Aragorn Premium Format!!!

[The Ringer]

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I think this is spot on Viggo. I know he didn't get them till after the amon hen battle but boromir's vembrances would be a good exclusive. Or maybe an exclusive uruk head!

 

[woodsy]

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I find it strange how you lot can critisize the Aragorn dio expression when there is just as much or less of an expression on this one.

The difference being of course that Aragorn in the dio is embroiled in a life or death struggle with two uruk hai and therefore the expression [or lack of] does not fit with the overall scene. The PF is a stand alone piece, and while I wouldn't mind if there was some expression, it's not necessary.

And the colours are terrible, and come on - jet black hair??

You are right about the black hair [hopefully this will be corrected, though it never should have happened in the first place]. Not sure which other colours you are talking about

Woo another Aragorn item...

I'll be the first one to say there are way too many Aragorn pieces out there, but I think people are excited because after so many brutal attempts by Weta to recreate Viggo's likeness SS has finally come up with one that actually resembles him.

 

[Indiana Fett]

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Perhaps this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but does anyone know why he's not wearing his duster jacket? I would prefer if he was...Unless that's going to be the 'EXCLUSIVE'

 

[The Ringer]

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Perhaps this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but does anyone know why he's not wearing his duster jacket? I would prefer if he was...Unless that's going to be the 'EXCLUSIVE'

I think sideshow made this Aragorn to represent him at amon hen. You can see in the movie that he just wearing that grey shirt and the jerkin with the cloak.. A duster would be a cool exclsuive but I don't see how we could get it on him. But it is Sideshow making him so who kows what they have up their sleeves for Aragorn.

 

[woodsy]

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And my statement underneath my username was made before SS announced any lotr products other than SSW. But yes, as you mention it, Weta's stuff is better. I even prefer their Aragorn - likeness doesn't bother me too much, but the amount of detail that went into the sculpting of the clothes and the colours, weather effects, the fine detail....in my opinion, to me, that strider is the best done so far and the only one I'd care to own

Yeah, I can see where clothing and colors are more important than accurate facial sculpts. Now I can see why you think Weta is best...they did a great job on the clothing, but they couldn't accurately sculpt a face to save their lives

Any good sculptor will tell you the hardest thing to sculpt are faces. Anybody with half-decent skills can sculpt things like clothing but the ability to accurately sculpt faces is what separates the best from the rest.

When it comes to employing alot of average sculptors and shafting LOTR collectors then yes...Weta is best

 

[DarthSid]

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YES! Definitely will get this.

 

[The Craw]

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actually this might be my first PF. i think it looks great. i think the lighting just makes the hair look darker. it will turn out fine. i didnt even notice it was too dark til someone mentioned it. now im tempted to get the lurtz PF to go with him.

 

[Darklord Dave]

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The hair isn't jet black, I don't see that in the pics even. It's the same color as all the other Aragorns we've seen in the past.

I've never really understood about the complaints about Aragorn's expression, either with this or the diorama. That's pretty much how Viggo played the character when in a fight - calm and matter of fact.

 

[crazytrain]

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When it comes to employing alot of average sculptors and shafting LOTR collectors then yes...Weta is best

Please elaborate... Some of the human likenesses were way off, but lets face it so are some of SSs. How on earth does this lead to collectors being "shafted"? If you don't like it, don't buy it - if you choose to be "shafted" then thats up to you... Oh, and those "average" sculptors were the ones that did the maquettes for the films - I wish my sculpting ability was as "average" as theirs...
Why do we keep having this "I think SS is better than Weta" and vice versa arguments - they're both very good at what they do - there have been some duff pieces from both companies and there have been some outstanding ones from both. Lets all celebrate the good ones, which this Aragorn PF definitely is

 

[Indiana Fett]

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Perhaps this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but does anyone know why he's not wearing his duster jacket? I would prefer if he was...Unless that's going to be the 'EXCLUSIVE'

I think sideshow made this Aragorn to represent him at amon hen. You can see in the movie that he just wearing that grey shirt and the jerkin with the cloak.. A duster would be a cool exclsuive but I don't see how we could get it on him. But it is Sideshow making him so who kows what they have up their sleeves for Aragorn.

Thanks Ringer, that totally makes sense. I was thinking that given the pose, it would be difficult to slip the duster on/off. I just figure that Aragorn is more iconic WITH the duster on, so I'd prefer that he had it (or at least the option of wearing it).

Of course, with the magnetic sword hand option on the GTW PF, perhaps they could go that route with Aragorn too...remove the sword hand, slip the duster over the arm, around the back and over the other arm and voila!, instant iconic Aragorn!

...just a thought!

 

[The Craw]

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Thanks Ringer, that totally makes sense. I was thinking that given the pose, it would be difficult to slip the duster on/off. I just figure that Aragorn is more iconic WITH the duster on, so I'd prefer that he had it (or at least the option of wearing it).

Of course, with the magnetic sword hand option on the GTW PF, perhaps they could go that route with Aragorn too...remove the sword hand, slip the duster over the arm, around the back and over the other arm and voila!, instant iconic Aragorn!

...just a thought!

they'd almost have to have both arms be removable at the shoulders for that to happen. actually i wouldnt mind seeing that myself but i love this pose and this moment in the films. i think this might be a homerun for LOTR fans. maybe even a grand slam!

 

[wofford29]

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Thinking back to NECA's 20'' Aragorn and all his accessories I wouldn't be surprised to see something like a dagger, bed roll, torch type exclusive.

 

[The Josh]

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The hair isn't jet black, I don't see that in the pics even. It's the same color as all the other Aragorns we've seen in the past.

I've never really understood about the complaints about Aragorn's expression, either with this or the diorama. That's pretty much how Viggo played the character when in a fight - calm and matter of fact.

Yeah, I don't see the hair being black at all. Its the same color as any other Aragorn item we've ever gotten..

I'm totally with you there Dave. Viggo played the role very calm. I can think of very few scenes where he had that rage look on his face.

Here's the best screen cap I can find of the scene this comes from.

 

[woodsy]

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Please elaborate... Some of the human likenesses were way off, but lets face it so are some of SSs.

Some?...Try most. Certainly SS has had some of the same issue's, but overall the likenesses with SS have been better.

How on earth does this lead to collectors being "shafted"? If you don't like it, don't buy it - if you choose to be "shafted" then thats up to you...

The shafting comment relates to Weta bailing out of the LOTR licence. Many of us who had been there from the beginning, and had waited patiently for years to see some of our favorite characters [faramir, eomer, mouth of sauron on steed , etc...suddenly realized it wasn't going to happen when Weta dropped that bomb on us.

Oh, and those "average" sculptors were the ones that did the maquettes for the films - I wish my sculpting ability was as "average" as theirs...

are they the same ones that also gave us the legolas that doesn't look like legolas, the aragorn that doesn't look like aragorn, etc...not to mention the dreaded eomer bust? Like I have said before, Weta did a great job when it came to sculpting creatures. When it came to humans, elves, etc...not so much.

Why do we keep having this "I think SS is better than Weta" and vice versa arguments - they're both very good at what they do - there have been some duff pieces from both companies and there have been some outstanding ones from both. Lets all celebrate the good ones, which this Aragorn PF definitely is

You'll have to ask the lobodomized Weta loyalists that question. I've always said both SS and Weta have done some great things, as well as some pretty bad ones. Unfortunately, no matter what SS does there will always be some Weta drones spewing their "Weta is better" mantra. As if somehow the quality of Weta's product is better than SS's. Of course this is an utterly ridiculous statement, and certainly not based on anything factual, but don't try and confuse them with things like facts.

 

[woodsy]

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The hair isn't jet black, I don't see that in the pics even. It's the same color as all the other Aragorns we've seen in the past.

I've never really understood about the complaints about Aragorn's expression, either with this or the diorama. That's pretty much how Viggo played the character when in a fight - calm and matter of fact.

Watched the Two Towers the other day...Viggo sure didn't look calm and matter of fact to me, fighting on the wall's of Helm's Deep.....maybe I was watching it at the wrong angle?

 

[p!tu]

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I only wished that the 1:6 had a head sculpt like that!

 

[The Josh]

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Watched the Two Towers the other day...Viggo sure didn't look calm and matter of fact to me, fighting on the wall's of Helm's Deep.....maybe I was watching it at the wrong angle?

He has a few moments where he has the rage look but if you like I can post a bunch of screen caps where he is quite calm.

 

[Seretur]

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Glad you like it Vlad.

I'm not the only one who feels that you've been a bit of a downer, but I'm the only one who's said it in public.

I suppose I'm here to just say what I think -- and I have been disappointed in a few things recently. Sorry for making anyone feel down.

The purpose of this hobby is celebrating the continuing life of Tolkien's creation in film, music, sculpture, and other artforms, and to the extent that both these things are being done with integrity, I've wholeheartedly supported them. But it's not that something has to be supported just because it's being done -- and it's important to remember that.

For all the vitriol I've poured on the GTW PF, I might even acquire the Aragorn PF. For all the disappointment ROTK the movie caused me, I still love FOTR the movie. And so on. I live these things professionally and privately, and I care about them as much as I do about my loved ones.

It's just the passion.

 

[LOTRFan]

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I suppose I'm here to just say what I think -- and I have been disappointed in a few things recently. Sorry for making anyone feel down.

Don't apologize Vlad, or at least certainly not on my behalf. This is a public message board where ideas are to be freely communicated, agreed upon or not.

Diversity is the strength, and the ability to celebrate it makes for a mature and well-rounded board. I find that constructive criticism (which you have ALWAYS demonstrated) can often make things much better than they would have otherwise been.

 

[The Josh]

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Nobody has a problem with you saying what you think. I was just pointing out that I've noticed you've been down on a lot of things recently or so it seems.

I haven't seen a thing that hasn't been done with integrity. Not a thing. I'm sure there are some small bull crap things in a market I don't pay attention too but honestly between SS and GG I haven't seen anything that is an affront to Tolkien or his memory. Therefore I've supported what's been coming out.

Well, I think your vitrol for the GTW was off from my POV because in person I thought it was ok. I'm not getting it as I'm limiting my PF buys to ones I just cannot miss (Aragorn). Well, for me its a close tie between ROTK and FOTR for which I like more, but I'm not so **** about it has to be EXACTLY like the book. I know you more it has to be which is cool but I think that takes more enjoyment out of things than it should. I love them as well as much as the next guy and its a passion with me. I don't do things with them professionally but maybe that helps me enjoy them more. I don't have to sit there with an overly critical eye.

Just kick back and enjoy Vlad. Its a hobby.