An Open Challenge To Kurgans!!!

[dekadentdave]

Dboz, shhhhhhhh!!!!!!

 

[DarkArtist81]

This thread is hilarious....

It's hard to make... plain and simple... It would take several customizers working together AND with the help of motivated and interested parties to even get the ball rolling.... And the flow of money needed to gather materials...

Not to mention the R&D such an undertaking entails. You have to custom make the armor... most of which was on screen a whopping 5 minutes, if that... you have leather, fur, metal bits, the sword, scabbard, boots, gloves.... the list goes on and on. To even attempt it is pure madness. LordAzrael did... to great effect... but he IS crazy... (j/k Az...)

For most of the artists on this site... I know I can speak for many of us... to make time for it would be a nightmare, let alone schedule trips to get together and put it together. So for now... doesn't look to be in the cards...

But as King said... the future is not set... and the Kurgan army never surrenders. It will be done eventually.... but by whom and when???

That's the million dollar question.

 

[p!tu]

Theres to much to read in this tread since i last posted....So has anybody come tu a conclusion!!! When am i geutting my F"N Medival Kurgan!!!

 

[King Darkness]

I leave this thread never to return

 

[bidge1000]

This thread baffles me. I hear a lot of complaining that the Medevil Kurgan wasn't made and also alot of people saying that they want one bad. Since the Sideshow line is dead, it seems that the only option is to make a custom. I know there is a lot of work that goes into making a custom and it takes a lot of time. I also realize that the customizers here are very busy. I still think that this is completely doable. It would be relatively easy to get a head sculpt made, as there are tons of talented artists here. As for the armor, well I can think of a couple people who could do it, although I don't know if they would be interested. Callous is making his own Halo Master Chief (https://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40750&highlight=Master+Chief) I know he could do it, I don't know if he would have the time, though. Then there is Reggie who is making a Gears of War custom (https://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61633). Auret makes custom metal swords (https://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65622).

As for the price factor, well the more people involved and willing to get one, the lower the price becomes. Will it be more expensive than a Sideshow figure, yeah, but it will also be infinitely better than a Sideshow figure.

It would take time to get the project done, but in the end it would be worth it.

wow thanks dboz,
I thought I'd seen talent here but that Master Chief is utterly insane!!!

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[Captain Faramir]

Friend, I suggest you let the matter be for the moment. I can assure you that every avenue has been explored--so much so that there have been bannings, deletions, and a general sense of persecution for the Krusaders for having tried everything--everything--to get their way, to the point of maddening and enraging many. Not only that, no, for they are also incessantly watching for an oppotune moment when they can make the figure, and strike out at any chance they get, even if it puts them at risk, for nobody is as daring and fearless as a Krusader.

I recommend that you offer aid but not challange, suggestions but not demands, respect but not expectation. The Krusaders are strong, and they will not bend their will to the contest of others. You are a good person and really invested in this, but I think you would do well to let the matter be. The Krusaders have perhaps become embittered because they have done so much; I can assure you that if there was a way, they would have taken it. They are indeed battle-worn and scarred, but they are the scars of a fight well-fought.

If you have services you can render beyond mere encouragement, you are indeed most welcome. However, I speak for the Krusade when I say that there is little more that can be done other than wait for the time, resources, and people to conglomerate in order to produce a plan which would make this a feasible project. Much has been done, and the Krusade has learned, through hard war and labor, how to bide its time.

You are welcome here, but remember that the Krusaders have fought a long war that is not yet ended. Driven from their home, they are now a scattered people, but they are hard and strong, grim and bold. Their will shall be done in due time. For now, patience. The Krusade is not dead, but there are roots yet to take hold, and seeds yet to mature. After all, the Krusade will never die!

 

[Batty]

You are welcome here, but remember that the Krusaders have fought a long war that is not yet ended. Driven from their home, they are now a scattered people, but they are hard and strong, grim and bold. Their will shall be done in due time. For now, patience. The Krusade is not dead, but there are roots yet to take hold, and seeds yet to mature. After all, the Krusade will never die!

Very well said, as always. The Krusade lives on in the hearts and minds of many here.

 

[bidge1000]

I've been told to "LEAVE IT" quite a few times on this thread. Stuff about wounds running deep, people speaking in ancient dialect which is fabulous, it shows kinship and being part of something.

Once again, it was never my intention to show any disrespect to anyone, which i don't believe I did. It was to get you guys moving on a figure you all DESPERATELY want. I've been told it will take a long time, it would take people working together. Yet here you all are supporting each other in this thread. Here you all are with a sign-off signature that reads Year f'n One'.
One Year??? Thats a long time guys! It just makes me wonder if it is in fact a Krusade or a support group?

I have also been told that I should bring something to the table instead of challenges. I have emailed 'ASK Sideshow' about seeing the pics from the aborted figure, we'll have to wait to see if that comes through. I've emailed Nick Maley, one of the guys who worked on the design and make-up of the original movie Kurgan to see if he'd be prepared to compare notes with you guys. I've offered my services as a Graphic Designer of 16 years as I'm not a sculptor or a figure painter or good with clothing for figures. I'm sorry if that's not enough for you, If I could do more for you I would.

If people have become upset by my comments I'm afraid I can't apologise. They came from a good place and I stand by them.

I respect you all and i hope when the figure does come, it will be the greatest piece in your collection. It will come.......

D

 

[Captain Faramir]

I for one am not at all offended by anything you have said or done (which is no surprise as nothing really offends me). If it came off such, I apologize. I think it's just that the Krusaders really have done a lot--a lot--to get this done, and there are many pitfalls. E-mails have been sent, people have been talked to, attempts have been made. To say this is a support group rather than a Krusade is a just, but not a true, assessment. While it would appear to be thus, in reality the Krusaders have gone to astounding lengths to see this project through. Yes it would seem as though the Krusade is all talk, but that talk merely embellishes a vast period of effort which is not in fact ended, but rather worn thin. I hope your efforts yield fruit, but remember that the Krusaders have a long history, not just of talking about the figure, but also of exhausting every means of creating the figure. It will be made, and when it does, they'll be the first to see it through. I think you are more than welcome to help out as long as you bear in mind that there is naught but has been tried by them already. I thank you though for rekindling old flames; the brighter the fire burns the warmer the hearts of those who light it!

I'm glad you're here dude.

 

[figuremasterles]

Well said Cap. As always, the class act of the Krusade.


Bidge1000 (whoever you really are...), you seem genuinely concerned for us regarding this figure. Consider me touched.

You say you are an experienced graphic designer...
Well.....ok.....if so, can you, as such a visual artist, help us by breaking down the component parts of the Medieval Kurgan's attire, so it can be rendered into an exploded view sort of image, where we as a group can see it for what it may consist of?
Do you have this much interest? Can you do this level of research for us? Can you go this distance and show us something of your own support for a real project?

What say you?

I think such an offer of interest and genuine support, can only be met with the respect with which you may indeed be due. And, ultimately, some measure of involvement in some real future project, if indeed one is possible.

I am intrigued.

In some dark, dank corner of my overwrought mind, I think...can this fellow(?) be a randy one like the rest of us? Can this one actually break through the veil of design uncertainty and help us to decipher that which none before has heretofore been able to breach? The mind ponders in suspicious curiousity...can it be done?

I remain, cautiously interested in your motives here.

And by the way, that Callous Master Chief figure that Dboz posted a link to...amazing!
Thanks for that. Made my heart flutter a bit.

 

[metaphorge]

This would be a lot easier if NECA would make a 1:6 scale version of their medievel Kurgan figure to use as a starting point.

Actually, come to think of it, the current figure would be helpful in the process t3h FigureMaster described immediately above my post:

Well.....ok.....if so, can you, as such a visual artist, help us by breaking down the component parts of the Medieval Kurgan's attire, so it can be rendered into an exploded view sort of image, where we as a group can see it for what it may consist of?
Do you have this much interest? Can you do this level of research for us? Can you go this distance and show us something of your own support for a real project?

 

[DBoz]

Well, I'm not a sculptor, or particularly good with sewing or painting, but here are some good reference shots that a quick google search yealded.

 

[dekadentdave]

 

[bidge1000]

Well said Cap. As always, the class act of the Krusade.


Bidge1000 (whoever you really are...), you seem genuinely concerned for us regarding this figure. Consider me touched.

You say you are an experienced graphic designer...
Well.....ok.....if so, can you, as such a visual artist, help us by breaking down the component parts of the Medieval Kurgan's attire, so it can be rendered into an exploded view sort of image, where we as a group can see it for what it may consist of?
Do you have this much interest? Can you do this level of research for us? Can you go this distance and show us something of your own support for a real project?

What say you?

I think such an offer of interest and genuine support, can only be met with the respect with which you may indeed be due. And, ultimately, some measure of involvement in some real future project, if indeed one is possible.

I am intrigued.

In some dark, dank corner of my overwrought mind, I think...can this fellow(?) be a randy one like the rest of us? Can this one actually break through the veil of design uncertainty and help us to decipher that which none before has heretofore been able to breach? The mind ponders in suspicious curiousity...can it be done?

I remain, cautiously interested in your motives here.

And by the way, that Callous Master Chief figure that Dboz posted a link to...amazing!
Thanks for that. Made my heart flutter a bit.

I am intrigued that you're intrigued, a while ago you wanted a thumb war!!!!

No mystery here! My name is Denis, I live in London, England. Saw Highlander when I was 14 during a bout of Flu and loved it immediately!

I have started some more research and it turns out that the only good reference on the net at the mo is the stuff that dboz found (thanks dboz). However, I have found a few covers from comic book artists who must have been working from archived visual reference materials. (I will post these up when I know how????) If we can find an email for these guys which is definately possible, i think they'd be more willing to help than say asking Neca to hand over some of their concept art for 7" figs. We could also use photography of the 7" figure and isolate each different element of the costume in Photoshop. Has anyone got these figs at all, who would be willing to take some pics? (front, back, left profile, right profile and possibly some more close-ups)

On a more intriguing note, I have found the name of the actual Kurgan Costume designer. He's an incredibly famous chap in his field called James Acheson, still trying to find contact details at the mo, but he would be THE MAN to go to. He has just finished working on Spiderman 3 as costume designer. Have found his management team, might have to go after him under the guise of a charity event!!

Heck boys and girls, this figure may not be as far away as you thunk it!

 

[dekadentdave]

Heck boys and girls, this figure may not be as far away as you thunk it!

 

[bidge1000]

CLASS!!! And proof you simply can't buy it

 

[dekadentdave]

Dude, how many ways can you beat a dead horse? Seriously. I had hoped this thread would be buried once and for all but you keep digging it up. Ever since the Great Worm Shai Halud was banned and the Darklord kast us out of our homeland in the sandbox the Krusade has been a touchy subject on this board. I'm sure a lot of board members were happy to see us thown out of the sandbox. Things have been relatively quiet since Shai's bannishment. Point is you are hitting upon a very sensitive subject around here and re-opening old wounds. Best to give it a rest. We've heard all of this stuff before. We'll believe it when we see it. If there is a way to make it work, it will happen. If you have something to show, then show it, but rallying up a call to arms to make a Medieval F'n Kurgan around here now is like shouting "Fire!" in a movie theater. I wish the Darklord would just lock this thread for good, move it to the sandbox, or kast it into oblivion like he did our beloved Kurgan thread.

 

[bidge1000]

Dude, how many ways can you beat a dead horse? Seriously. I had hoped this thread would be buried once and for all but you keep digging it up. Ever since the Great Worm Shai Halud was banned and the Darklord kast us out of our homeland in the sandbox the Krusade has been a touchy subject on this board. I'm sure a lot of board members were happy to see us thown out of the sandbox. Things have been relatively quiet since Shai's bannishment. Point is you are hitting upon a very sensitive subject around here and re-opening old wounds. Best to give it a rest. We've heard all of this stuff before. We'll believe it when we see it. If there is a way to make it work, it will happen. If you have something to show, then show it, but rallying up a call to arms to make a Medieval F'n Kurgan around here now is like shouting "Fire!" in a movie theater. I wish the Darklord would just lock this thread for good, move it to the sandbox, or kast it into oblivion like he did our beloved Kurgan thread.

A while ago, you called me an 'ignorant newb'. This is all well and good and your opinion in it's own way is valid, but is my opinion any less valid on this subject because i've only posted a few times? You talk like a real winner my friend, good luck to you.

 

[dekadentdave]

Some muthafukas are always trying to ice skate uphill.

 

[bidge1000]

Some muthafukas are always trying to ice skate uphill.

I'll name that in one!
Blade

Give me another! This time make it original......:emperor

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