ALL THINGS TRANSFORMERS!!!!

[bicoid18]

I think Hasbro/Takara realizes that these 3rd party companies do more good than harm, as they help a certain niche collector group maintain interest in Transformers while, if Hasbro were left to its own devices, many of these collectors would turn off completely and not spend any $$ at Target/Toys R Us/etc. on the various MP/Classics type figures that are released. I'm in that group.

Yeah. It's like Hasbro/TT has to balance a fine line between appeasing long time fans/collectors and redesigning the classic core characters to entice and cultivate interest from the new generation of fans coming up. The MP's just hit that nostalgic sweet spot for people who grew on the G1 cartoon. Frankly I don't blame 3rd party companies from exploiting this fact. For me, I have no interest in the movie stuff, but it's a necessary evil as I think that's where Hasbro makes a lot of their money as well as potentially future collectors. Money that hopefully finds its in supporting development of new figures, including MPs.

This is all assuming of course that Hasbro and TT are connected financially.

 

[thecorsair]

Corsair: I think you're better off going for Iron Monger. It'll be harder to get that and it'll only get more expensive the longer you wait. This WFC OS is nice, but it's only a matter of time until someone releases a big G1 Omega Supreme. Do you want to later kick yourself for not going for Monger, a one of a kind thing, and instead went for an Omega that you will just have to replace?

That's what I'm leaning towards, WFC Omega Supreme has a great robot mode but the alt mode....isn't good and at that kind of price I have to be 110% into something which is defnitely the case with Iron Monger.

I don't expect a Masterpiece version for a long while given what's already known to be in some stage of development but I wouldn't rule one out either as Takara seem more open to taking the Masterpiece line to new places.

Then there's the 3rd party factor, somebody else is bound to see the WFC one being made and try doing a G1 version to compete just like there's been a couple of Devastators so there's bound to be some choice.

bicoid18,
Having missed out on Mech Test Tony Stark due to not being back into HT collecting at the time of the pre-order I know how prices can rise so I think I'll try and get Iron Monger ASAP ( probably be January ) before it goes above what I'm willing to pay.

Congrats on pulling the trigger on MP11, you can always build it a hangar out of Big Mac boxes

I got a message from Kapow Toys earlier which confirms Masterpiece Red Alert is en route!

 

[bicoid18]

Congrats on pulling the trigger on MP11, you can always build it a hangar out of Kraft macaroni and cheese boxes

Fixed.

Congrats on Red Alert.

 

[Rock83]

The Price on Omega isn't that bad for the size though,so if someone really wants a Omega,this is the best one we'll see for a long time.

I really love the hunt for these toys from third party companies,because i get caught with surprise every single time.Yesterday for example,the only Reflector toys i knew existed was TFC's Photron and i was close to purchasing it,until i saw Perfect Effect's Scouting Force,which is alot more G1 accurate than TFC's version.
Im sure there are more out there that i haven't seen yet because of the names they give them.

Did any Third Party company make Huffer or Windcharger?

 

[thecorsair]

Fixed.

Congrats on Red Alert.

And thanks, I'll post some comparison pics with Sideswipe when it arrives.

Rock83,
Here's iGear's Rager AKA Huffer,

It was one of the first 2 Mini Warriors iGear did.

The other one was Spray...no prizes for working out who that is

Scouting Force X is one of the best transforming robot toys ever.

The little robots are very poseable and the way all the weapons form various camera parts is very clever as is the way pretty much everything can be stored in one mode or the other and you can either leave all the weapons off and have them look like the cartoon or have 'em tooled up and ready to kick ass!

Many bigger items usually get the credit for being the best 3rd party Transformers but I think it's as good as just about anything currently out there....TFC's Reflector has too many camera parts hanging off the robot modes to really capture the G1 aesthetic.

 

[DPrime]

That Omega Supreme looks great, but for me it comes down to space... and of course money, but honestly, my Transformers collection isn't all that large. It's mainly broken down into three parts: G1, Beast Wars, Animated and Prime, and really only characters who made an appearance in the show.

By G1 I mean the characters - I do have quite a few reissues in boxes and even a few originals (I should really sell all of these). what I have on display is the new stuff, like MPs, third party and CHUGs.

I do have a small number of videogame TFs but I'm not sure I want to make it yet another line to collect... Omega looks great but I've already passed on Bruticus.

I might be tempted by an Animated version, but the only one I'm relatively certain I'd pull the trigger on is the G1 design.

 

[DPrime]

The Price on Omega isn't that bad for the size though,so if someone really wants a Omega,this is the best one we'll see for a long time.

I really love the hunt for these toys from third party companies,because i get caught with surprise every single time.Yesterday for example,the only Reflector toys i knew existed was TFC's Photron and i was close to purchasing it,until i saw Perfect Effect's Scouting Force,which is alot more G1 accurate than TFC's version.
Im sure there are more out there that i haven't seen yet because of the names they give them.

Did any Third Party company make Huffer or Windcharger?

Are you looking for the Perfect Effect Reflector/Scouting Force?

I'm thinking of selling mine. It's great but I need to slim down my collection a bit.

Also thinking of selling my Runabout/Runamuck TFCC set and the FansProject Insecticons.

All great figures - just thinking seriously about what I can do without right now.

 

[Rock83]

And thanks, I'll post some comparison pics with Sideswipe when it arrives.

Rock83,
Here's iGear's Rager AKA Huffer,

It was one of the first 2 Mini Warriors iGear did.

The other one was Spray...no prizes for working out who that is

Scouting Force X is one of the best transforming robot toys ever.

The little robots are very poseable and the way all the weapons form various camera parts is very clever as is the way pretty much everything can be stored in one mode or the other and you can either leave all the weapons off and have them look like the cartoon or have 'em tooled up and ready to kick ass!

Many bigger items usually get the credit for being the best 3rd party Transformers but I think it's as good as just about anything currently out there....TFC's Reflector has too many camera parts hanging off the robot modes to really capture the G1 aesthetic.

Thanks for sharing that pic,didn't know they made a Huffer.Im definitely gonna hunt down that one.

Are you looking for the Perfect Effect Reflector/Scouting Force?

I'm thinking of selling mine. It's great but I need to slim down my collection a bit.

Also thinking of selling my Runabout/Runamuck TFCC set and the FansProject Insecticons.

All great figures - just thinking seriously about what I can do without right now.

I ordered the Scouting force from BBTS right away when i saw it,allready under way.I would have helped you getting rid of the set if i had known.
Didn't know about the Insecticons either,but that's no biggie,zero interest in them anyway.
Im gonna hunt down Season 1 Robots only for now,really no interest in new characters from "TF The Movie" or S3,Ultra Magnus is the only exception.

 

[DPrime]

^ Yeah, I think Season 1 is the way to go. Technically the Insecticons fall under that, but I don't know... Some people at TFW2005 were going to make an upgrade set for the FP ones to make them look more G1, but it never materialized.

I like the movie characters, for the most part. Even Hot Rod.

 

[Rock83]

You never know though,it's easy to fall into the temptation to get the rest just to complete it once you have the characters you need.

The Insecticons look nice,but not a priority right now,maybe later.

How big are they anyway?

 

[DPrime]

You never know though,it's easy to fall into the temptation to get the rest just to complete it once you have the characters you need.

The Insecticons look nice,but not a priority right now,maybe later.

How big are they anyway?

Deluxe sized. Maybe a tad shorter.

If only someone would at least make some G1 headsculpts... come on!!!

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

The guys that broke it down for me, I thank you all very much. I now have a better understanding on the whole situation. Now I won't have to scratch my head anymore whenever I see these toys on display at the local Tf toy shop here in guang zhou china.

 

[PUFNSTUF360]

I really have to take some pics of my collection and post some on here. They are all newish figures, as I prefer the sleeker design over the more boxy look of the 1st gen figures.

 

[lerath666]

God damnit Dprime... I JUST bought a second set of the scouting force x, AND the insecticons for a trade with a guy a few days ago... bet i could have gotten them cheaper from you :/

oh well.

 

[lerath666]

^ Yeah, I think Season 1 is the way to go. Technically the Insecticons fall under that, but I don't know... Some people at TFW2005 were going to make an upgrade set for the FP ones to make them look more G1, but it never materialized.

I like the movie characters, for the most part. Even Hot Rod.

Also, the upgrade set is still in the works. spoonman appearently had some RL issues derail it for a little while .

 

[Solid_Slug]

Some new 3rd party pictures if not already seen here:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/465826_525117764173610_1204780816_o.jpg

Stunticons:

https://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff489/07831504/breakdown.jpg

https://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff489/07831504/deadend.jpg

https://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff489/07831504/wildrider.jpg

Sword of Mastermind Predaking:

https://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1355518496_07 (1).jpg


Perhaps takara could solve the possible MP-combiner size problem by doing official Predaking. Each bots could be approx the size of Sideswipe and Razorclaw could be slightly taller.

 

[DPrime]

God damnit Dprime... I JUST bought a second set of the scouting force x, AND the insecticons for a trade with a guy a few days ago... bet i could have gotten them cheaper from you :/

oh well.

Heh, bad timing! Congrats on the trade though.

 

[lerath666]

loving the fansproject stunticons.

 

[YoNoSe]

loving the fansproject stunticons.

Seconded.

 

[thecorsair]

Some new 3rd party pictures if not already seen here:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/465826_525117764173610_1204780816_o.jpg

Stunticons:

https://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff489/07831504/breakdown.jpg

https://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff489/07831504/deadend.jpg

https://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff489/07831504/wildrider.jpg

Sword of Mastermind Predaking:

https://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1355518496_07 (1).jpg


Perhaps takara could solve the possible MP-combiner size problem by doing official Predaking. Each bots could be approx the size of Sideswipe and Razorclaw could be slightly taller.

FP Stunticons
Hideously ugly alt modes and shared molds for Dead End & Wildrider = LAME!

What's been shown of the 2 Predakings so far looks good, but I have no nostalgic connection with the characters and without a full set of Masterpiece Dinobots to display battling the Predacons they aren't must haves.