ALL THINGS TRANSFORMERS!!!!

[DPrime]

Seems very odd to take issue with names, considering that even Hasbro itself has had to change many names over the years of Transformers and GI Joes due to legal issues. I guess you'll never buy a Masterpiece "Shockblast" figure if released since he legally can't be called "Shockwave." Or for that matter, any figure named "Sergeant Kup," "Decepticon Rumble," "Autobot Jazz," etc.

I think they've gotten past the Shockblast thing, but yeah.

Is the issue that "Jazz" and "Rumble" are too generic for them to trademark?

 

[loricstone]

I've heard this from a few others and I just don't get it.

The Insecticons were always kind of small. Not Bumblebee small, or anything, but the FansProject versions are pretty much perfectly sized next to the new MP Prime. Why would anyone want a 12" Shrapnel?

Mind you, these are probably meant for a "Classics" collection more so than Masterpiece, but I display mine with MP Starscream and they don't look out of place whatsoever.



There are other "purists" out there but I've never heard of anyone like this... a name? Haven't you ever heard the saying "a rose by any other name is still a rose"?

The third party names are only different for legal reasons.



Again, that's why the Insecticons are smaller...



Okay, I'm sorry, but that is WEIRD.

You are missing out on several versions which are superior to the Hasbro releases. I can see how this might be a factor if you're a MISB collector and display the boxes, but if they're going to be opened, who cares what the packaging says? The Takara Masterpiece Primes (all versions), Seekers (except Walmart Starscream... but then Takara released MP-11 so...) and Rodimus are ALL better and more accurate than the Hasbro ones. The only exception might be Grimlock - and I'm not convinced either one is "better" per se, just different.

You're missing out, dude.

Ill answer all bold statements in order.

1)The Insecticons are about the same size as Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Prowl, etc. Although the 3rd party figures look nice, they still are simply too small, especially when comparing it to the newest MPs. In fact, the Insecticons, when comparing them to the MP Thundercracker and Skywarp for instance, should probably come up to the missle pods of the Seekers. THey should be at least in the 7" - 8" range. These Insecticons are too damn small. They aren't even 5". That's ridiculous.

2)I'm sure you're aware that "all apples don't taste the same!" If I grew up in Japan with those names for their TF characters, then I wouldn't complain. But I'm American, and I grew up watching American TFs. The movies are based off American TF names, not Japanese ones. You may not feel that way (and that's fine), but I do. And if I do, I know others do as well. As unique as I'd like to think I am, there are many others on this planet that feel the same way but just have probably never stated it as such (for whatever reason).

3)I am exactly one of those....a MISB collector that likes to display the packaging with the figure showing. When I was a kid, I, to my dismay now, opened and played with all my TFs and didn't give a damn about the boxes. Oh how disappointed I am I did that. Of course being a kid, keeping original packaging materials meant diddly squat to me.

I'm not saying my way is the right way or anything like that, but for me, this is what I personally want to see. BTW, I am getting my Hasbro Rodimus Prime Masterpiece today, to go along with my Skywarp and Thundercracker. Hoping to get an Optimus soon and ultimately Grimlock and Starscream MPs.

I get that one of the appeals of TFs is the ability to transform them into their respective modes, but I am more of a collector and appreciator of asthetic of art and sculpt.

In fact, if I ever come into tons of money I will actively seek a TF license via Hasbro and whoever else I need to to make the biggest most detailed TFs as statues, then have the smaller vehicle form in front of the much bigger robot form.

Im talking SS type stuff.

Optimus 24"
Ironhide 20"
Grimlock 26"
Bruticus 40"

Maybe you can see my perspective knowing this.

With all this being said though, I still give lots of credit to these 3rd parties for delving into and doing these cool figures, I just wish they were a little bigger.

 

[loricstone]

Seems very odd to take issue with names, considering that even Hasbro itself has had to change many names over the years of Transformers and GI Joes due to legal issues. I guess you'll never buy a Masterpiece "Shockblast" figure if released since he legally can't be called "Shockwave." Or for that matter, any figure named "Sergeant Kup," "Decepticon Rumble," "Autobot Jazz," etc.

You are right, I never would buy a MP called Shockblast. Absolutely not, I don't care how nice it looks. In addition, the Takara MPs are entirely too expensive. I can see myself paying $499 for a humongous 24" Optimus (detailed painted and sculpted). I find it very hard to pay $200 + for a small plastic toy.

In regards to the Sergeant Kup, Decepticon Rumble, Autobot Jazz, that does not bother me, because the names are still there.

One other thing, I can't read Japanese, so English is my preferred choice of writing of instructions and wording on the box / packaging.

Hey, what can I say, I'm extremely picky. I'm the same way with women. They must have certain things I am looking for physically and mentally, otherwise its a turn off.

 

[sharpnel]

I missed out on the iGear conehead seekers. Anyone know where I can find them besides eBay?

 

[Valfar]

I always thought i wouldn't need a MP10 since i felt comfortable with my MP01 but, so glad i i got it now and glad i waited for the Hasbro version since it looks a bit better then the Takara version.

New MP seeker tweeks are ok, i like new head and forearms,heels are a plus as well but, kinda dislike the leg kibble in robot mode and not to mention the headsculpt might rub paint off after numerous transformations.

 

[soundwave]

I missed out on the iGear conehead seekers. Anyone know where I can find them besides eBay?

I'm the same.

Sold a few bits to get the cash together when iGear were still selling them direct @ $440 shipped but by the time I'd sold enough to buy them they were sold out

Now it's just Ebay @ over £300 for the set

Maybe one day I'll get them.

Neil

 

[DPrime]

I always thought i wouldn't need a MP10 since i felt comfortable with my MP01 but, so glad i i got it now and glad i waited for the Hasbro version since it looks a bit better then the Takara version.

What do you think looks the same about it, exactly? Just wondering.

New MP seeker tweeks are ok, i like new head and forearms,heels are a plus as well but, kinda dislike the leg kibble in robot mode and not to mention the headsculpt might rub paint off after numerous transformations.

Leg kibble's much better than surfboards attached at the hip.

I gotta get me a TC... I love my MP-11, though.

And I've got the iGear Coneheads, too.

 

[Valfar]

What do you think looks the same about it, exactly? Just wondering.



Leg kibble's much better than surfboards attached at the hip.

I gotta get me a TC... I love my MP-11, though.

And I've got the iGear Coneheads, too.

Well, they are both essentially aiming for a G1 style Prime but, now i think this Hasbro MP10 really comes the closest so far to a G1 animated style Prime which i want in a modern day G1 focused collector toy line, just the cab windows being too rectangular kinda throws it for me but, i can deal with it.

For the older Seeker mold i just popped those "surfboards" off the peg and the peg didn't bother me too much..not as much as the bulky kibble on the legs of this new mold with some exposed screws of to the sides of the near the knee area.

 

[darkknight]

Damn, I really want that MP Prime. I keep looking on TFW2005 sales thread and someone had one for $125 shipped. I messages him and he said $125 PayPal gift only and he gave me his Paypal address. I asked if I could pay as goods and pay any fees. I had no reply but he posted on the sales thread that its already sold. Why would you give me your Paypal address then sell it to someone else?

I finally saw TFP Voyager Dreadwing and looks good. But damn my local TRU is selling it for $30. I'm just waiting for target or Walmart to stock it. Design looks good, is Airachnid hard to find? I just saw 1 once.

 

[Gipetto0812]

Nice pics Vslfar. I still haven't had the chance to open mine from his plastic prison. But I will say like a video reviewer said on Seibertron.com in that the Takara MP-10 is more G1 toy oriented in matching the color/look (except for the yellow eyes) where as the Hasbro version is more cartoon oriented in its color scheme plus the eyes are painted which is great.

For the new Seeker mold, I dig it and the "boot" like feet/lower legs. I didn't like and don't take off the "surf boards" b/c the point of a transformer to me is that everything works both in vehicle mode and robot mode without having to leave parts out. It all fits which makes the new Seeker mold work for me

 

[karamazov80]

I also kinda like the boot feet.

Damn, I really want that MP Prime. I keep looking on TFW2005 sales thread and someone had one for $125 shipped. I messages him and he said $125 PayPal gift only and he gave me his Paypal address. I asked if I could pay as goods and pay any fees. I had no reply but he posted on the sales thread that its already sold. Why would you give me your Paypal address then sell it to someone else?

There is little doubt in my mind that these are going to flood the pegs before Christmas.

 

[loricstone]

I have doubts about that! No Toys'R Us have them in stock and what's more, there is no indication from all the TRUs I have visited and talked to that they are getting any shipments any time soon. As popular as this is, I just have a feeling I'll be a minute or so too late.

 

[darkknight]

I also kinda like the boot feet.


There is little doubt in my mind that these are going to flood the pegs before Christmas.

Yeah especially where I'm at. If they do get them in I expect them to sell quick. I was told by a TRU worker that there is a few people asking for it.

 

[karamazov80]

Well, fret if you must But Hasbro knows that Prime is a cash cow. And the Thundercrackers which were initially hard to find now clog the aisles.

 

[Gipetto0812]

Well, fret if you must But Hasbro knows that Prime is a cash cow. And the Thundercrackers which were initially hard to find now clog the aisles.

This man speaks the truth

When I found MP-10, they had at least 10 TC figures if not more on the shelves

 

[karamazov80]

The old MP Primes went on discount at Wal-Mart for $20-something and less before all was said and done because they were so overproduced. They were also on HasbroToyShop's website for ages.

 

[Gipetto0812]

Yep very true. An awesome day that was when I got MP-01 for only $12.95!!! Til this day I don't think I've gotten a better deal than that

 

[MadCow]

The old MP Primes went on discount at Wal-Mart for $20-something and less before all was said and done because they were so overproduced. They were also on HasbroToyShop's website for ages.

I got my original for $40 dlvd from a friend because my stores never clearanced them. And I thought that was a great deal.

 

[MxBxM]

I guess it depends on the Toys r Us. The ones I have close by only have the Prime Toys and from Dark of the Moon stuff still. I go to them often as I am trying to get the new Marvel Universe figures if Beta Ray Bill, Hulk, Punisher and Kraven.

 

[thecorsair]

Yep very true. An awesome day that was when I got MP-01 for only $12.95!!! Til this day I don't think I've gotten a better deal than that

That's about as much as a Legends Class figure costs here

My experiences with the Hasbro releases of MP01 were,

1st version,
Went on clearance for £29.99 ( $48 approx ) at TRU.

I bought one, and the legs fell off the moment I removed it from the packaging. The paint apps were also poor which was likely due to the diecast which is always prone to chipping.

I returned it and went through the entire pallet that was left and couldn't find a good one so I got a refund.

2nd version
Pretty much the same as the 1st one.

After that I decided not to waste money on any Hasbro Masterpiece again and it took iGear's downsized KO of MP01 to get me my ideal version of that design.