Activision Threatens to Stop Supporting PlayStation 3

[plasmid303]

Unless they're named Nintendo. Because Nintendo actually make a profit off of every console sold.

Right, but the Wii is an anomaly. I'd be surprised if they could capture that lightning in a bottle the next time around.

I like my Wii, but I haven't played a game on it in about...a year I think.

 

[Starkiller]

And yet it's still only 3rd best because there's more Nintendo Wii (50.39 million) and XBOX 360 (30.20 million) floating around the world.[/QUOTE]

Yea, the 360 selling only 7 million more isn't really gasp worthy.

 

[Devil_666]

Right, but the Wii is an anomaly. I'd be surprised if they could capture that lightning in a bottle the next time around.

I like my Wii, but I haven't played a game on it in about...a year I think.

Then the anomaly is a reaccuring one because EVERY console/handheld system Nintendo has ever put out has turned a profit from each unit sold.

Yea, the 360 selling only 7 million more isn't really gasp worthy.

But the Wii selling over 25 million more is.

 

[plasmid303]

Then the anomaly is a reaccuring one because EVERY console/handheld system Nintendo has ever put out has turned a profit from each unit sold.



But the Wii selling over 25 million more is.

Well, I mean by sheer numbers. Gamecube only sold 22 mill total in its entire lifespan.

 

[Devil_666]

Well, I mean by sheer numbers. Gamecube only sold 22 mill total in its entire lifespan.

Well we were talking about hardware sales and losses per each unit sold. You said all hardware manufacturers have to face losses with each unit sold and I said Nintendo doesn't and never has. If you're talking about sheer numbers now suddenly, then I would say Sony's PS2 numbers are an anomaly as well.

 

[plasmid303]

Well we were talking about hardware sales and losses per each unit sold. You said all hardware manufacturers have to face losses with each unit sold and I said Nintendo doesn't and never has. If you're talking about sheer numbers now suddenly, then I would say Sony's PS2 numbers are an anomaly as well.

Well, the sheer numbers and per unit sales go hand in hand. With the rapidity of sales and the apparent unsatiable demand, Nintendo's profits soared 80% in 2007-08, which is an anomaly when compared to the previous patterns with their platform predecessors, which never reached that ceiling. Not even close. Maybe the DS, but that platform had the luxury of design alterations and lower price tag.

 

[Solidus]

What!? "progressively inched up toward both the 360 and the Wii"!? Dude as of March 31, 2009 the worldwide sales figures of each console is:

Nintendo Wii - 50.39 Million
Microsoft Xbox 360 - 30.2 Million
Sony PS3 - 22.73 Million



Um yeah. You think it's a success being #2!? Who won the last console wars? Sony. Who's winning this era? Nintendo. Period.

Granted that Microsoft has a one year head start on the PS3, there's only a mere 8 million sales separation between the units sold of PS3s to X-Box 360s. The PS3 has gained a lot of ground, and many analysts in the industry are predicting that the PS3 will outsell the 360 toward the end of this console generation

And what's your point exactly? It doesn't really matter if Nintendo is "winning" in this generation. Haven't we already agreed that the Wii isn't a typical gaming machine? Nintendo's customer base is completely different from either Sony's or Microsoft's. While the 360 and PS3 are focused on the true hardcore gamers, the Wii is focused on attracting casual gamers (and non-gamers). That being said, to directly compare the Wii to either the 360 or the PS3, is like comparing apples to oranges.

 

[Devil_666]

Well, the sheer numbers and per unit sales go hand in hand.

Um No. They don't. And now I see the problem: we're talking about 2 different things.

Per unit sale profit = How much the console is sold for as opposed to how much all the parts/cost of it to make. The difference equals the profit.

Sony and Microsoft lose money. Ninten-Don't.

Every single console Nintendo puts out loses zip per each unit sold. How much that console goes on to sell in the end is irrelevant to that fact. because in the end, they still don't lose any money from each unit sold.

While Microsoft and Sony have experienced losses producing their consoles in the hopes of making a long-term profit on software sales, Nintendo reportedly has optimized production costs to obtain a significant profit margin with each Wii unit sold. On September 17, 2007, the Financial Times reported that this direct profit per Wii sold may vary from $13 in Japan to $49 in the United States and $79 in Europe. On December 2, 2008, Forbes reported that Nintendo makes a $6 operating profit per Wii unit sold.

Nintendo always makes money on their hardware unlike everyone else. That's why I keep saying Sony AND Microsoft will never recoup their loss on hardware i.e. their consoles will never be "profitable". Nintendo makes money with every unit sold because they sell their consoles for more than they cost to manufacture.

Hopefully this clears things up.

And what's your point exactly? It doesn't really matter if Nintendo is "winning" in this generation. Haven't we already agreed that the Wii isn't a typical gaming machine? Nintendo's customer base is completely different from either Sony's or Microsoft's. While the 360 and PS3 are focused on the true hardcore gamers, the Wii is focused on attracting casual gamers (and non-gamers). That being said, to directly compare the Wii to either the 360 or the PS3, is like comparing apples to oranges.

What is your point exactly!? The target audience is irrelevant. There's 3 consoles in this current console race. Wii is #1, Xbox 360 is #2 and PS3 is #3. Last place. You're starting to sound like those movies that aren't #1 at the box office so they try to spin it like "The #1 Comedy in America".

And no we haven't agreed that the Wii isn't a typical gaming machine. Because it IS a typical gaming machine. More so than the 360 and PS3 combined because it plays GAMES. First and foremost. Doesn't have all the bells and whistles those other machines have to pull in people who are only interested in that i.e. HD and Blu Ray players. Apples and Oranges!? Are you serious? They're all videogame consoles. If you choose to seperate them strictly by target audience then it's obvious you're doing that to proclaim a half assed victory for Sony or Microsoft. But in reality.. that's just not true. They're all apples.. or they're all oranges. Whatever fruit you prefer.

 

[plasmid303]

Um No. They don't. And now I see the problem: we're talking about 2 different things.

Per unit sale profit = How much the console is sold for as opposed to how much all the parts/cost of it to make. The difference equals the profit.

Sony and Microsoft lose money. Ninten-Don't.

Every single console Nintendo puts out loses zip per each unit sold. How much that console goes on to sell in the end is irrelevant to that fact. because in the end, they still don't lose any money from each unit sold.



Nintendo always makes money on their hardware unlike everyone else. That's why I keep saying Sony AND Microsoft will never recoup their loss on hardware i.e. their consoles will never be "profitable". Nintendo makes money with every unit sold because they sell their consoles for more than they cost to manufacture.

Hopefully this clears things up.

Ah okay things got a bit mixed up in our back-n-forth.

But still, the Wii is an anomaly in the way that it fits into the global cultural zeitgeist. It's a sales phenomenon is what I meant. But I guess I just deviated too sharply from our previous topic. You don't have to post the numbers, I already know how much money Nintendo makes per Wii against Msoft and Sony's product. And now we've gone spectacularly off-topic.

Screw you, Activision.

 

[Solidus]

Ah okay things got a bit mixed up in our back-n-forth.

But still, the Wii is an anomaly in the way that it fits into the global cultural zeitgeist. It's a sales phenomenon is what I meant. But I guess I just deviated too sharply from our previous topic. You don't have to post the numbers, I already know how much money Nintendo makes per Wii against Msoft and Sony's product. And now we've gone spectacularly off-topic.

Screw you, Activision.

Correction, I think Activision has screwed themselves (for the points that I stated before). But if they do leave Sony, I won't have a problem playing COD on my PC.

 

[DinoLast]

This has to be the dumbest thing I have seen from a CEO ever.
Basically he is threatening to lose a large amout of the profit to made from future titles of Guitar Hero and COD.

 

[Starkiller]

He's talking out of his ass.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

I still fail to understand the Wii selling so well. IMO it's a piece of crap. I owned one and sold it after I got tired of watching it collect dust.

i've done this twice. i was one of the crazies that ran out and bought it when it first launched...then after a couple months the coolness ran out. then a couple more months went by and i said i need something that performs better. then i bought it again last year and just resold it two weeks ago after going about 5 months without turning it on once.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Correction, I think Activision has screwed themselves (for the points that I stated before). But if they do leave Sony, I won't have a problem playing COD on my PC.

this is probably true, but i think the statement was made in hopes of other developers to follow suit and threaten to drop PS3 support unless a price drop happens.

 

[MooMooEgg]

Off topic, but hairlesswookie: your Awesome Donnie Yen video was removed due to terms of use violation.

 

[Solidus]

Off topic, but hairlesswookie: your Awesome Donnie Yen video was removed due to terms of use violation.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[FDBMath]

I don't know, but isn't there a difference between the Asian and North American (US) markets in terms of which console (between the 360 and PS3) is doing well? If there are far more PS3's is Asia and far mroe 360's in the US, perhaps Activision's games aren't selling as well in Asia. Maybe they figure the profit they turn from US PS3 games isn't enough to justify continuing to support the platform. If they are selling substantially more games in the US for the 360, maybe they feel they can focus on developing more games for it and get more profits. Or maybe they figur cutting the people from the development teams that create the ports for the PS3 will save them $$ in the long run. Who knows?

All I care is that I get good games for my 360 from whoever is going to develop and/or publish them.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Off topic, but hairlesswookie: your Awesome Donnie Yen video was removed due to terms of use violation.

lol...its fixed now. i just checked it last week too. one of my favorite movies.

 

[Trustey]

What a moron, so they will throw away the profit made off Sony because its not as much or as easy profit they make from Microsoft or Nintendo? I bet he was "influenced" to say that, why the need for such a derogatory public statement about Sony? So what if they have to work harder for the money on that platform, its still making money and he's still got a job he shouldnt be such an ungrateful whiny ^^^^^. No CEO in his right mind throws away profit period, anyway its not him staying up all night coding. These are words spoken by someone oblivious to the fact his employees are actual people who exist and need jobs, he needs a reality check.

 

[THX-182]

Yeah because we all know CEO's know nothing about business and making money. They just fell into the job. The higher ups at Activision don't know what they are doing. They are just winging it...