Making mental note in head. Any suggested songs on your playlist? My wife likes country but I'm guessing something a little faster paced would be better?
Flight of the Bumblebee.
Making mental note in head. Any suggested songs on your playlist? My wife likes country but I'm guessing something a little faster paced would be better?
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Dammit I know that song but can't think of it. Being Christmas do you think "O Come All Ye Faithful" would work?Flight of the Bumblebee.
Do you ever wonder if everything in life is somehow connected?
It is all connected.
Although if it's feces infested, there's a big problem somewhere or your about an inch and a half to far south.
Need food to live and if i have to eat like a rabbit then **** that for a laugh.
Well, the Hunzas eat meat once a year, and consume goat milk somewhat regularly. Otherwise, they eat a vegan diet. The Vivacabambans, and the Abkaisans eat very little meat, I mean a handful of times a year at most. Otherwise, they eat a little milk. None of these people's diets are religiously motivated, that I am aware of. It is simply a frugal use of limited resources. Even if there WERE no indigenous people who ate a vegan diet, that wouldn't really answer the basic question. The basic question is, can it be done on a log term basis, successfully, and the answer is, at the very LEAST, that dropping ones consumption of animal products to less than 10% of one's diet is what gives indigenous peoples the greatest longevity, and that there are people like Gary Null, who has basically been a vegan (except he eats honey) for decades, and still race walks and runs marathons at the highest levels and wins, which he has done for decades. He has been world champion at race walking a number of times. Look at Dave Scott, who won the Iron Man 6 times. He ate no meat.
Not a good arguement.Even if there WERE no indigenous people who ate a vegan diet, that wouldn't really answer the basic question. The basic question is, can it be done on a log term basis, successfully,
Maybe meat eaters like turd jokes so much because there is crap in meat, because it is colon germs that tenderize the meat when it is being processed before butchering. When you eat meat, you are literally eating crap, and the uric acid in the meat is basically the urine of the animal you are eating. It's not just an animal issue, it's a grossness issue. They say you are what you eat. Hmmm. Look, if you aren't really interested in vegetarianism, why even post in the thread? For example, I don't post in the LOTR thread, because I'm not interested in the LOTR. Nothing against it, just not really into it.
Humans and cows may have the same raw materials but an ungulate's body is infinitely more adept at assimilating nutrients from plant matter than ours. And they consume huge amounts of insects while grazing and the bacteria and protozoa that they've cultured in their 3 stomach chambers get digested in their 4th to keep their protein levels up.Have you actually TRIED a top vegan dish made by a top chef of all organic ingredients? I doubt it. You are speculating. You don't know what you are talking about. Think of this: What is meat? a combination of elements in particular proportions that determine its properties, like flavor, texture, ect. There is no reason why you could not come up with a combination of vegetable elements that mimics meat. After all, the COW did it, to make it's flesh. If a COW can combine vegetable ingredients to make something that tastes like flesh, because it IS flesh, there is no reason why human beings cannot do the same, because both humans and cows have the same raw materials to work with. What I'm in essence saying, is that there is no reason why human beings cannot come up with a meat substitute, or a meat analog made out of vegetable matter, unless you lack the intelligence to do so. Everything on Earth is made up of the periodic table of elements. Look at the big picture. Besides, WE as human beings are BETTER than animals, and as such, I believe we can do ANYTHING they can do, and do it BETTER, WITHOUT their help!
Bad genetics is caused by bad health habits, which was proven by the Nova program on epigenetics that I mentioned earlier. Enough generations of bad health habits equals genetic defects. Your father was one of those people who CLEARLY had bad health habits. He had TWO heart attacks? That's a failure. If you told me he had NO heart attacks or strokes, or had no serious health problems his entire life, that would mean only that his ancestors over most of the generations had good enough health habits to pass on good strong genetics.
Waitresses have gotten lung cancer and they don't even smoke. They got it from second hand smoke.
Again, bad genes ARE CAUSED by bad health habits, which is to say human actions, over many generations. Cause=effect.
But the first thing indiginous peoples fed/feed their babies is either raw meats or raw egg yolks, not carrot.If given a rabbit and a carrot, most babies will pet the rabbit, and eat the carrot, and not the other way around. Therefore, meat eating is conditioned.
No.Basically the reason why you like a steak is because you were conditioned to. A lot of people after they turn vegetarian, after they have broken through their conditioning, feel sick at the smell of cooking meat. That should tell you something. If they hadn't been conditioned to like meat at first, they wouldn't have ever liked it.
By the way, I'm not denying the tastes that meat or beef has. It has the salty sweet tangy salty taste that is very appealing to people, and so is.addictive to people. I'm saying the exact taste of meat is horrible, because of what it is, which is a mucus, snotty, slimy, urine feces infested muck that I don't want in my body. It is death and cow-ness, and I don't want death OR cow-ness in my body. The idea of cow-ness inside my body disgusts me. I don't care if it's the best tasting stuff on Earth. I Still wouldn't eat it. I don't care if it was 100 times better tasting than the best vegan dish, or even one million times better tasting. The fact that it is slimy, snotty, urine soaked, feces filled dead cow-ness causes me to find the stuff too disgusting to put in my body. Of course, when you add to that all the diseases it causes when you eat it, there is no way I am ever eating that crap again.
devilof76 brought UP the subject way out of left field.
To both Sam and Devil76. I didn't buy 95% of the stuff Blackthorne was peddling but you both had the knowledge and you took the time to post some damning arguments that if I had tried to post would have failed at. BRAVO.Whoa. Hey Sam.
Sam and devil handed out some ownage there. Right on.
It seemed to me that the issue we were discussing was one of natural habits( which is to say evolution) or conditioning. Conditioning is a result of learning. It was out of left field because you brought up a subject unrelated to vegetarianism. Conditioning vs learning is a different topic. I agree with your differentiation between conditioning vs learning, but a lot of people do some things so automatically, that they are basically on auto pilot, engaging in conditioned behavior. But that is all beside the point.I'm in an exceptionally bad mood as of late, and it irks the living piss out of me that I have to articulate this, but out of respect for the people who have been subject to your contributions in this thread, I'll make the effort.
1) There was nothing out of left field in my post. You stated that a baby's eating habits were indicative of what an adult's should be, so I asked you if an adult's excretory habits should be what a baby's are. Then you dumped a pretentious post about how primitive people don't wear pants, and that their women have nothing better to do than raise children, and then indulged yourself with a happy little collectivist *** at Western society having inferior bonds between mother and child (all points which not only served to evade my question, but also failed to change the point I made). Whether a mother spends the mental energy required to prevent her child from voiding itself as an infant, or as a toddler, is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the behavior is not conditioned it is learned.
human beings need amino acids to make its own protein. Animal protein must first be broken down into their basic amino acids and then converted into human protein.As for protein, animal protein is better for humans in that it contains the amino acids we need ready made. Again, the body must expend extra effort to convert plant proteins into usable amino acids.
Meat also contains animal fat (who would have guessed) and as it were, your body needs fat. Do you figure that lipids designed for plants work better in a body requiring the services of animal fat?
4) If the only point to consumption is the maintenance of life, why not simply relegate yourself to a diet of purified supplements? Can't you get everything your body needs just as well from powdered nutrients? Why eat at all? I'm sure something intravenous can be contrived. We have now advanced to the point that we know the precise positive and negative effects of nearly any dietary decision. Shouldn't we just cut out the middle man and abandon eating as another benign primitve habit, conditioned from our centuries spent as ignorant food addicts?
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