20 years . . .

[thenammagazine]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

NO WAY. With the amount of blood and f-bombs in it, there is no way this film would be PG-13 today. Now if you said that if it came out today, they would cut it for a PG-13, that I'd believe. I never understand when people say an R rated movie twenty or so years ago would be PG-13 today when if anything they are more strict with the content they put in PG-13 films.

Calling BS on that. The horror industry has plenty of gore and horror elements, dark elements, etc. (Scream, Grudge, etc.), and for a while was predominantly PG-13. So I'd say remove the F-bombs and absolutely, it'd get a PG-13 rating.

 

[Voorhees27]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Calling BS on that. The horror industry has plenty of gore and horror elements, dark elements, etc. (Scream, Grudge, etc.), and for a while was predominantly PG-13. So I'd say remove the F-bombs and absolutely, it'd get a PG-13 rating.

I'd have to agree with nam here. The ratings board has changed drastically over the years so theres always a way to maintain the content of the film while watering it down some to pass the score.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

They are so....SO more strict today then they were in the 80's. 90's....? Yeah they started hitting our levels.

But the 70's-80's? Look at Raiders! Shots in the face, melting face, bloody violence...Jaws? Kids getting eaten, Quinns death,...ect. Both those got a PG. I dare them to even pass the PG-13 mark.

What makes films R today is insane. Smoke a cig? Rated R. (Avatar won because Cameron can pay those ____ers off) A certin number of times you hump? Rated R. Gay sex? = NC-17.

The MPAA is just a bunch of super conservative (you know the type, dont take a offense), hard core bible belt morons. I hate them. They can ruin movies if they chose too.


As for Terminator 2? I dont know if it would be PG-13...it has some very dark themes in it. And they do, honestly rate films on the tone. They gave Max Payne an R for the way it looked.

 

[cedric72]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

6 times for me way back when, still one of the best.

 

[cedric72]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

seriously? like, literally the best movie ever made compared to every movie ever?
or just the ones youve seen? either way, you've seen a lot of ____ty movies to want to say that.


anyway, i saw T2 in the theaters when i was a kid and loved it.
then i grew up and now it's almost unwatchable.
i remember T1 being somewhat better. or at least T1 didn't have as many plot holes.

This guy needs to visit Pescadero mental institution.

 

[cedric72]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

nah, i don't hate it. i've just seen other movies that aren't in the Terminator franchise.

i didn't forget Aliens, it's fun action pseudo-scifi by itself but it's a lousy sequel.
T2 is definitely a better sequel than that.

that's what i meant about perspective. anyway, whatever floats your boat.

Yep, off to Pescadero you go!

 

[DinoLast]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Calling BS on that. The horror industry has plenty of gore and horror elements, dark elements, etc. (Scream, Grudge, etc.), and for a while was predominantly PG-13. So I'd say remove the F-bombs and absolutely, it'd get a PG-13 rating.

The finger through the eye would have to go or be changed. The blade through the head would have to go or be changed. The knife going in the shoulder in the Bar Room brawl would definitely have to go, because the homage of that scene was cut from salvation for it to get a PG 13, which was only put back in the stupid R rated 3 min extra version

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

They are so....SO more strict today then they were in the 80's. 90's....? Yeah they started hitting our levels.

But the 70's-80's? Look at Raiders! Shots in the face, melting face, bloody violence...Jaws? Kids getting eaten, Quinns death,...ect. Both those got a PG. I dare them to even pass the PG-13 mark.

What makes films R today is insane. Smoke a cig? Rated R. (Avatar won because Cameron can pay those ____ers off) A certin number of times you hump? Rated R. Gay sex? = NC-17.

The MPAA is just a bunch of super conservative (you know the type, dont take a offense), hard core bible belt morons. I hate them. They can ruin movies if they chose too.


As for Terminator 2? I dont know if it would be PG-13...it has some very dark themes in it. And they do, honestly rate films on the tone. They gave Max Payne an R for the way it looked.

Given the amount of violence and damage shown in the Sarah Connor Chronicles and that was on broadcast television, again, I'm gonna disagree. Scream and all it's sequels were PG-13. The Grudge, also PG-13. Those of us who grew up in the 80's will continually disagree because we had to put up with horror movies that were given X-ratings and forced to have all the deaths trimmed/cut out for having equal or less violence than what you see on ER or CSI nowadays. Most of the Friday the 13th movies suffered from this.

The finger through the eye would have to go or be changed. The blade through the head would have to go or be changed. The knife going in the shoulder in the Bar Room brawl would definitely have to go, because the homage of that scene was cut from salvation for it to get a PG 13, which was only put back in the stupid R rated 3 min extra version

Wrong. Finger through the eye didn't show it happening (as in piercing the eyeball). Blade through the head was the same deal, that just showed the end result. Bar room brawl was easily PG-13. You guys are silly. T2 has been shown on TV already and all of those scenes were included. As I said above, look at the gore you see on ER or CSI. Plus most evening television shows are TV-14. The F-bombs are the only things keeping it from a PG-13 rating.

 

[Marvelito]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Ditched school and went and saw the 1st showing on opening day at the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood. Awesome! Went back and saw it a couple more times. Bought it on VHS, Laserdisc, DVD twice and so far once on Blu-Ray.

 

[dcflake]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

There seems to be a bit of T1 fanboyism in this forum.

I guess people here like T1 more because it's more of a horror movie than an action movie which has always turned me off it. I like it as an action movie but looking back it's a little weak to todays standard. I know people are gonna go on about it makes it up in atomosphere and setting. 19 years old and T2's action is still amazing.

 

[IrishJedi]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

The MPAA is just a bunch of super conservative (you know the type, dont take a offense), hard core bible belt morons. I hate them.

I bet there is not a single person on the MPAA Ratings Board this is from the bible belt.

They suck, true (and bible belters are annoying)... but you're circling he wrong wagon here. It has to do with industry politics, pressure from political special interest groups and most of all $$$, not religious zealotry.

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

There seems to be a bit of T1 fanboyism in this forum.

I guess people here like T1 more because it's more of a horror movie than an action movie which has always turned me off it. I like it as an action movie but looking back it's a little weak to todays standard. I know people are gonna go on about it makes it up in atomosphere and setting. 19 years old and T2's action is still amazing.

Coming from a T2 fanboy that means nothing.

 

[Darth Madden]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

I like them both. T1 great sci-fi flick. T2 great summer blockbuster action flick.

 

[Ven]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

great movie... its as old as I am... haha.. i remember waking up on sunday mornings and catching it on fox or something... amazing experince.

 

[Platty]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

My favourite film.

It's one of those you can watch again, again and again. I never get bored of it. Every scene is a classic or at least memorable. Like a 12 track album with 12 brilliant songs on it. Don't see it much these days. "They don't make them like that anymore" as they say. It has Arnie at his peak as well in my opinion. Just a top, top film. Can't believe it's 20 years old near enough!

Also, I like how everything looks blue.

 

[dcflake]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Coming from a T2 fanboy that means nothing.

Guitly as charged.

 

[Khev]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Calling BS on that. The horror industry has plenty of gore and horror elements, dark elements, etc. (Scream, Grudge, etc.), and for a while was predominantly PG-13. So I'd say remove the F-bombs and absolutely, it'd get a PG-13 rating.

The Scream films were rated R but otherwise I agree with you 100%.

 

[Ash Housewares]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

I never got to see it at the Cinema. Saw it a couple of years later. My cousin recorded both movies off of Sky and I watched T2 and then T1 and then T2 again right after. I remember it so vividly. I was about 9 and it was the most amazing spectacle I'd ever seen and still is to this day.

 

[DinoLast]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

Wrong. Finger through the eye didn't show it happening (as in piercing the eyeball). Blade through the head was the same deal, that just showed the end result. Bar room brawl was easily PG-13. You guys are silly. T2 has been shown on TV already and all of those scenes were included. As I said above, look at the gore you see on ER or CSI. Plus most evening television shows are TV-14. The F-bombs are the only things keeping it from a PG-13 rating.

It shows it being stuck in his eye for quite a long time. I think they could get away with the scenes if the blood is taken out.
If the Bar room brawl is OK, why was the screwdriver in the shoulder cut from Salvation to get a PG-13 ? The Knife in the shoulder was actually cut from the UK version of T2 VHS, so it could get a 15.
It was all put back in a few years later, but kept it's 15 cert

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: 19 years . . . today.

The Scream films were rated R but otherwise I agree with you 100%.

You're absolutely right! I mixed them up with some of the other "gaggy" horror films. But they're equally tweeny.

It shows it being stuck in his eye for quite a long time. I think they could get away with the scenes if the blood is taken out.
If the Bar room brawl is OK, why was the screwdriver in the shoulder cut from Salvation to get a PG-13 ? The Knife in the shoulder was actually cut from the UK version of T2 VHS, so it could get a 15.
It was all put back in a few years later, but kept it's 15 cert

They don't show it piercing his eye. They play it off like all the numerous sword gags of old. I don't know about the UK but here in the US, the screwdriver was shown on television. I can't vouch for UK censorship (which used to be leaps and bounds looser than our own MPAA), but with Tipper Gore and her bull____ brigade in the 80's, we barely got anything then, and even into the 90's that would be considered "gory." Nowadays, your average episode of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation on broadcast television shows more blood, guts and gore in a 48min show than all of T2 with the deleted scenes thrown back in.