Activision Threatens to Stop Supporting PlayStation 3

[Solidus]

Dreamcast was their best made console that had the best games. I was never a fan of Genesis, 32X, CD, and Saturn.

All there damn attachments causes their downfall...instead of releasing bigger better systems.

The best games? But dude, the Dreamcast's lineup of games was so small. Of course they did release a few good titles like: Soul Calibur, Gundam: Rise from the Ashes, and Resident Evil 2.

The Genesis had some classic games, and I still enjoy playing it to this date. In fact, the Genesis was Sega's longest lasting console on the market. The Shinobi series, Streets of Rage, Sonic, Vectorman, Goldex Axe, etc... all of those bring back a lot of memories for me.

Anyways, this is getting off topic. I'm just relieved that the PS3 has held its own in the current console war. A lot of people were willing to write off the system for good since its release date in 06. But, what they didn't anticipate was the enormous amount of third-party support for the PS3. That being said, I still don't understand what Activision has to gain by ditching all of their PS3 fan base... unless it has something to do with an M$ payoff.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

^^^no, i really think the Activision statement was completely meant to be taken as a hit to Sony so that they would have a price drop. seriously, they do need to drop their price.

 

[Starkiller]

They can't afford a price cut...even a slight $50 one and they would still be loosing millions. They really shot themselves in the foot this round.

 

[Solidus]

They can't afford a price cut...even a slight $50 one and they would still be loosing millions. They really shot themselves in the foot this round.

I too, don't see how a price cut will help Sony. I mean, isn't the PS3 already selling at a loss? Slashing by $50 is really pushing it...

 

[BXCOLLECTOR]

we'll see a price cut when the PS4 comes out

 

[Starkiller]

I too, don't see how a price cut will help Sony. I mean, isn't the PS3 already selling at a loss? Slashing by $50 is really pushing it...

Yea, it makes no sense from any standpoint. They are already loosing their a$$es on it. Anymore would leave them dead.

 

[Devil_666]

You can't compare the PS3 to the N64.

What in the blue hell are you babbling about!? I said:

Nah it's more than that, a lot of 3rd party publishers did the same thing when the N64 was trailing, XBOX, Dreamcast, etc. After awhile it stops making sense to put out games for a system when the profit margin is so small. PS3 is dead last as I said, so the user installed base is smaller than Wii and 360.

Exactly where in that post did you read me comparing PS3 to N64? Actually read things before just reacting and posting yourself.

23 million sold is quite a lot of PS3 floating around the world...

And yet it's still only 3rd best because there's more Nintendo Wii (50.39 million) and XBOX 360 (30.20 million) floating around the world.

 

[plasmid303]

Everybody stop overreacting. The PS3 ain't on its deathbed, and 23 million does not equate to failure.

Back to Activision. My opinion of them has dropped significantly after they merged with Blizzard/Vivendi and canceled their support of games like Ghostbusters, Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena, and Brutal Legend. They didn't want to take the risk of financially backing those original games so instead they push out retreaded, rehashed franchises like Guitar Hero, Call of Duty and Tony Hawk every year. Their CEO Bobby Kotick actually said that it was too risky to publish original games and that Activision's plan was to "exploit" (his word) their popular franchises over and over again.

It would hurt PS3 if Activision left, but I'd rather see more original and innovative games on the platform than yearly repurposed crap from a company with such an arrogant and pompous attitude.

 

[Devil_666]

Everybody stop overreacting. The PS3 ain't on its deathbed...

No one said anything about it being on it's deathbed.

and 23 million does not equate to failure.

Riiiight. It's dead last behind the Wii and XBOX 360 in wordwide sales. Sony's games division posted an operating loss of $1.97 billion in 2007 because of PS3. The PS3 has failed thus far. In a race, anything less than #1 = failure. Sorry to break it to you.

 

[KitFisto]

I still fail to understand the Wii selling so well. IMO it's a piece of crap. I owned one and sold it after I got tired of watching it collect dust.

 

[Solidus]

No one said anything about it being on it's deathbed.



Riiiight. It's dead last behind the Wii and XBOX 360 in wordwide sales. Sony's games division posted an operating loss of $1.97 billion in 2007 because of PS3. The PS3 has failed thus far. In a race, anything less than #1 = failure. Sorry to break it to you.

Failed thus far? It's wrong for you to equate the success of the PS3 in the present, to old statistics in 07'. The PS3 has made great strides since then, and its sales number has progressively inched up toward both the 360 and the Wii.

So, according to your logic, has the 360 failed as well, because it isn't #1?

 

[Solidus]

I still fail to understand the Wii selling so well. IMO it's a piece of crap. I owned one and sold it after I got tired of watching it collect dust.

Personally, I refuse to buy any "current-gen" system, with graphics comparable to the last gen PS2. The Wii is a real hit with casual gamers though.

 

[Devil_666]

I still fail to understand the Wii selling so well. IMO it's a piece of crap. I owned one and sold it after I got tired of watching it collect dust.

Simple: Non-Gamers. No other console has ever been able to get Non-Gamers to play. Hell there's old folks homes and hospitals using Wii for physical therapy.

I've owned/own every home console Nintendo has put out EXCEPT the Wii. I honestly have no desire to have it. None. Just doesn't appeal to me. Even if it were $50 I still wouldn't get one. I bought a 360 for Halo 3.. and if the PS3 comes down to a reasonable price I'll pick that up as well (I wanna play GOW 3). Wii = garbage imho.

Failed thus far? It's wrong for you to equate the success of the PS3 in the present, to old statistics in 07'. The PS3 has made great strides since then, and its sales number has progressively inched up toward both the 360 and the Wii.

What!? "progressively inched up toward both the 360 and the Wii"!? Dude as of March 31, 2009 the worldwide sales figures of each console is:

Nintendo Wii - 50.39 Million
Microsoft Xbox 360 - 30.2 Million
Sony PS3 - 22.73 Million

So, according to your logic, has the 360 failed as well, because it isn't #1?

Um yeah. You think it's a success being #2!? Who won the last console wars? Sony. Who's winning this era? Nintendo. Period.

 

[plasmid303]

No one said anything about it being on it's deathbed.

You're right, no one said it explicitly. Read between the words spoken here and you get the nuances. But I digress.

Riiiight. It's dead last behind the Wii and XBOX 360 in wordwide sales. Sony's games division posted an operating loss of $1.97 billion in 2007 because of PS3. The PS3 has failed thus far. In a race, anything less than #1 = failure. Sorry to break it to you.

Don't be so smug. You're right that Sony's almost $2 billion loss in 2007 but that's always a fluctuating number. Last year it dropped to 1.2 billion and this year it is actually improving ($612 mill loss as of early June)! PS3 unit sales are up this year compared to last year and so is the PSP for that matter. Of course, that's hardly a consolation but 23 million in the first 2-3 years isn't anything to scoff at especially considering the gap in release date between the 360 and the PS3. This is a ten-year lifespan we're looking at.

The hardware manufacturers race never ends, especially in the gaming industry. Third place is hardly a death knell.

 

[Solidus]

Simple: Non-Gamers. No other console has ever been able to get Non-Gamers to play. Hell there's old folks homes and hospitals using Wii for physical therapy.

I've owned/own every home console Nintendo has put out EXCEPT the Wii. I honestly have no desire to have it. None. Just doesn't appeal to me. Even if it were $50 I still wouldn't get one. I bought a 360 for Halo 3.. and if the PS3 comes down to a reasonable price I'll pick that up as well (I wanna play GOW 3). Wii = garbage imho.

Yeah, can you imagine that? Even my aunt, who has never touched a videogame console in her life, owns a Wii .

The Wii's on a class of its own - so much so, that I don't believe we can classify it as a traditional videogame system.

 

[Devil_666]

Don't be so smug. You're right that Sony's almost $2 billion loss in 2007 but that's always a fluctuating number. Last year it dropped to 1.2 billion and this year it is actually improving ($612 mill loss as of early June)! PS3 unit sales are up this year compared to last year and so is the PSP for that matter.

I'm sorry man but I seriously don't understand that logic. Because the PS3 is losing LESS money per year that = good somehow, in some Bizarro type of sense!? All that loss still equals LOSS. So even when the PS3 "stops" losing money it still has to recoup all that previous loss before it actually posts a real profit. What is it? Close to 5 Billion!? Good luck with that Sony.

 

[Deckard]

I'm sorry man but I seriously don't understand that logic. Because the PS3 is losing LESS money per year that = good somehow, in some Bizarro type of sense!? All that loss still equals LOSS. So even when the PS3 "stops" losing money it still has to recoup all that previous loss before it actually posts a real profit. What is it? Close to 5 Billion!? Good luck with that Sony.

I have to agree, even if they turn it around next year (2010), and start making money, it would take like 5 years to make back the money they already lost, by then they'll have to compete with that new Xbox thing, and any other new systems. PS3 is overall a failure.

You can't fail 3 semesters and still pass because you brought your grades up to a C your 4th.

And trash talk Activision all you want, but if PS3 owners can't buy the new Call of Duty, thats just gonna hurt Sony alot more each november.

 

[plasmid303]

I'm sorry man but I seriously don't understand that logic. Because the PS3 is losing LESS money per year that = good somehow, in some Bizarro type of sense!? All that loss still equals LOSS. So even when the PS3 "stops" losing money it still has to recoup all that previous loss before it actually posts a real profit. What is it? Close to 5 Billion!? Good luck with that Sony.

Yes, but that's the reality most hardware manufacturers have to face these days.

Microsoft lost a total of $4 billion on the original Xbox even though that console sold more than Nintendo's Gamecube.

Microsoft had been losing money on the 360 until only recently. Do you remember in 2007 when they reported that expanding the 360's warranty to 3 years (to cover the enormous 360 failure rates) would cost them over $1.15 billion dollars? That and the pre-existing failure rates of the console was reported by Microsoft to have risen to 30 percent! That cost them a pretty penny.

The PS3 is in a hard place. It has to shoulder the high price tag and is the one console in this generation to simultaneously usher in high-definition discs and format. The PS2 only started making a profit as of 2006 and during the first few years it was losing a copious amount of money per unit sold. It's a different time now, prospects are grim around every corner, but I think history will repeat itself when we get to the latter half of the PS3's lifespan.

 

[blue_rogue]

I couldn't care less if Activision stops making games for the PS3. I haven't bought an Activision game since Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3.

 

[Devil_666]

Yes, but that's the reality most hardware manufacturers have to face these days.

Unless they're named Nintendo. Because Nintendo actually make a profit off of every console sold.