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So what was the gripe about the robe?Are you saying that pepole weren't happy with the intial robe?I must have missed this
People were griping about the ribbed, gauzy material being innaccurrate to the film costume. Irish and myself and a few others tried hard to explain to them that the fabric choice was for the better of the piece because it laid better on him, but no matter how hard we tried to explain that, they wanted the right material, now they got it, hope they're happy.
So what was the gripe about the robe?Are you saying that pepole weren't happy with the intial robe?I must have missed this
Uh, yeah dude... you did. There were several people who griped about the initial gauzy robe because it wasn't the same material that was used on the actual robe he wears in the movie. Myself and a couple of others tried to reason with them that it's the overall LOOK of the piece that matters, not 100% accuracy to what was used. These are 1/4 statues, not prop replicas.
Sideshow's latest robe is exactly what many were asking for. So, yeah, you missed it. And in your haste to chastize Sideshow and calling it "false advertisment" you haven't done yourself any favors.
How was inaccurate if it was ribbed in the movie?
So now you telling me that most of the board members (you & Irish not being one of them) had influnced the robes change.I had thought they just wanted to change the tunic under his belt not the damn robe.
It wasn't ribbed in the movie. It was more of a thick, smooth wool, like the 1/6 figure and the new QTVR pics.
Hey! don't get cocky!
You should get in with the guys that f'ed up and had the robe changed not me buddy!
The robes aren't ribbed, the tunics are, not the robes, so the issue was right from the accurracy standpoint.
We don't know for certain what brought the change on. LFL often makes Sideshow change things they shouldn't, like making Sideshow have Andy B. resculpt the Mace Windu 1/6 head for a different expression. If Sideshow did it on their own, odds are it was the chatter on the boards that influenced it, as our voices have got them to fix things in the past, like Plo Koon's saber color, Bespin Luke's shirt, etc...
The tragedy is that of the issues brought up, the robe was the one that shouldn't have been listened to. People forget that just because it was right in the film, doesn't mean it will maintain that quality in a shrunken scale. On a nearly 6 foot tall actor, this type of cloth will have a heavy weight to it, but down to 1/4 or 1/6 scale, it loses all that impact. The gauzy material was a better choice to replicate the weight of the film material, even if it wasn't the film material.
And ALL of my SS Jedi figures' robes hang quite nice with just the tiniest bit of futzing right out of the box, so I'm still baffled as to how people are letting a badly positioned robe in a proto photo drive them to cancel this awesome piece..?!
Or you could save yourself some time and look at the publicity shots and screencaps posted earlier in this thread. The robe was a smooth, wool-like material. Not rib-textured.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. With proper futzing and such, sure, the new robe will look pretty good on him, but having seen a different material in the proto images that as it was put on the figure looked absolutely fantastic, it's easy to not be a fan of the change. The age old rule, if it's not broke don't fix it.
When I started my corrections thead, I listed only things that were either feasible to change before production, or that wouldn't alter the overall aesthetic of what we'd seen, just color corrections and one stitching issue. I left out the robe material because I knew their choice with the gauzy material was for the better, much like many of their non-accurrate choices with the 1/6 figures make for a better look in the scale. The idea is to replicate the film look as best as possible, and once you get to anything under 1:2 scale, you're going to have to depart from the source materials to accomplish the goal. It's better to have the overall piece look right than to be able to walk up within 6 inches of it and know all the materials are just like the worn costume.
That said, there's plent of time for things to change, so I'd never cancel now unless I was only doing FlexPay, but with Sideshow's cancellation policy, there's no reason not to keep it on PO and see what happens, which is what I'll be doing.
When I started my corrections thead, I listed only things that were either feasible to change before production, or that wouldn't alter the overall aesthetic of what we'd seen, just color corrections and one stitching issue. I left out the robe material because I knew their choice with the gauzy material was for the better, much like many of their non-accurrate choices with the 1/6 figures make for a better look in the scale. The idea is to replicate the film look as best as possible, and once you get to anything under 1:2 scale, you're going to have to depart from the source materials to accomplish the goal. It's better to have the overall piece look right than to be able to walk up within 6 inches of it and know all the materials are just like the worn costume.
That said, there's plent of time for things to change, so I'd never cancel now unless I was only doing FlexPay, but with Sideshow's cancellation policy, there's no reason not to keep it on PO and see what happens, which is what I'll be doing.
Chavez, here ya go, a whole slew of images I posted way back.
Ok, so I dug into my image resources, and here's a selection of varying Anakin images to show the different tones of his costume as seen in various lighting conditions. What rings home with me is the darker tones under the robe, the whole idea was to transist Anakin towards Vader, with the AOTC costume being dark brown and the ROTS costume being nearly black. The tunic is a purplish dark brown that leans more towards black in most lighting, the tabbards are black and the sash around his waist is the same dark shade as the tunic, while his robe is dark brown but not as close to black as his tunic. Hasbro's first 3 3/4" figure I think perfectly capture the colors and for the most part, Sideshow's 1/6 figure did right, and their opt to use black material to capture the film lighting effect was the right course in my book. We can't replicate film lighting in our homes so taking measures against the bare bones design to capture both the base design and what was seen on screen is the best of both worlds for us.
I feel this photo here is what the color scheme for any ROTS Anakin/Vader product should be in the costume.
Ok so the robe is not ribbed,but I really think it looked accurate for the 1/4 scale Anakin.I think that you can't always mimic the material that's in the movie and you have to use what ever looks the best for that scale.The ribbed robe flowed and hung better than the stiff one that it's in the QTVR now.
Just look at the material that HT & Medicom uses it's not the same as in the movies,but it looks good for the scale.
Just look at the material that HT & Medicom uses it's not the same as in the movies,but it looks good for the scale.
Agreed..................
That's exactly what Irish and I were trying to explain to people early on, but there were some people that were very vocal and extremely dead set on it having to be 100% true to the film costume in every detail, and apparently as far as the robe, those voices may have been heard.
Even Sideshow doesn't use film materials in the 1/6 figures. Darth Maul PF uses the material like the 1:1 bust, true to the costume, but the 1/6 figure is a smooth material, but works better than the PF material would at that scale. The 1/6 Qui-Gon Jinn figure doesn't use the same material as the films in his tunic, but the used material has more weight to it and likely looks better than a thinner, more accurrate material would have. Sideshow has spoken plenty to the practice of choosing the right material to recreate the look of the source material. If they can use the source material and have it work, they do, but when something else works for the better, they opt for that. I personally don't collect anything outside of 1:1 scale looking for accurracy to the original stuff, I look for pieces that look and have the feel of the overall source material's appearnce.
Even Sideshow doesn't use film materials in the 1/6 figures. Darth Maul PF uses the material like the 1:1 bust, true to the costume, but the 1/6 figure is a smooth material, but works better than the PF material would at that scale. The 1/6 Qui-Gon Jinn figure doesn't use the same material as the films in his tunic, but the used material has more weight to it and likely looks better than a thinner, more accurrate material would have. Sideshow has spoken plenty to the practice of choosing the right material to recreate the look of the source material. If they can use the source material and have it work, they do, but when something else works for the better, they opt for that. I personally don't collect anything outside of 1:1 scale looking for accurracy to the original stuff, I look for pieces that look and have the feel of the overall source material's appearnce.
That's whats funny when people go off without thinking. Take a breath before tossing out garbage. Read the thread people and see what's going on.
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I prefer the first choice of material because it just looked overall better. The futzed version in the regular QTVR looks alright better than what they showed at first. I want them to look as close to the film as possible but look great on display at the same time.
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