ALL THINGS TRANSFORMERS!!!!

[Niltusk]

I think it would've look better if it was just the green color and no camo at all, but thats just me.

I definitely could have lived with that as well, but I'm just glad since they used the camo pattern that they used the new style the military is using.

 

[Niltusk]

Trying to ignore non MP pieces, but I was looking at the triple changers today at WalMart, whats everyone think of those thats got them in hand?

 

[Spiderwebb13]

Trying to ignore non MP pieces, but I was looking at the triple changers today at WalMart, whats everyone think of those thats got them in hand?

I'll get both later this week when I get my TFsource stack. I've read good things about both, and they look fantastic especially Springer.

 

[Boba Ben]

Trying to ignore non MP pieces, but I was looking at the triple changers today at WalMart, whats everyone think of those thats got them in hand?

I have Springer. He's one of the best non masterpiece Transformers I've seen in a very long time.

 

[Gakken85]

fabled, rumored asian re-release of MP-08. preorder up and going fast.

https://www.lunartoystore.com/products/mp-08-asian-exclusive-grimlock-pre-order

 

[jnmx2000]

fabled, rumored asian re-release of MP-08. preorder up and going fast.

https://www.lunartoystore.com/products/mp-08-asian-exclusive-grimlock-pre-order

they should just do all the Dinobots in MP form. I have grimlock and he's awesome. A collection of Grimlock, slag, snarl, swoop, and sludge in MP form would be sick, I can't tell you how cool that would be.

 

[Wanderer]

Quick question: Is the Art Feather Bumblebee a good choice to fit in with my masterpiece line scale wise?

 

[thecorsair]

Quick question: Is the Art Feather Bumblebee a good choice to fit in with my masterpiece line scale wise?

It's OK for a reshell of an aging Classics mold but with Masterpiece Bumblebee on the way why bother?

Niltusk,
Springer was the first mass market Transformer I bought in over a year. Helicopter mode isn't the greatest but the other 2 modes are very nice although the car mode can be a bit fiddly to get everything tabbed together correctly.

Rock83,
Yeah, it's too bad that the latest Mini Warriors have messed up coloring but with official ones now on the table and another 3rd party company making some the chances of better season 1 Minibots are very good.

I recieved the first volume of IDW's "More Than Meets The Eye" this morning and my initial opinion is,

WTF has happened to Transformers?

I've read the occasional comment at TFW that said everything started to go downhill from "All Hail Megatron" onwards and if the first couple of issues of this are any indication it's not just gone downhill, it's jumped off a cliff....and I don't mean the little red guy who likes accusing fellow Autobots of being traitors.

Things I discovered,

The war is over. Cybertron is slowly being reborn.

Optimus Prime has now gone back to calling himself Orion Pax and seems to spend most of his time standing around and moping.

Non affiliated Cybertronians who fled the war have returned and are protesting against the remnants of the Autobot heirarchy. There's even references to some of them making claims for compensation....WTF?

Prowl's original G1 characterisation was basically the Autobot version of Spock, just as Shockwave was for the Decepticons. Logic was their thing.

For reasons known to themselves IDW pissed all over that and turned Prowl into the equivalent of someone from Health & Safety, an officious prick who's obsessed with rules and regulations.

But in MTMTE the creative team have gone full retard and made him a borderline racist ( towards the refugees )

The refugees are all given electronic tags that prevents them from transforming.

Chromedome and Rewind are portrayed as a stereotypical gay couple.

In addition to Angstymus Prime, the majority of the other characters are prone to questioning each other and arguing amongst themselves.

On almost every f'ing page

Occasionally incorporating real world issues and humanising the character personas wouldn't be so bad but there's that much of it in the first 2 issues of the story that it completely misses the point of what Transformers is about and also comics in general....they're supposed to be a form of escapism.

I've not mentioned the artwork yet.

It's bloody awful.

All the characters are recognisable as G1 based designs but the proportions are all over the place and hardly anyone looks good....if the forthcoming Whirl toy looks like he does in this story it'll be an ugly, chicken legged POS.

The only high points from the first couple of issues was Swerve and his amusing obsession with quests and Whirl's insanity.

I'll see if I can make it to the end but it's going to have to pick up A LOT if I'm going to even consider buying the other volumes.

How could the team behind "Last Stand of the Wreckers" get it so wrong?

 

[soundwave]

I gave up on MTME & RID after about issue 8

It's all gone a bit Star Wars prequels for my liking & ridiculously political

TF's should always be about out & out war & tons of fighting this is just nothing like what I want add in the fact the Bumblebee is leading the Autobots & say no more.

I still find Re-generation one as a good read but these titles are awful

Neil

 

[DPrime]

Psh

Psshh, doesn't count.

 

[DPrime]

What's up with digital camo anyways? Doesn't traditional one work better with the human eye? Or is it used on aircrafts to trick satellite images?

Satellite images won't be fooled - these things still generate heat, after all.

Plus, human eyes are still looking at them.

 

[DPrime]

fabled, rumored asian re-release of MP-08. preorder up and going fast.

https://www.lunartoystore.com/products/mp-08-asian-exclusive-grimlock-pre-order

I LOVE that box.

Not enough to buy another MP (and import it), but still. Nice.

 

[Ra88]

I still find Re-generation one as a good read but these titles are awful

Neil

...That's it, I'm in Bizarro world.

 

[soundwave]

...That's it, I'm in Bizarro world.

Lol

I didn't say it was great but it's still keep me entertained which is something MTME & RID failed to do...I found them such a chore to read that I quickly lost all interest in them.

As much as Regen One confuses matters I still prefer the characters & the writing.

Neil

 

[soundwave]

I LOVE that box.

Not enough to buy another MP (and import it), but still. Nice.

I was thinking that, the box is lush

It's not $250 + shipping + Customs lush but it is very pretty

Neil

 

[Ra88]

Lol

I didn't say it was great but it's still keep me entertained which is something MTME & RID failed to do...I found them such a chore to read that I quickly lost all interest in them.

As much as Regen One confuses matters I still prefer the characters & the writing.

Neil

I just find it amusing because ReGen is considered the worst Transformers comic currently running in the places I frequent. Nothing against you liking it of course.

I can see why MTME and RID would fail to hold your interest though. It all depends on what you want out of a Transformers story. For me, I've seen the war done to death and endlessly recycled, so it's refreshing to have stories that do something completely different for once (though RiD fails at what it sets out to do). But for someone who doesn't suffer from that fatigue yet, yeah, I can totally get why ReGen holds your preference.

I've read the occasional comment at TFW that said everything started to go downhill from "All Hail Megatron" onwards and if the first couple of issues of this are any indication it's not just gone downhill, it's jumped off a cliff....and I don't mean the little red guy who likes accusing fellow Autobots of being traitors.

Well...They did go downhill. But MTME and RID is where they started getting better again, with especially MTME being generally regarded as one of the best examples of Transformers fiction. I'm conflicted on recommending the rest to you though. On one hand, in the second volume it really picks up, but on the other...If it didn't grip you by the end of the first, it's not for you.

And yeah. It's not a typical transformers story. That's the entire point of it. It shows what they do after the war is done while delving into their history and culture, each title in their own way (though RID delves back into Autobots vs Decepticons again later on). They're not your typical Transformers stories, and that says it all whether it's for you or not. That probably should have been made more clear to you before you picked it up.

if the forthcoming Whirl toy looks like he does in this story it'll be an ugly, chicken legged POS.

Whirl will reportedly be a mix of the Stormbringer and MTME designs, with the organic elements of the latter either entirely removed or barely present.

So my guess it's that the basic Stormbringer design with wider shoulders and VTOL engines on the arms.

 

[soundwave]

I just find it amusing because ReGen is considered the worst Transformers comic currently running in the places I frequent. Nothing against you liking it of course.

I can see why MTME and RID would fail to hold your interest though. It all depends on what you want out of a Transformers story. For me, I've seen the war done to death and endlessly recycled, so it's refreshing to have stories that do something completely different for once (though RiD fails at what it sets out to do). But for someone who doesn't suffer from that fatigue yet, yeah, I can totally get why ReGen holds your preference.

Corsair: Whirl will reportedly be a mix of the Stormbringer and MTME designs, with the organic elements of the latter either entirely removed or barely present.

So my guess it's that the basic Stormbringer design with wider shoulders and VTOL engines on the arms.

Ah no worries I wasn't taking it as a dig or a "WTF you mental nooooob how can you not like them, complete Tool...IGNORE now!!!!" comment

I haven't been into TF comics since DW stopped them way back when & I'm only starting now to get back with them & I came in to MTME & RID as they were both issue 1 so thought best jumping on point & I was totally baffled but stuck with it for as long as I could & the politics just started to get too much by issue 8 so stopped

I have however started buying the IDW Collections & I'm up to volume 3 (which incidentally is like rocking horse poo to buy these days) so perhaps once I've caught up with them MTME & RID will make much more sense & be way more enjoyable.

I'm not writing them off totally just at the moment they aren't on my pull list

Neil

 

[Ra88]

Oh yeah, MTME and RID can be considered jump on points, but that's IMO only for non-Transformers fans or those who were chased off by AHM and the Ongoing (like me). For anyone else, best to just start at the beginning with Furman's -Ation titles and work your way up from there. Collections should do a well enough job from there.

 

[Gakken85]

Only way to get one now is from a domestic seller, so he's already imported it.

Only shipping is domestic.

 

[lerath666]

It's OK for a reshell of an aging Classics mold but with Masterpiece Bumblebee on the way why bother?

Niltusk,
Springer was the first mass market Transformer I bought in over a year. Helicopter mode isn't the greatest but the other 2 modes are very nice although the car mode can be a bit fiddly to get everything tabbed together correctly.

Rock83,
Yeah, it's too bad that the latest Mini Warriors have messed up coloring but with official ones now on the table and another 3rd party company making some the chances of better season 1 Minibots are very good.

I recieved the first volume of IDW's "More Than Meets The Eye" this morning and my initial opinion is,

WTF has happened to Transformers?

I've read the occasional comment at TFW that said everything started to go downhill from "All Hail Megatron" onwards and if the first couple of issues of this are any indication it's not just gone downhill, it's jumped off a cliff....and I don't mean the little red guy who likes accusing fellow Autobots of being traitors.

Things I discovered,

The war is over. Cybertron is slowly being reborn.

Optimus Prime has now gone back to calling himself Orion Pax and seems to spend most of his time standing around and moping.

Non affiliated Cybertronians who fled the war have returned and are protesting against the remnants of the Autobot heirarchy. There's even references to some of them making claims for compensation....WTF?

Prowl's original G1 characterisation was basically the Autobot version of Spock, just as Shockwave was for the Decepticons. Logic was their thing.

For reasons known to themselves IDW pissed all over that and turned Prowl into the equivalent of someone from Health & Safety, an officious prick who's obsessed with rules and regulations.

But in MTMTE the creative team have gone full retard and made him a borderline racist ( towards the refugees )

The refugees are all given electronic tags that prevents them from transforming.

Chromedome and Rewind are portrayed as a stereotypical gay couple.

In addition to Angstymus Prime, the majority of the other characters are prone to questioning each other and arguing amongst themselves.

On almost every f'ing page

Occasionally incorporating real world issues and humanising the character personas wouldn't be so bad but there's that much of it in the first 2 issues of the story that it completely misses the point of what Transformers is about and also comics in general....they're supposed to be a form of escapism.

I've not mentioned the artwork yet.

It's bloody awful.

All the characters are recognisable as G1 based designs but the proportions are all over the place and hardly anyone looks good....if the forthcoming Whirl toy looks like he does in this story it'll be an ugly, chicken legged POS.

The only high points from the first couple of issues was Swerve and his amusing obsession with quests and Whirl's insanity.

I'll see if I can make it to the end but it's going to have to pick up A LOT if I'm going to even consider buying the other volumes.

How could the team behind "Last Stand of the Wreckers" get it so wrong?

Heh... Heh... MTMTE....


Is one of the BEST Transformers stories i've read in a Long LONG time. Not only that, it's one of the BEST comics I've read in a while. It, and it's companion book RID need to be read together, and some other parts as well.

Let's start with Optimus Prime.
He's not Agnsty, per se. He's simply come to the realizeation that he has allowed himself to be defined by the war. now that the war is over, he has Left cybertron to seek some sort of enlightenment, , or inner peace. he also is clearly suffering from some flavor of PTSD in some of the comics both before, and after where you are reading now.
He also thinks that Cybertron CAN'T move forward, if he is a part of it.
He's more Tsundare than angsty. around issue 10 or so he has one of the BETS side sotries in MTMTE.

Prowl...

Spoiler

Isn't Actualy prowl. Bombshell has taken over him, and is using prowl as a pupet as part of megatron's growing master plan to return and kill every cybertonian who isn't a decepticon. This is not going to be revealed untill around issue 16 or so. and when it is, ALOT of people are going to die.

Starscream is an opportunist, and someone who craves victory and power over al else. He's finaly found his TRUE calling, as a ploitician. He's actualy being genuine and serious 90% of the time, and is not part of the decipticon plot.

Stick with it. all hail megatron was a great story. then they launched ongoing, which had some ups and downs, and starts getting better near the end. MTMTE/RID are GREAT stories. I think you might like RID better, if you want more "traditional" transformers stories.

The designs and atrstyles, I agree with you. IDW changes artists too damn much.