ADA CHAN group comission: Chris Reeve

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When I started this thread, it was in addition to the one started on her own forum. Turns out, with Les offering his own and the lack of members on her forum, the number for a commission was never reached. As a consequence, she sculpted him on her own. That's really too bad since I could have provided plenty of reference pics.
As for the sideshots, you just have to peruse her site to realize she often discards them. That's a strange thing... How can you achieve a likeness without that? A face is a sum of many intricate details. Often, an expression is enough to ruin a likeness, so the total absence of sideshots reference is a sure sign of failure...
Especially with Reeves. his nose is probably one of his main remarkable feature, and here, she totally missed that!
 
Well ... She can draw and paint really well.... (working in 2D)
thats why she often disregard side view references....

A number of her sculpts if you look front on... you see 65~70% likeness... sideview... drop down to 20~30%.

To sum it up...
Shes a business oriented 1/6th scale head sculptor.. she lacks passion in action figures so you cant really blame her for not hitting the target.
 
Yes we can. We have paid her to sculpt a likeness not a 60% lookalike.
 
Yes we can. We have paid her to sculpt a likeness not a 60% lookalike.

No you cant!!! :rotfl joking

I actually did commission her to make a head.... the head was off so i told her to go back and fix here and there....I cant remember the exact words in email but we had to go through this procedure two times and she said it's $200 sculpture she shouldnt be wasting fixing it up that much... I got the impression of i have many other clients waiting for me to finish some heads no time to waste on you sort of thing...and so much for OOAK commissioned head sculpt when you pay $200 for it and she sells copies to others for $25.... :rolleyes:
 
shes hit some on the head great. I have always been amazed by her Edward Norton head.
Then theres others which I can't even identify and then they turn out to be like Hollywood actors. I think if I was ever going to pay the full price on my own for a commission I would use someone off this board I can speak too regular and have seen there past and present work regular enough to feel safe.
 
Just curious - how many rounds of revisions did you have to go through with her before arriving at an acceptable final version?

From talking to other members on this board, everyone has a different working relationship with her, mostly bad it seems.

I genuinely feel I had a very good one comparatively, as far as our working relationship on sculpts, though, I had to work at it and she seemed to miss (disregard) half of what I'd ask in my E-mails revision wise and it could get frustrating.

I commissioned 8 heads from her total. I never asked for more than two rounds of revisions per sculpt as a personal rule. I never had any hassels from her about my asking for revisions, but then, maybe I approached it better than others because I am an artist too, and my replies would be filled with lots of compliments and praise as well as the changes I'd want.

It's hard to know because obviously I'm not privy to how everyone else asks and what-not. Maybe everyone else is asking as politely. Also, I was lucky in that she had a pretty high success rate for me personally, so I didn't feel the need to rock the boat and annoy her. I know sometimes a sculpt just isn't going to turn out.

Because of that, I think asking for more than two revisions is a little rude if they are honestly trying to please you and doing what you asked. Yes, you paid good money, but as an artist, each head isn't always going to work out. But on the other hand, if she's not willing to do any revisions at all, then THAT'S a problem.

That said, I think the only really bad head I commissioned was the Dean Winchester, IMHO, because in my mind he would have needed an entire re-do right from the start, and yet still, she changed a lot on him for me, so she tried. Painted, he actually looks a lot better than the pics would lead you to believe, but knowing how dead-on a successful Ada head is with others, he just wasn't one of her better successes.

For my Sam Winchester and Patrick Troughton (Doctor Who #2), she pretty much got nailed the first try.

Most others needed profile/nose corrections because she didn't look at the other ref I sent. Great from the front, bad fron the side. This erratic behavior in work really makes me wonder if "Ada" is more than one person, because why would she use the side ref only sometimes?

Most of my other sculpts were close to being done by the second pics she'd send me.

I'd still be willing to use her again for really small isoteric commissions when Chris Howe is too busy here because of 1,000 other board commissions he's been getting from people leaving Ada in droves (laugh).

He's really a class act. Hopefully he can show her through example and competition how it should all be done. :banana:banana:banana
 
WST - thanks for sharing details of your commission experiences with Ada. It is indeed possible that she may be outsourcing (sub-contracting) some of the jobs to other sculptors. This would explain why sometimes she uses the side profile and sometimes she doesn't.

I do agree with you that Chris Howes is a class act. And I don't say this in comparison with Ada (or anybody else for that matter). He's just genuinely nice and very accommodating.
 
To sum it up...
Shes a business oriented 1/6th scale head sculptor.. she lacks passion in action figures so you cant really blame her for not hitting the target.
I think this is a fair assumption - which is underscored by your next statement below.

and so much for OOAK commissioned head sculpt when you pay $200 for it and she sells copies to others for $25.... :rolleyes:
Personally, I think whoever commissions her for whatever project should have the final say as to whether or not further castings can be sold. It seems unfair for a group, of say 10 people, to pay $35 each only to find out that it's 10 bucks cheaper by just waiting a few days after release. I hope she realizes that this "hurts" her credibility both as an artist and as a business person.
 
As for me, I've never commissioned a head from her, but all the business relationships I've had with her were great. She delivers fast, her parcel are amazingly well packed (a head, in a plastic bag, in a cloth bag, in a small box, in a bigger box, even in a bigger box!) and her prices reasonnable. But I think that some of the bad feedback on the relationship between her and customers are also often due to the language barrier. Her messages are often short and sometimes difficult to understand, so I guess that the reverse is true.
One thing is sure, on her site, she's asked for feedback on the Reeves fig (mostly bad of course) and the HS is no longer listed, so I guess she's correcting it...
 
Chris Reeve is essentially what most people would recognise as Superman and his facial features are quite unique, so it is really stange that there is absolutely no resembling features of Reeve in her work. Poor effort from her or those who work throug her with this one. Hope she is able to revise it for the people who can't get the head through Les.
 
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