Anyone considered picking up Hot Toys due to Re-releases of previous characters?

[Solarsailor]

Yeh, true, I guess a re-release of Blade or Leo or Godfather would be more revealing of their strategy.

If only they'd re-release blade.... That's one of my most wanted.

I'll be damned if I'm paying over $350 for a Hot Toy though... I could stretch it to $300

 

[DVD1]

I've seen Blade in store here. That was last week. It's been a couple of months since I have seen a Godfather. Leo is still kicking around in a couple of places.
These have yet to sell out, tho, I've been tempted to pick up Blade.
The reissue thing, as pointed out, is down to viable markets. Avengers shows no sign of drying up. Nor does Bats. Speaking of which, if it wasnt so cold out, I'd wander down to the store and see if the Joker 2.0 was in yet!

 

[Solarsailor]

I've seen Blade in store here. That was last week. It's been a couple of months since I have seen a Godfather. Leo is still kicking around in a couple of places.
These have yet to sell out, tho, I've been tempted to pick up Blade.
The reissue thing, as pointed out, is down to viable markets. Avengers shows no sign of drying up. Nor does Bats. Speaking of which, if it wasnt so cold out, I'd wander down to the store and see if the Joker 2.0 was in yet!

Ebay is the only way for most folk and they fetch crazy prices. You occasionally see the odd blade and leo pop up in the sales section but most people prefer only US buyers.

 

[ebor]

They (hot toys) are testing us (collectors) to see what our limits are for buying their product. The IM hall of armors is the latest test to see who will bite. Many will despite the bhitching and knashing of teeth that is happening. I am all for picking up item that I missed the first time, if it's better. $ be dammed. There are more wasteful things in life then enjoyment in your toys. Does a collector of ferrari's ***** and moan when a better, faster car comes out?, no they buy the car.

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

They (hot toys) are testing us (collectors) to see what our limits are for buying their product. The IM hall of armors is the latest test to see who will bite. Many will despite the bhitching and knashing of teeth that is happening. I am all for picking up item that I missed the first time, if it's better. $ be dammed. There are more wasteful things in life then enjoyment in your toys. Does a collector of ferrari's ***** and moan when a better, faster car comes out?, no they buy the car.

Well,yeah, at least the faster better car is a friggin car, whereas the HoA is a effin display stand that lights up. It's not even in the same category.

It's like a Ferrari owner paying Ferrari prices for a ****ing cup holder!

 

[devilof76]

There were a few people who shelled out upwards of $6-700 on Mk 1 in the days before 2.0 was announced. Imagine the jubilation of winning the eBay auction for the crazy-low price of $560... and before it's even marked as shipped the newly minted 2.0 thread appears

I'd feel like a maroon and I'd be right.

Subsequently, as a total maroon, I'd blame Hot Toys so I wouldn't have to admit to being one.

 

[fosing]

Robocop. Robocop. Robocop.

but if they're gonna give us that sweded shat cop. i'm gonna start mailing my **** to HT headquarters.

 

[Rzeznikk]

I want the HT Predator 2 Elder Predator, but Im not going to pay the ridiculous asking prices for him. Ill wait for the 2.0.

Why would anyone here that isn't a millionaire be willing to fork $600 plus on what is essentially a ****in toy?? If you missed it down the road, well, you know what? Be patient, because now you know how HT works as a company. Look at the recently announced scar predator. You know how much the original is going for aftermarket? I saw some douche list him for $3000 plus...are any of you here willing to fork out that much for plastic?? Are any of you here that much of a diehard fan that rather than spend the money on something useful and productive, you'd blow it on a effin toy??
There are two kinds of people that are extreme enough to spend that kind of cash. 1- rich people. 2- richer people.

I was into collecting dragon ball z action figures back then. When I wasn't able to complete my set, I was bummed. I searched high and low for a few figures and when located, the prices went far, far beyond what they originally went for. I had the cash, but I wasn't gonna plunk down that astronomical figure for some g'damn toys. So I waited and waited...guess what? The d-arts line dropped and boom, I was back in business with far better figures.

These kinds of discussion happen often, and when I chime in, I always say the same thing...if you're a fan of a particular line, you'd be happy with your purchases no matter what. If they came out with an update of the figure, an 'HD' version if you will, you'd buy it anyway because its still in your price realm, and because GASP! You're a fan of it to begin with!

I never hear anyone crying about the old Kenner Star Wars 12" figs. SSC, while still not in the league of HT, came out with better realizations of the heroes and villains. Did they make the Kenner line obsolete? I mean, by your reasoning, the value shoulda dropped right?

Value in TOYS really shouldn't be judged by how much value they gain over the years. They should be based through your own eyes.

There's also that jealous, selfish mentality as well. Jealous that someone else either owns or is gong to own an updated version of a certain item. Selfish in the sense where (Cartman voice) "now there are gonna be other people who own this figure too? LLLLAME".

These are toys. Expensive toys. People with disposable income. If you find yourself debating whether to spend the money on food for your family or buying the next HT figure...you really ought to reevaluate yourself.

I'm for getting updates. I missed out on some figs for various reasons. Either it didn't look good (early pred line, the heads were massive), or the figure came from a less than stellar movie (avp line again...but now I own the preds from predators, I'm itching to buy some more preds)...I would like to buy what is basically an HD update. Getting more people into collecting isn't a bad thing either.

Now if only we can get HT to adjust their ridiculous prices....

 

[Kiva]

I hope Hot Toys keep remaking figures they've already made. I got into them for Predator and RE figures. If every 2 years they announce they are going to re-do a figure that i already have because their ability to nail clothing, headculpts and extras has improved ill be all for it. Ill just sell the one i have on for the upgrade.

Im not one of thoes people who think their collection is an extension of their ego and post pictures of their rarities to convince themselves into thinking their envied because they have figures worth $600 in the aftermarket. Then feel like they are not the cool kids anymore because their collection is now out dated and the people who didnt have the figures are getting a better one for 1/3 of the price.

Keep them coming HT. I've got a wholeee list of outdated figures that are over priced in the secondary market that i would buy if remade and upgraded. Lets see some new Colonial marines, some new Aliens, new Rocky and such.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Why remake Blade when they can do a Blade 1 or Blade Trinity instead?

 

[Rzeznikk]

When I first started collecting HT, this was my mentality too. I figured eh what the hell, if a better version comes out, Ill just sell my existing one and get the new one, but its becoming tiring. Id like to just get one and be done and move onto something else. So far I have upgraded:

-Predator MMS90 to Classic
-T2 T-800 MMS117 to DX10
-DX01 Joker to DX11
-DX02 Batman to DX12
-Captain America TFA to Captain America Avengers version
-Iron Man Mark III to Iron Man Mark IV to Iron Man Mark VII
-AWE Jack Sparrow to DX06

Am I or will I be happier with the newer versions? Most definitely, but still you can see where this trend can get a little annoying.

But at the same time, Im excited to be able to get recent releases that are far out of my reach price wise that they are taking another shot at. Robocop. Rocky. Etc.

I hope Hot Toys keep remaking figures they've already made. I got into them for Predator and RE figures. If every 2 years they announce they are going to re-do a figure that i already have because their ability to nail clothing, headculpts and extras has improved ill be all for it. Ill just sell the one i have on for the upgrade.
Im not one of thoes people who think their collection is an extension of their ego and post pictures of their rarities to convince themselves into thinking their envied because they have figures worth $600 in the aftermarket. Then feel like they are not the cool kids anymore because their collection is now out dated and the people who didnt have the figures are getting a better one for 1/3 of the price.

Keep them coming HT. I've got a wholeee list of outdated figures that are over priced in the secondary market that i would buy if remade and upgraded. Lets see some new Colonial marines, some new Aliens, new Rocky and such.

 

[Kiva]

When I first started collecting HT, this was my mentality too. I figured eh what the hell, if a better version comes out, Ill just sell my existing one and get the new one, but its becoming tiring. Id like to just get one and be done and move onto something else. So far I have upgraded:

-Predator MMS90 to Classic
-T2 T-800 MMS117 to DX10
-DX01 Joker to DX11
-DX02 Batman to DX12
-Captain America TFA to Captain America Avengers version
-Iron Man Mark III to Iron Man Mark IV to Iron Man Mark VII
-AWE Jack Sparrow to DX06

Am I or will I be happier with the newer versions? Most definitely, but still you can see where this trend can get a little annoying.

But at the same time, Im excited to be able to get recent releases that are far out of my reach price wise that they are taking another shot at. Robocop. Rocky. Etc.

I've been "collecting" for about 19 years now, started at an early age because of 2 older brothers who collected. It just comes to me as natural to see upgrades coming along.

I dont mind taking 10 minutes out of my life to take some pictures for ebay and sell something i need to shift to make room for a newer one.

The only downside about upgrades is when it comes to Upgrades of DX's. You would think that if you had the DX Joker and Dark Knight you would be safe.

 

[Rzeznikk]

Indeed. I started young to, I used to collect the old McFarlane Movie Maniacs then NECA came along and Sideshow then Hot Toys etc. So newer "better" versions were always coming, but at the lower prices it wasnt as big a deal to pick up a newer, better version. Now at over $200 a pop its kinda a bigger deal to re-buy, and like you said, if a DX release comes out then that should be the End All Be All version, at least from that respectful company.

I've been "collecting" for about 19 years now, started at an early age because of 2 older brothers who collected. It just comes to me as natural to see upgrades coming along. The only downside about upgrades is when it comes to Upgrades of DX's. You would think that if you had the DX Joker and Dark Knight you would be safe.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

When I first started collecting HT, this was my mentality too. I figured eh what the hell, if a better version comes out, Ill just sell my existing one and get the new one, but its becoming tiring. Id like to just get one and be done and move onto something else.

This is where i am, not only does all of the discussion in the figure thread and the excitement over the figure become a waste of time (since one doesn't even keep the figure) but it's less of a fun experience when continously selling and buying to have the best version.

When spending a good amount of cash on a figure or statue i need to have a personal investment in the product. Selling the V1 and buying a V2 only to sell the V2 to buy a V3 sucks away that personal attatchment and it becomes not something special but something temporary that is just filler until a better one comes along.

Where is the excitement and appreciation in getting a unique product if you know you'll just sell it off for a revised version?

So i pretty much only buy collectibles which haven't been done before as they're new and exciting not familiar and temporary.

My order list contains only ones i haven't got or haven't been made, so i'm in for a special time when opening them

I understand the want for figures that are old and could do with a new version like the Colonial Marines as they were done many, many years ago & only that once.

My only objection to remake and re-releaees and new versions of the same characters is that they get in the way of original products, and most of the time aren't in need of a new version as the current are still great products and can be bought if people want them

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[Kiva]

Where is the excitement and appreciation in getting a unique product if you know you'll just sell it off for a revised version?

but this begs the question, why did you buy the product in the first place?
Did you buy it because you wanted the best representation (in whatever particular form it is) in which case wouldnt you be happy that an even superior product comes out? And its not like you are paying £200 over again, you are selling your current and often getting more than enough to cover the price of the new one.

I can only understand sentimental attachment to an item if it was from a family member, or something special happened around the time i bought the item. But i cant just get sentimentally attached just to the figure, only to what the figure represents.

(not having a go at your ideals, just trying to see where the sentiment lays)

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

but this begs the question, why did you buy the product in the first place?
Did you buy it because you wanted the best representation (in whatever particular form it is) in which case wouldnt you be happy that an even superior product comes out? And its not like you are paying £200 over again, you are selling your current and often getting more than enough to cover the price of the new one.

I can only understand sentimental attachment to an item if it was from a family member, or something special happened around the time i bought the item. But i cant just get sentimentally attached just to the figure, only to what the figure represents.

(not having a go at your ideals, just trying to see where the sentiment lays)

I guess the hobby isn't about chasing down the latest greatest version but instead about having something be special and one-of-a-kind, at least most of the time.

I suppose my problem is that HT and the majority of their customers have changed over time and i haven't, whereas they want the same characters dones again and again as the industry learns and gets better, i am still at that point when i first started buying from them...

I saw the iron Man MK 2 and thought it was an amazing figure and there had never been done before, it was unique and special, then i saw others that hadn't been done before and got were brand new, i chased down a few older ones and got them too. So i still want characters that haven't been done before rather than characters i have on my shelf being done again.

It's not a bad position, just one that isn't in line with what the majority want i suppose.

If MMS198 was either A) a brand new character that's never been done before or B) different costumed or updated version of the same character that has been done already, then i'd chose 'A' 9 times out of 10.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

The only downside about upgrades is when it comes to Upgrades of DX's. You would think that if you had the DX Joker and Dark Knight you would be safe.

The upgrade thing doesn't bother me because I don't buy enough these days for it to really affect me, but I do find the upgrading of DX's strange. DX is supposed to be the ultimate version, upgrading them makes the DX tag superfluous.

 

[KillerCam251]

When I first started collecting HT, this was my mentality too. I figured eh what the hell, if a better version comes out, Ill just sell my existing one and get the new one, but its becoming tiring. Id like to just get one and be done and move onto something else. So far I have upgraded:

-Predator MMS90 to Classic
-T2 T-800 MMS117 to DX10
-DX01 Joker to DX11
-DX02 Batman to DX12
-Captain America TFA to Captain America Avengers version
-Iron Man Mark III to Iron Man Mark IV to Iron Man Mark VII
-AWE Jack Sparrow to DX06

Am I or will I be happier with the newer versions? Most definitely, but still you can see where this trend can get a little annoying.

But at the same time, Im excited to be able to get recent releases that are far out of my reach price wise that they are taking another shot at. Robocop. Rocky. Etc.

I wouldn't say figures like these though are necessarily a "upgrade" they are representative of the characters in multiple different movies. I wouldn't consider Rescue Cap a upgrade to TFA Cap when that was a costume from before the TFA version in the movie and Avengers Cap looks completely different from both, same with the Rami Spider-man as opposed to the Amazing Spider-Man. Now the Jokers and Batmans yeah that is definitely just upgrading.

 

[Rzeznikk]

I wouldn't say figures like these though are necessarily a "upgrade" they are representative of the characters in multiple different movies. I wouldn't consider Rescue Cap a upgrade to TFA Cap when that was a costume from before the TFA version in the movie and Avengers Cap looks completely different from both, same with the Rami Spider-man as opposed to the Amazing Spider-Man. Now the Jokers and Batmans yeah that is definitely just upgrading.

Well thats true. Each have their "place" in a collectors collection, but for me I only need ONE definitive version of those characters. I dont need FIVE Captain America's or TEN Iron Man figures. Just one and done. So after AVENGERS I will be DONE DONE with MARVEL characters. (Except for the new "The Wolverine" film Ill get the figure from that but Then Im good.)

 

[KillerCam251]

I must have all Captain Americas! He is my favorite character though, now I have a Batman and soon will have a Joker and I'll be done with them.