Any Vegetarians on This Board?

[jinxx]

I wouldn't mind sinking my teeth on his rump roast!...

 

[vader70450]

Load the grill with fatty meat, put it on a bun and eat eat eat!

 

[tylerdurden]

...nothing like human tenderloin...

i'd buy that for a dollar!

"mr. sweeney todd sir, 2 pounds of breast and some rump too, please."

 

[The Ween]

I came across this article by accident. I have no idea how old it is.

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A group of Danish students have been kicked off Facebook for cooking and eating a cat.
The students, from the Danish School of Journalism in Aarhus, posted 30 pictures of themselves cooking and eating the animal, reports the Copenhagen Post.
But their protest, aimed at drawing attention to the way pigs and cattle are raised for meat, was slammed by the animal rights lobby.
The students say the cat was feral and had been shot by a farmer trying to control the number of cats on his land. They say it was killed humanely and prepared by a professional chef.
They said they were surprised by people's reactions and were 'disappointed' their Facebook profile was no longer accessible.
"We wanted people to think about what it was they were putting in their mouths," said Laura Bøge Mortensen, group member and the editor of a student magazine that carried an article about the meal.
"It's hypocritical for us to spend thousands on our pets, yet buy the cheapest pork from Netto that comes from pigs that have lived a horrid life. And just why is it that it's worse to eat a cat than a pig?"
But she admitted the group struggled to overcome reservations about eating an animal normally treated as a pet.
"We had to count to three before we sat down to eat, and I wouldn't really say that we stuffed our face. Everyone did take a bite though," she said, before revealing the taste was "a little like chicken, with an aftertaste of fur".
But Ole Münster, director of Denmark's version of the RSPCA, said: "This is the worst way to draw people's attention to animal welfare. The choice of a cat was an especially bad one, since we get most of our calls about them."

 

[Morbach]

Ewwwwwwwwww

 

[mr.thrifty]

I came across this article by accident. I have no idea how old it is.

<B><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="80%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=bottom><BIG>Students kicked off Facebook for eating a cat</BIG></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></B>
A group of Danish students have been kicked off Facebook for cooking and eating a cat.
The students, from the Danish School of Journalism in Aarhus, posted 30 pictures of themselves cooking and eating the animal, reports the Copenhagen Post.
But their protest, aimed at drawing attention to the way pigs and cattle are raised for meat, was slammed by the animal rights lobby.
The students say the cat was feral and had been shot by a farmer trying to control the number of cats on his land. They say it was killed humanely and prepared by a professional chef.
They said they were surprised by people's reactions and were 'disappointed' their Facebook profile was no longer accessible.
"We wanted people to think about what it was they were putting in their mouths," said Laura Bøge Mortensen, group member and the editor of a student magazine that carried an article about the meal.
"It's hypocritical for us to spend thousands on our pets, yet buy the cheapest pork from Netto that comes from pigs that have lived a horrid life. And just why is it that it's worse to eat a cat than a pig?"
But she admitted the group struggled to overcome reservations about eating an animal normally treated as a pet.
"We had to count to three before we sat down to eat, and I wouldn't really say that we stuffed our face. Everyone did take a bite though," she said, before revealing the taste was "a little like chicken, with an aftertaste of fur".
But Ole Münster, director of Denmark's version of the RSPCA, said: "This is the worst way to draw people's attention to animal welfare. The choice of a cat was an especially bad one, since we get most of our calls about them."

What's wrong with eating pu^^^?

 

[Bamboota]

What's wrong with eating pu^^^?

HARDY HARDY HAR!!!

That's messed up tho! No poosy for me! I only like sausage!

Especially Terminator sausage!

 

[devilof76]

I heard cat wasn't worth eating. Not only is it gamy and tough, they make much better company than food. It just makes no sense to eat them. They didn't make their point at all.

Why didn't they just eat a person? Because it's not the same. If they were a little more rational and a lot less self-righteous, they might have noticed that the same goes for cats. They are worth more alive than they are as cuisine.

 

[mr.thrifty]

HARDY HARDY HAR!!!

That's messed up tho! No poosy for me! I only like sausage!


Especially Terminator sausage!

I'm sure you do....... battery operated.....

 

[Anzik]

There is no such thing as a humane death in nature, animals are either ripped apart by some other animal or get sick and starve to death.
In the natural world there is no such thing as old age.

 

[devilof76]

People are desensitized by how little violence there actually is in human society. Compared to the rest of nature, we are radically peaceful.

 

[tylerdurden]

I came across this article by accident. I have no idea how old it is.

Students kicked off Facebook for eating a cat

But Ole Münster, director of Denmark's version of the RSPCA, said: "This is the worst way to draw people's attention to animal welfare. The choice of a cat was an especially bad one, since we get most of our calls about them."

hahahaha! the guy's name is munster!
is he related to herman?

ok, ok, lame i know.

 

[The Ween]

They took some really crude picture of the whole thing. Stupid way to make a point, IMO.

 

[Darth Cruel]

I think the new commercial with the subliminal vegetarian brain-washing where the two pigs are eating pork in a restaurant and say it is no worse than hidden cell phone charges went farther toward turning me away from eating meat.


And it didn't go very far toward that.

 

[GrueSam]

And Sam, I wasn't ignoring your post, I just didn't want to fuel an unnecessary fire. However I will touch on your post now that I am already doing what I didn't want to do.


Your proposition is not possible for me as my reasons for being a vegetarian are not only based on compassion for animals- although that is a large part of it. Red meat is terrible for you. Yes, many on here will probably post reports about how I am wrong as you can find anything on the internet but seriously, it's not healthy. A diet full of fresh fruit and vegetables makes me feel alert and very healthy. Since I have changed my diet I have only felt better. I haven't even gotten a sniffle since as opposed to my intermittent states of sickness on my other diet. Long story short I believe that a meatless or very low meat diet is a much healthier choice.

And to touch on my other reason for my diet, I do not like the idea of eating animals. You say that millions of animals are slaughtered due to harvesting and such but that is in sharp contrast to actually eating them... well in my opinion. I know others will disagree that's the internet. Some say that's hypocritical but everything in this life is grey and undefined.

I think many of you feel insecure or inadequate when a person tells you that they are a vegetarian. Like you are instantly a horrible person in their eyes which makes you lash out in defense. Honestly, most vegetarians know they are the minority and let you be on your way. Those negative feelings propagate a nasty relationship from the start. Respect for the decisions of others goes a long way even if you don't fully agree with them.

Peace

Rory- Firstly, sorry it took me so long to respond.

Secondly:

There is no fire from me- just a discussion on a discussion forum.
I love you!

But... You cannot make a blanket statement that red meat is terrible for you.

Yes- the majority of red meat that is consumed in America is unhealthy. It is over cooked or over processed with all kinds of chemicals, additives and hormones. It comes from factory farms where the animals live day and night in filthy conditions, are abused and fed a diet so inappropriate it's criminal.

There is no arguement on that from me.

And all of the above issues are resolved from purchasing meats/eggs/dairy from humane, grass based, sustainable farmers.


But most vegetarians feel better not necessarily because they've stopped eating red meat, but because they've stopped eating crap. They generally add more fruits and vegetables to their diet. They cut back on fried foods, processed foods and eat less junk. They become more aware.

Most, generally, rarely ate truly healthy to begin with: with good quality produce and meats before starting on their journey.

But, setting that aside, let's take a look at some things:

• There is a reason that our stomachs secrete hydrochloric acid: to digest animal flesh. Herbivores' stomachs don't.
• Our saliva is chemically different.
• Our gallbladders, which are for digesting animal fats, are completely different than a herbivore's. Horses don't even have one.
• Our pancreas is different.
• Our guts are 5 times shorter than a herbivore.
• There is a reason that different lengths of our intestines are at different pHs with different bacteria: to be omnivores.
• We do not have a 4-chamber stomach, like cows and deer.
• Nor do we have the huge cecums that are found in herbivores, like horses and gorillas.

But even herbivores consume protein. There is no such thing as a purely vegetarian animal.
Cows or any grazing animals consume huge amounts of insects.
And the 4th chamber of a ruminant's stomach is for cultivating and digesting large amounts of bacteria to keep their proteins level up. The high protein levels in milk must come from somewhere.
Gorillas which are thought to be purely vegetarian consume small animals and eggs. And lots of bugs/grubs.
Even hummingbirds will consume insects when needed.


If you were to take any animal out of the wild and change it's diet, you would be crazy to not expect illness or disease or cancer. Zookeepers and biologists spend years studying the diets of wild animals in order to have healthy animals in captivity.

Yet we have done this ourselves. Generally, our diets look nothing like what we were designed to eat.
So if you want to be truly healthy, you must look to indiginous peoples.

And there has never been any "wild" completely vegetarian tribes.
The vegetarians found in the world have done so for religious reasons and, even then, their dairy products are from animals out in the sun, eating their natural diet and not from factory-farms. Their products are mostly cultured and/or raw.

There are many books with hidden, and not so hidden, agendas that would like you to believe otherwise. (Hey, the soy industry is #3 in this country after cotton and corn and would LOVE to become #1. Their propaganda is so misguided that recently the courts decided they were no longer allowed to put "heart-healthy" on their products... because they're not!)

If anyone is truly interested in human diet and health, I strongly urge them to read Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Dr. Price.
Written in 1939, the man had no agenda- he was a dentist!

https://www.amazon.com/Nutrition-Physical-Degeneration-Weston-Price/dp/0916764206



So, Rory, In My Most Not So Humble Opinion, in order for vegetarians to claim that red meat is unhealthy, they must also be saying that mankind has gotten it all wrong for the last 200,000 years or more and that they are wiser than God or Mother Nature, because some of our organs and digestive systems are unnecessary.

And that, IMO, be some mighty bold words.


-samantha

 

[-Super Hans-]

I try to eat as little meat as possible, mainly because of the way things are done. I dont agree with "manufacturing" animals for the sole purpose of food and the terrible way they are kept so its usually free range once a week. But I wont ever cut meat entirely out of my diet for fears of becoming a giant ?????.

 

[Darth Cruel]

I think there are a great many more important issues facing the human race today than how our food is processed. I wish some of you would aim your crusades in a more critical direction like helping to raise awareness in parents to better protect their children from child predators, or march to raise money to help find a cure for cancer or H.I.V.

These shallow, self-seving idealisms could be addressed farther down the line when the more critical ones have been dealt with.

 

[Morbach]

I think there are a great many more important issues facing the human race today than how our food is processed. I wish some of you would aim your crusades in a more critical direction like helping to raise awareness in parents to better protect their children from child predators, or march to raise money to help find a cure for cancer or H.I.V. These shallow, self-seving idealisms could be addressed farther down the line when the more critical ones have been dealt with.

I totally agree with you.

 

[GrueSam]

Ahhhhhhh... but those who eat closest to a natural diet prevent illness, cancers and diseases, including H.I.V.

And supporting one's own health and the health of their family while at the same time creating agriculture that actually benefits our society, our economy and the environment is not quite so shallow.

https://www.eatwild.com/

 

[Darth Cruel]

Ahhhhhhh... but those who eat closest to a natural diet prevent illness, cancers and diseases, including H.I.V.

And supporting one's own health and the health of their family while at the same time creating agriculture that actually benefits our society, our economy and the environment is not quite so shallow.

https://www.eatwild.com/

Don't misundestand me. I am not saying that eating healthy is bad. I am simply saying that expending effort and resource to crusade for an issue can be a great deal more impacting and helpful if those efforts and resources are aimed at more critical issues.

You will never convince me that saving 1 million chicks from the grinder is a deeper issue than saving a single innocent 5-year-old child from being brutalized and butchered at the hands of a maniac in a case where it could have been avoided simply by educating the parent in security. There are thousands of things that could be addressed because they are more important than animals that, in the grand scheme of things, exist for nothing more than to be eaten by us or some wild animal.

Eating healthy and healthy feeding of family is not even on the same scale of priority as a great many issues that have a more severe and immediate impact on the world. Hell, even the new flu virus running around is more important...but at least that one is being tackled. We can get around to the less immediately critical issues once we take care of the ones higher up on the priority list.

But I think we would have to have a pretty Utopian society before protecting food animals gets to climb anywhere near the top.