other people

and here are the actual Homicide rates for the world. Notice the US doesn't make the top 25

https://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita.

# 1 Turkey: 184.053 per 1 million people
# 2 Belarus: 100.35 per 1 million people
# 3 Lithuania: 81.84 per 1 million people
# 4 Albania: 80.637 per 1 million people
# 5 Estonia: 79.043 per 1 million people
# 6 Ukraine: 47.841 per 1 million people
# 7 Turkmenistan: 45.335 per 1 million people
# 8 Latvia: 44.17 per 1 million people
# 9 Croatia: 42.59 per 1 million people
# 10 Romania: 39.226 per 1 million people
# 11 Tajikistan: 33.824 per 1 million people
# 12 Finland: 32.73 per 1 million people
# 13 Slovenia: 22.027 per 1 million people
# 14 Bulgaria: 20.522 per 1 million people
# 15 Hungary: 19.391 per 1 million people
# 16 Sweden: 18.02 per 1 million people
# 17 Belgium: 17.929 per 1 million people
# 18 Australia: 17.007 per 1 million people
# 19 Portugal: 15.298 per 1 million people
# 20 Switzerland: 13.169 per 1 million people
# 21 Italy: 12.259 per 1 million people
# 22 Slovakia: 10.957 per 1 million people
# 23 Poland: 9.813 per 1 million people
# 24 Denmark: 9.395 per 1 million people
# 25 Netherlands: 8.674 per 1 million people

Finland #12
Australia #35

and lets not forget how incredibly skewed your statistics are considering the fact that countries like Germany, Spain, England, and Whales aren't even the size of one of our largest States, let alone our entire country

 

[BadMoon]

I'm in Kennesaw. Great area.

 

[King Darkness]

and here are the actual Homicide rates for the world. Notice the US doesn't make the top 25

https://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita.

# 1 Turkey: 184.053 per 1 million people
# 2 Belarus: 100.35 per 1 million people
# 3 Lithuania: 81.84 per 1 million people
# 4 Albania: 80.637 per 1 million people
# 5 Estonia: 79.043 per 1 million people
# 6 Ukraine: 47.841 per 1 million people
# 7 Turkmenistan: 45.335 per 1 million people
# 8 Latvia: 44.17 per 1 million people
# 9 Croatia: 42.59 per 1 million people
# 10 Romania: 39.226 per 1 million people
# 11 Tajikistan: 33.824 per 1 million people
# 12 Finland: 32.73 per 1 million people
# 13 Slovenia: 22.027 per 1 million people
# 14 Bulgaria: 20.522 per 1 million people
# 15 Hungary: 19.391 per 1 million people
# 16 Sweden: 18.02 per 1 million people
# 17 Belgium: 17.929 per 1 million people
# 18 Australia: 17.007 per 1 million people
# 19 Portugal: 15.298 per 1 million people
# 20 Switzerland: 13.169 per 1 million people
# 21 Italy: 12.259 per 1 million people
# 22 Slovakia: 10.957 per 1 million people
# 23 Poland: 9.813 per 1 million people
# 24 Denmark: 9.395 per 1 million people
# 25 Netherlands: 8.674 per 1 million people

Finland #12
Australia #35

and lets not forget how incredibly skewed your statistics are considering the fact that countries like Germany, Spain, England, and Whales aren't even the size of one of our largest States, let alone our entire country

Not even in the top ten

Not as efficent as I thought.

Stupid America.

 

[EVILFACE]

Looks like we need to drop some crates full of guns in Floriduh.

 

[devilof76]

Not even in the top ten

Not as efficent as I thought.

Stupid America.

Americans are dumb. It's a law in Europe.

 

[BadMoon]

Looks like we need to drop some crates full of guns in Floriduh.

Might as well. We give them to every other damn country for free.

 

[Deckard]

Not even in the top ten

Not as efficent as I thought.

Stupid America.

Pfft, you can't even spell 'Merica correctly.

 

[csi]

 

[ProgMatinee]

I think everyone acknowledges that. But again, where do we go then? I guess we just wait for the next one and then we all sit around and debate how crazy he was.

IMO the society, while not responsible for the actions, is slowly making it easier and more desirable for someone to CHOOSE that course of action.

Is it possible to turn the tide so that fewer people want to do it?

I completely agree that parenting is an obvious answer. Is it possible to turn the tide back toward good parenting?

 

[devilof76]

Yeah. Get out of people's homes, get out of their heads, get out of their bank accounts and their businesses. Let them live as though their lives belong to them, and they'll stop feeling like they have no control to such an insane degree that they hold all of us accountable, unleashing indiscriminate death in exchange for the suffering they think we caused.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Yeah. Get out of people's homes, get out of their heads, get out of their bank accounts and their businesses. Let them live as though their lives belong to them, and they'll stop feeling like they have no control to such an insane degree that they hold all of us accountable, unleashing indiscriminate death in exchange for the suffering they think we caused.

Very well said actually.