Did you ever here of the term "jumping the shark"? Your post, they just did it. In fact Spock, I think your post are getting more "illogical" as we go.
People aren't conditioned to like a candy bar, an ice cream cone, a potato chip. We like them because they are damn tasty.
Most responsible parents try to "condition" their kids to like vegetables, some, if not a lot fail. It's not because they have a chemical taste to them or pesticides are used. It's because those who don't like them think they taste "icky". Good rule of thumb here. Sometimes the easiest answer is the correct one.
The term "conditioning" that you keep bringing up is laughable. I smoked from the time I was 18 till about 35. Are you saying my parents would give me a little toke when I was an infant in the hopes that I would get hooked later on it life. Or is it the much more obvious answer that I wanted to try it, liked it so much that if I wasn't scared so much of lung cancer I would still be doing it today. God how I miss smoking.
Same thing with beer. I love me a good beer now, in fact the older I get, the more I like it. Didn't care so much when I was younger though. My parents didn't condition me to like beer did they?
You're making this much to hard. We get it, you like vegetables very much. But you're not going to get myself, and apparently others in this thread to believe that some vegetable product that has been pureed, steamed, roasted or however you choose to prepare it is going to taste as good as a juicy steak cooked on a grill. Aint gonna happen. You even suggested that I some how "lack the intelligence" to make a vegetarian dish taste as good as a meat dish. It's not a lack of intelligence to know what your body likes is it?
All of that has nothing to do with what I wrote in my last post.
By the way, I always hated cigarette smoke, AND beer. They both taste horrible. Fine wine is not so bad tasting, but I realized that when I drank 180 proof ouzu that when it tasted and felt like poison in my body, that logically, all other alcoholic beverages were also poisonous, and so it was unwise to drink any alcohol.
You interpret the tastes your body tastes with your mind, NOT your body. Your body doesn't know what tastes good. Only your mind, really.
I also said that if someone really liked the taste of meat, despite what it represents is death, that if they wanted something that tasted like meat, they could make a substitute if they had the creativity to do so, because meat is made up of the same stuff in vegetables, because it is made FROM vegetables, by the animal. Don't tell me you don't think you can make a more delicious dish than a COW can. To me, that's just embarrassing.
Some tastes are appealing, which are basic tastes that various things have, like sweet, salty, tangy, bitter, astringent, and fatty. Meat has some of them, but so do plants. It seems to me that there is no reason why an even better combination of tastes couldn't be come up with just plants.
Again, you avoided what I brought up in my last post entirely, about how the liking of various things is subconsciously motivated, by by influences we haven't even identified.
By the way, I'm not denying the tastes that meat or beef has. It has the salty sweet tangy salty taste that is very appealing to people, and so is.addictive to people. I'm saying the exact taste of meat is horrible, because of what it is, which is a mucus, snotty, slimy, urine feces infested muck that I don't want in my body. It is death and cow-ness, and I don't want death OR cow-ness in my body. The idea of cow-ness inside my body disgusts me. I don't care if it's the best tasting stuff on Earth. I Still wouldn't eat it. I don't care if it was 100 times better tasting than the best vegan dish, or even one million times better tasting. The fact that it is slimy, snotty, urine soaked, feces filled dead cow-ness causes me to find the stuff too disgusting to put in my body. Of course, when you add to that all the diseases it causes when you eat it, there is no way I am ever eating that crap again.