ALL THINGS TRANSFORMERS!!!!

[teemu]

What is Snarl about to do to Grimlock?

 

[karamazov80]

Good lord that Snarl is MASSIVE compared to MP Grimmy.

 

[soundwave]

Good lord that Snarl is MASSIVE compared to MP Grimmy.

I was thinking the same.
Unless GP do a Grimlock to scale I think it's going to look a bit odd
But damn if he doesn't look really imposing

Neil

 

[thecorsair]

Badcube have said on Facebook that they've posted out all the Wardog stock to retailers so they should start arriving next week.

Really looking forward to the figure....except for having to transform it 'cos it looks like one of those that's a bit of a chore as opposed to being fun but it might prove otherwise once I have it hand.

 

[Spanbauer]

Amazon now has a listing for Combiner Wars Devastator in place, complete with new photography. Really love how loyal this set is to G1; I understand all of the gripes but still think it's an awesome set. Can't wait to see what Takara-Tomy does with it, though.

Amazon.com: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Devastator Figure Set: Toys & Games

 

[sharpnel]

This is the grail for all combiners. I'm sure Fans Toys, X-Transbots, Unique Toys, Warbotron, Mastermind Creations, etc. are cooking up a plan for Devastator.

 

[franpincho]

That looks incredible. Better than the 3P attempts IMO.

But I'll be picking up the Takara version.

 

[thecorsair]

This is the grail for all combiners. I'm sure Fans Toys, X-Transbots, Unique Toys, Warbotron, Mastermind Creations, etc. are cooking up a plan for Devastator.

In 2015 I think anyone producing combiners should be aiming a lot higher than that Titan Class joke. It's not the 80's any more and Transformer design has evolved beyond that kind of simplistic approach.

Hasbro get away with it because their primary market is kids and in North America at least, their stuff is cheap to buy.

3rd parties tend to target older collectors with more disposable cash who can be a lot pickier so they don't have the luxury of being able to release any old rubbish and be guaranteed the desired amount of sales.

Fans Toys = Don't make anything but Masterpiece figures so they have no need to compete with Combiner Wars.

If that ever changed their designer could come up with a better looking combiner in his sleep and the individual robots wouldn't be treated as an afterthought.

XTransbots = Like FT are only making Masterpiece figures and are busy with Cyclonus, Scourge, Windcharger, Tailgate and Beachcomber and have also teased Cosmos, Powerglide, Brawn & Outback. Unless some of those are shelved they aren't making a combiner any time soon.

MMC = Are starting to dip their toes into the Masterpiece pond with Sphinx ( Mirage ) and have just shown renders for Hotspot which suggests their next combiner is Defensor.

There's been sufficient time since TFC Hercules and MakeToys Giant that MMC, Warbotron and Unique Toys may feel it's worth having a go at their own versions but they could also decide to follow the money and join the Masterpiece bandwagon.

With Takara showing no intrest in doing anything as ambitious as combiners the gap in the Masterpiece market is wide open and it's only a matter of time before somebody takes the plunge.

 

[Spanbauer]

In 2015 I think anyone producing combiners should be aiming a lot higher than that Titan Class joke. It's not the 80's any more and Transformer design has evolved beyond that kind of simplistic approach.

Hasbro get away with it because their primary market is kids and in North America at least, their stuff is cheap to buy.

3rd parties tend to target older collectors with more disposable cash who can be a lot pickier so they don't have the luxury of being able to release any old rubbish and be guaranteed the desired amount of sales.

Fans Toys = Don't make anything but Masterpiece figures so they have no need to compete with Combiner Wars.

If that ever changed their designer could come up with a better looking Devastator in his sleep and the individual Constructicons wouldn't look s**t either.

XTransbots = Like FT are only making Masterpiece figures and are busy with Cyclonus, Scourge, Windcharger, Tailgate and Beachcomber and have also teased Cosmos, Powerglide, Brawn & Outback. Unless some of those are shelved they aren't making a combiner any time soon.

MMC = Are starting to dip their toes into the Masterpiece pond with Sphinx ( Mirage ) and have just shown renders for Hotspot which suggests their next combiner is Defensor.

There's been sufficient time since TFC Hercules and MakeToys Giant that MMC, Warbotron and Unique Toys may feel it's worth having a go at their own versions but they could also decide to follow the money and join the Masterpiece bandwagon.

With Takara showing no intrest in doing anything as ambitious as combiners the gap in the Masterpiece market is wide open and it's only a matter of time before somebody takes the plunge.

...Ok. Well, Hasbro/Takara-Tomy's set is the best Devaststor money can buy for $149. The individual bots suffer in some areas for the sake of the set, but I'd still take them over either of the 3rd party offerings given that they actually look like the characters. For a guy who loved the Constructions as a kid but was never going to drop $500 on some unlicensed approximation, this set is really exciting.

 

[teemu]

I still think TFC Hercules is the best Devastator to date...yeah,it's not as big as it should,but the bots and as a combiner are great

 

[thecorsair]

...Ok. Well, Hasbro/Takara-Tomy's set is the best Devaststor money can buy for $149. The individual bots suffer in some areas for the sake of the set, but I'd still take them over either of the 3rd party offerings given that they actually look like the characters. For a guy who loved the Constructions as a kid but was never going to drop $500 on some unlicensed approximation, this set is really exciting.

In the UK the price is closer to $220 from the best import store ( Kapow Toys ) and will probably be more than that once the limited UK stock gets scalped from TRU and put on ebay.

If I still collected Classics I would have stuck with TFC Hercules which is accurate to it's source material as it was based on some of the modern comic art.

Had I wanted to be reminded of the original toy I'd have bought the Encore reissue but I have no intrest in reissues....I am waiting for a set of Masterpiece Constructicons to go with this lot,


According to the scale chart the robot modes for the Constructicons should be slightly smaller than the Seekers which will make the combined robot....big.

Obviously such a set wouldn't be cheap in comparison to what Hasbro are doing but that's just the nature of the beast, particularly when you don't have the option of getting anything "Wal-Mart cheap".

 

[sharpnel]

I'm not happy with TFC Hercules design. Combiner mode is floppy but overall look is not as good as Maketoys. If I'm looking at modern design, Maketoys would be my pick.

Hasbro got the proportion down right. Too bad they are not taking it to the MP level.

 

[thecorsair]

Hasbro got the proportion down right. Too bad they are not taking it to the MP level.

Hasbro had nothing to do with the design of that Devastator, it was done by Shogo Hasui at Takara.

It apparently gave him sleepless nights although I'm not sure whether he meant it was tricky to do or that he lost sleep over the fact he was demoted to the kiddie line after being responsible for virtually all of the greatest run of Transformers in the history of the franchise ( MP10-21 ).

Obviously the budget for a mass market line like Combiner Wars isn't the same as their flagship collector line so the end product was probably the best he could do whilst having to meet a specific pricepoint.

He's spoken in the past of a desire to make a Masterpiece combiner, specifically Bruticus but he's not the one who makes those decisions and with Takara seemingly stuck in a carbot shaped time loop the chances of an official Masterpiece combiner any time soon are borderline non existent.

 

[sharpnel]

All things transformers!!!!

That's too bad. I like that 3rd parties have capitalized on the opportunities. I now find myself looking forward to 3rd party release than Takara MP. Props to Shogo for delivering a great design.


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[thecorsair]

Re: All things transformers!!!!

That's too bad. I like that 3rd parties have capitalized on the opportunities. I now find myself looking forward to 3rd party release than Takara MP.


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The only official release I'm getting this year is blue Bluestreak and that's probably going to be the last official Transformer I'll buy.

3rd party stuff either pre-ordered or on my radar is,

FT Snarl, Sludge, Perceptor, Reflector & the Insecticons
Badcube Warpath
XTransbots Beachcomber, Windcharger, Tailgate, Cyclonus & Scourge

If Takara can't/won't offer more than their present limited assortment then I'll continue to ignore them.

 

[Reinhardt]

I wish Maketoys' version was about 50% taller. Like 18 inches. Then it would be awesome. It is by far the nicest looking Devastator, IMO

 

[franpincho]

Isn't FT working on one?

That would be VERY interesting to see. Is it just one of those rumors?

 

[dajuice]

Still waiting and hoping that one day a great G1 representation of Devastator is announced. He will always be the best combiner followed by Bruticus and then Predaking.

 

[thecorsair]

Isn't FT working on one?

That would be VERY interesting to see. Is it just one of those rumors?

I had a look on dalianj's Facebook and could find no comment from him confirming that they're doing Devastator.

There's also no talk at TFW about it, which leads me to believe the claim somebody made earlier in this thread is lacking in accuracy.

That said, if FT want to prove me wrong then they are more than welcome

 

[Spanbauer]

In the UK the price is closer to $220 from the best import store ( Kapow Toys ) and will probably be more than that once the limited UK stock gets scalped from TRU and put on ebay.

Gross! What's the import price for Takara-Tomy figures for you guys? Is the 3rd party stuff also more expensive?

I'm not happy with TFC Hercules design. Combiner mode is floppy but overall look is not as good as Maketoys. If I'm looking at modern design, Maketoys would be my pick.

I do not care for the TFC Hercules figure at all. MakeToys Green Giant is a really nice Devastator, but the individual robot modes don't even make an attempt to resemble the characters apart from Mixmaster. Honestly the 3rd party stuff has come so far since they did Devastator that someone really ought to tackle the set again; their newer combiners are absolutely incredible. MakeToys Devastator is nice but not $250 nicer than Hasbro's and as I said the individual robot modes are worthless; Hasbro's individual bots may have some severe compromises for the sake of cost, but I love how well they represent the characters.

A reprolabels sticker sheet could go a long way in sharpening up those Hasbro Constructicons.