Anyone considered picking up Hot Toys due to Re-releases of previous characters?

[KillerCam251]

I totally agree it would suck like Nam mentioned, I wasn't saying you would blame yourself in particular I just meant the people who want to look to someone else as if it's their fault they paid so much. I only pay for what I am comfortable with as well which puts some of my figures Id love to add to my collection on the unobtainable list

 

[Gage]

How would you both feel if you'd paid $600+ for a limited edition figure and then less than a year after owning it, HT releases a better version for 1/3rd the price? While first impulse is to front like it wouldn't bother you at all, admit it, it would suck.

It would suck. But if someone payed 600+ for a figure. Than it was worth the price to them. Can't have any regrets.

 

[thenammagazine]

And then insult is added to injury when you can't even sell off the one you forked out $600+ for, at even the original retail price, to upgrade. So you're left with the disgrace of knowing you overpaid for a now worthless figure and keep him, reminded of your foolishness every time you look at him. Or you either sell him for chump change and upgrade or keep him and upgrade having one good version and one box warmer, spending even more money to have the figure you initially wanted to own - the best version of the character that made you initially drop $600+ in the first place. Now while I'd say anybody who forks out that much should be ready to take it in the *** like that, I can still understand why they'd be upset.

 

[Lejuan]

This "Hot Toys looks at the aftermarket sales" stuff sounds like bollocks to me. They just make what makes the most money at any given time. There's no HT rep checking out Ebay for the future strategy of the company. That's something the fan boys make up in their heads..

I disagree. A company as successful as HT knows exactly what is going on in the aftermarket, and it shouldn't come as any surprise that they should capitalise on opportunities that present themselves there. I doubt they'd have re-released Mk 1 if it was fetching MSRP on eBay.

 

[The Skull]

Re-releases are really a good thing for the most part, I mean really if its something thats worth re-doing even the people who have the first one may want a better version and people who missed out get a second chance. I'm not one to buy hot toys on the aftermarket though, I buy mine at time of release so even if a newer version comes along even most older hot toys don't sell for less than there orginal retail.

Take the dx10 for instants, when released it made the mms117 version drop in price from like 400-500 hundred to 200-300, still over retail. I'm not one to sell off the older releases just to have the new one though, I have a couple of times but not often, mainly keep most of what I got.

 

[Lejuan]

Now while I'd say anybody who forks out that much should be ready to take it in the *** like that, I can still understand why they'd be upset.

Having an OC Bats with solid ankles and a good suit eases the pain of the $400 purchase price, but it was still a lesson learned when BB Bats was brought out. No more so-called grail hunting for me

 

[Mr Walker]

And then insult is added to injury when you can't even sell off the one you forked out $600+ for, at even the original retail price, to upgrade. So you're left with the disgrace of knowing you overpaid for a now worthless figure and keep him, reminded of your foolishness every time you look at him. Or you either sell him for chump change and upgrade or keep him and upgrade having one good version and one box warmer, spending even more money to have the figure you initially wanted to own - the best version of the character that made you initially drop $600+ in the first place. Now while I'd say anybody who forks out that much should be ready to take it in the *** like that, I can still understand why they'd be upset.

You seem very insistent people be upset.

 

[NASEDO]

Well I'm back collecting HT figures. Had to get the Avengers. But quailty is too good to hate.

 

[Lejuan]

You seem very insistent people be upset.

I think he's just clarifying the very natural response that many have to unexpectedly finding themselves with something that's worth a lot less than what they paid for it.

 

[thenammagazine]

I think he's just clarifying the very natural response that many have to unexpectedly finding themselves with something that's worth a lot less than what they paid for it.

And judging by the sheer number of HT rant threads on these boards, it's not hard to see that I'm right.

 

[Mr Walker]

And judging by the sheer number of HT rant threads on these boards, it's not hard to see that I'm right.

Then those people shouldn't have bought those figures, should they. Either that, or there are too many people here who still think of these as some sort of tradable commodity to make money from rather than the purchase of a toy.

 

[siquisiri]

Joker 5.0 baby!!

 

[thenammagazine]

Then those people shouldn't have bought those figures, should they. Either that, or there are too many people here who still think of these as some sort of tradable commodity to make money from rather than the purchase of a toy.

In all fairness, I'll be nice since you're a newb. 4-5 years ago, all these companies had a staunch policy about not rehashing territory already tromped. That behavior was left to the likes of NECA, Hasbro, Mattel, etc., and separated the kiddie collecting from the high-end limited edition collectibles. It had nothing to do with "making money" as much as it did knowing that the limited edition collectible you bought was worth more than just nostalgia. The flippers who bought as an investment, deserve what they got. Collectors expecting value in an expensive collection, not so much.

 

[Mr Walker]

In all fairness, I'll be nice since you're a newb. 4-5 years ago, all these companies had a staunch policy about not rehashing territory already tromped. That behavior was left to the likes of NECA, Hasbro, Mattel, etc., and separated the kiddie collecting from the high-end limited edition collectibles. It had nothing to do with "making money" as much as it did knowing that the limited edition collectible you bought was worth more than just nostalgia. The flippers who bought as an investment, deserve what they got. Collectors expecting value in an expensive collection, not so much.

No need to be condescending. I've been collecting a long long time. Probably longer than some of these forum members have been alive.

The value, in any collection, is what you find in it. People should be more comfortable with that than they are. Too many people expect things like them being "worth more than just nostalgia". You expect that, just causes problems down the line.

 

[a-dev]

I don't think this thread should be deleted. Its a fair question.

I think this thread is still around because of this post.

I'm even half serious. If a mod had seen this first he probably would have just deleted it immediately thinking it was just EVILFACE doing his thing again. But the question is fair because, yes, I'm sure some people are buying HT because of the rereleases of characters they missed previously.

 

[devilof76]

Most people would only pay that if it was either pay the crazy price, or not ever get the figure. Then HT comes around and reissues it and you ended up paying too much for the first version. Most people don't like wasting their money, but I guess you're the exception

Paying crazy prices is only a waste if years later you wouldn't have had to? Ok.

 

[Lejuan]

Paying crazy prices is only a waste if years later you wouldn't have had to? Ok.

There were a few people who shelled out upwards of $6-700 on Mk 1 in the days before 2.0 was announced. Imagine the jubilation of winning the eBay auction for the crazy-low price of $560... and before it's even marked as shipped the newly minted 2.0 thread appears

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

Why would anyone here that isn't a millionaire be willing to fork $600 plus on what is essentially a ****in toy?? If you missed it down the road, well, you know what? Be patient, because now you know how HT works as a company. Look at the recently announced scar predator. You know how much the original is going for aftermarket? I saw some douche list him for $3000 plus...are any of you here willing to fork out that much for plastic?? Are any of you here that much of a diehard fan that rather than spend the money on something useful and productive, you'd blow it on a effin toy??

There are two kinds of people that are extreme enough to spend that kind of cash. 1- rich people. 2- richer people.

I was into collecting dragon ball z action figures back then. When I wasn't able to complete my set, I was bummed. I searched high and low for a few figures and when located, the prices went far, far beyond what they originally went for. I had the cash, but I wasn't gonna plunk down that astronomical figure for some g'damn toys. So I waited and waited...guess what? The d-arts line dropped and boom, I was back in business with far better figures.

These kinds of discussion happen often, and when I chime in, I always say the same thing...if you're a fan of a particular line, you'd be happy with your purchases no matter what. If they came out with an update of the figure, an 'HD' version if you will, you'd buy it anyway because its still in your price realm, and because GASP! You're a fan of it to begin with!

I never hear anyone crying about the old Kenner Star Wars 12" figs. SSC, while still not in the league of HT, came out with better realizations of the heroes and villains. Did they make the Kenner line obsolete? I mean, by your reasoning, the value shoulda dropped right?

Value in TOYS really shouldn't be judged by how much value they gain over the years. They should be based through your own eyes.

There's also that jealous, selfish mentality as well. Jealous that someone else either owns or is gong to own an updated version of a certain item. Selfish in the sense where (Cartman voice) "now there are gonna be other people who own this figure too? LLLLAME".

These are toys. Expensive toys. People with disposable income. If you find yourself debating whether to spend the money on food for your family or buying the next HT figure...you really ought to reevaluate yourself.

I'm for getting updates. I missed out on some figs for various reasons. Either it didn't look good (early pred line, the heads were massive), or the figure came from a less than stellar movie (avp line again...but now I own the preds from predators, I'm itching to buy some more preds)...I would like to buy what is basically an HD update. Getting more people into collecting isn't a bad thing either.

Now if only we can get HT to adjust their ridiculous prices....

 

[Solarsailor]

I disagree. A company as successful as HT knows exactly what is going on in the aftermarket, and it shouldn't come as any surprise that they should capitalise on opportunities that present themselves there. I doubt they'd have re-released Mk 1 if it was fetching MSRP on eBay.

The Mk 1 being an Iron man figure though right?? Iron man that's launched 2 current sequels and starred in the Avengers and also has a massive line of figures to collect...

Had they re-issued Blade then I think you'd have a case but really they are just re-issuing what sells in the current climate. I don't think they look at particular figures or even what fans want, just particular well known brands and popular lines that make the most $

The only other re-issue's would come from popular lines that just sell well consistently - like both The Terminator and Predator brands.

I mean what have HT's re-released that's not going to be a banker?? (serious question I'm really not sure).

From memory - Batman, Joker, Terminator , Predator and Iron Man all seem like sure fire bets to me. There's no risk there at all.

I'm not sure dude, you could be right but I just can't see them giving a rats what people want on Ebay.

 

[Lejuan]

Yeh, true, I guess a re-release of Blade or Leo or Godfather would be more revealing of their strategy.