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[CelticPredator]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

I bet there is not a single person on the MPAA Ratings Board this is from the bible belt.

They suck, true (and bible belters are annoying)... but you're circling he wrong wagon here. It has to do with industry politics, pressure from political special interest groups and most of all $$$, not religious zealotry.

Oh religion does play a part. Watch the doc, This Film Is Not Yet Rated. It's eye opening.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

You're absolutely right! I mixed them up with some of the other "gaggy" horror films. But they're equally tweeny.
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Scream is a parody of horror films.....it's supposed to be funny, as it makes fun of every single horror cliche.

 

[Bezzerkerr]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Scream is a parody of horror films.....it's supposed to be funny, as it makes fun of every single horror cliche.

Scream is a goofest, but everytime it's on, I ALWAYS watch it through to the end. Great movie.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

I think it's an incredibly smart film. If you love horror, you'd be able to catch all the little details put in. All the cliches. But they're all done on purpose.

 

[Bezzerkerr]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

I think it's an incredibly smart film. If you love horror, you'd be able to catch all the little details put in. All the cliches. But they're all done on purpose.

agreed 100%. Many think's it nonsense, but all the little details make it something special.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

The boyfriend sneaking through the window-ANOES. The random pointless jump scares- every horror movie . The "DONT GO IN THERE" moments...

And it's also funny how these teens ALWAYS fight back. Kicking Mr. GhostFace in the face repeatedly.

Naked _____ #45 in any Friday movie would just scream and get offed.

 

[mattman6886]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Given the amount of violence and damage shown in the Sarah Connor Chronicles and that was on broadcast television, again, I'm gonna disagree. Scream and all it's sequels were PG-13. The Grudge, also PG-13. Those of us who grew up in the 80's will continually disagree because we had to put up with horror movies that were given X-ratings and forced to have all the deaths trimmed/cut out for having equal or less violence than what you see on ER or CSI nowadays. Most of the Friday the 13th movies suffered from this.

TV has a different rating system than movies and are much more lenient on the amount of gore they show compared to PG-13 movies. All the Scream movies were rated R. Look at Jaws, for example, which was PG, and tell me that wouldn't have gotten an R today without cutting some scenes, like a guys being bit in half with a fountain of blood pouring out of him. Look at Indy for example. Look at Raiders, or Temple of Doom, which showed head shots with blood dripping out, a heart being ripped out of someone's chest, etc., and then look at Crystal Skull, with basically zero blood, and Indy not firing his gun once, and tell me that the MPAA isn't more strict.

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

TV has a different rating system than movies and are much more lenient on the amount of gore they show compared to PG-13 movies. All the Scream movies were rated R. Look at Jaws, for example, which was PG, and tell me that would'nt have gotten an R today without cutting some scenes, like a guys being bit in half with a fountain of blood pouring out of him. Look at Indy for example. Look at Raiders, or Temple of Doom, which showed head shots with blood dripping out, a heart being ripped out of someone's chest, etc., and then look at Crystal Skull, with basically zero blood, and Indy not firing his gun once, and tell me that the MPAA isn't more strict.

JAWS predated the PG-13 rating and Temple of Doom was the reason the Ratings board came up with PG-13 so that's kinda a failed argument there. As for KOTCS, that was Speilberg and his incessant need to be anti-violent and had nothing at all to do with the ratings board. As to television, being widely more accessible to the underage, you would think they would have stricter standards. After all, one only has to push a button to watch TV vs. sneaking past theatre staff to attend a PG-13 film.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

I know Jaws would be R today. Other then Casino Royale, most PG-13 movies are tame as hell.

Raiders would be a hard R. Easily.

 

[mattman6886]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

JAWS predated the PG-13 rating and Temple of Doom was the reason the Ratings board came up with PG-13 so that's kinda a failed argument there.

I know that, but I'm sayin that those movies wouldn't be released with PG or PG-13 rating today without some editing or at least some deliberating with the ratings board.

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

I know that, but I'm sayin that those movies wouldn't be released with PG or PG-13 rating today without some editing or at least some deliberating with the ratings board.

Jaws, absolutely. TOD would still nab a PG-13. And again, trimming the F-bombs, T2 would easily score one as well. With them removed I don't see the film being any darker than TDK or T:S (lighter, in fact, than T:S).

 

[DiFabio]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Jaws, absolutely. TOD would still nab a PG-13. And again, trimming the F-bombs, T2 would easily score one as well. With them removed I don't see the film being any darker than TDK or T:S (lighter, in fact, than T:S).

Yeah I agree with this. And really, Sarah is the only one that spouts the F-bomb. I don't recall anyone else using as many as her. I know John says it once "____ you, she's a priority to me!" and then one of the jocks. I can't really think of anything else that would warrant the R rating except maybe the arm blade through Todd Voights throat but even that is a little stylized and not as graphic.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

T2 for sure. Jaws, not a chance. ToD....I would say yes. Raiders is much more violent.

 

[Khev]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Jaws, absolutely. TOD would still nab a PG-13. And again, trimming the F-bombs, T2 would easily score one as well. With them removed I don't see the film being any darker than TDK or T:S (lighter, in fact, than T:S).

Yep. Rise of Cobra was practically aimed toward kids and Cover Girl dies about as violently as anyone in T2. That's in addition to one guy's face dissolving on screen, Destro's head burning to a crisp, other heads exploding, eyes being punctured, etc.

 

[dandy warhol]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

JAWS predated the PG-13 rating and Temple of Doom was the reason the Ratings board came up with PG-13 so that's kinda a failed argument there. As for KOTCS, that was Speilberg and his incessant need to be anti-violent and had nothing at all to do with the ratings board. As to television, being widely more accessible to the underage, you would think they would have stricter standards. After all, one only has to push a button to watch TV vs. sneaking past theatre staff to attend a PG-13 film.

you would think but you would be wrong. the mpaa has nothing to do with ratings for tv. nada.

poltergeist was the reason for pg 13 (spielberg had to campaign to get it a pg) but temple of doom made headlines for getting it.

you are also forgetting a very important factor here. tone. a movies general tone has alot to do with how it gets rated. there will be blood has almost no blood whatsoever but recieved an R and many horror films aimed at teens have some softcore gore but get a pass to pg 13. the reason is tone. well that and $$$. and the mpaa is much more powerful and touchy today than at any point in its entire history.

having said that, drop the language and a few trims here and there and t2 would likely get a pg 13 today.

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

you would think but you would be wrong. the mpaa has nothing to do with ratings for tv. nada.

poltergeist was the reason for pg 13 (spielberg had to campaign to get it a pg) but temple of doom made headlines for getting it.

you are also forgetting a very important factor here. tone. a movies general tone has alot to do with how it gets rated. there will be blood has almost no blood whatsoever but recieved an R and many horror films aimed at teens have some softcore gore but get a pass to pg 13. the reason is tone. well that and $$$. and the mpaa is much more powerful and touchy today than at any point in its entire history.

having said that, drop the language and a few trims here and there and t2 would likely get a pg 13 today.

WASN'T TALKING ABOUT TV!!!!!!

I'd suggest going back a few pages and reading up on a topic before jumping into a discussion and winding up eating your own toejam footballs. I was using television as an example of how things have loosened nowadays. The bolded part of your quote was the point I've been making for the past 4 pages.

 

[Devil_666]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Pffft.. reading is for losers. Real pimps just jump right into a debate and lay the smack down with opinions. Take your ass back to the library chief.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Shut up Dev. Obama is not going to get rid of the MPAA. Stop being a troll and calling people Ass Libraries.

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Pffft.. reading is for losers. Real pimps just jump right into a debate and lay the smack down with opinions. Take your ass back to the library chief.

Not a valid defense for ignorance.

 

[FLOSI]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Went with my mom, dad and brother. Back then we would make family nights out of going to the movies and I can still remember seeing T2 like it was yesterday. A classic from day 1.