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Thank you! Definitely gonna purchase Thranduil no matter what! Prototype looks amazing and majestic! And as there is InArt on the market, I think Asmus will upgrade their figures for the competition.
TBH think ASMUS needs to be consistent about their sculpts and quality control, past that I hope they stay as they are using vinyl and plastics effectively (like Thorins armor scales that I had to poke at to check if they were metal, or what. Still shiny and no peeling!)

At least, since I only have the InArt Aragorn - yes he has a nice sculpt and there is some nice details as well as the rolling eyes, but his costume I have some issues with....the thing is, I don't need ASMUS to be uber upscale. Because that's gonna cost. Like I see no need at all to replacing my ASMUS Gimlis. I mean, if I want real chain maille I can get to work at it; replace some plastic pouches with real leather and all that. But it's time and money upscaling.

That's just me I know others would prefer "the best". Like those rolling eyes not a feature I use much.
 
I will only buy this if Inart doesn’t make Thranduil. I have a dozen Asmus LOTR and they are all decent, some better or worse. Galadriel was undersized and production suffered. Prologue elves have strange color fabric that doesn’t match source material but I still love them. Hobbits are fine, I managed to get the correct blue eyed non sickly Slim Frodo. Arwen looks great. I think Young Bilbo also looks fine.

Haldir and Thranduil I’ve been waiting for a long time as many know. Unfair though it may be, comparing Inart Thorin to Asmus there in completely different leagues. Same as comparing the derided HD Aragorn to Inart FOTR Aragorn. Looking back at my HD Legolas I can see the body proportions look wrong, a lot of Asmus LOTR figs also have gigantic hands that throw off the whole body.
 
With Thranduil being very tall, I do hope they use a taller body that the usual stock Adam body or at least extenders to add the additional height! Lee Pace is 6.5ft tall apparently.
 
I will only buy this if Inart doesn’t make Thranduil. I have a dozen Asmus LOTR and they are all decent, some better or worse. Galadriel was undersized and production suffered. Prologue elves have strange color fabric that doesn’t match source material but I still love them. Hobbits are fine, I managed to get the correct blue eyed non sickly Slim Frodo. Arwen looks great. I think Young Bilbo also looks fine.

Haldir and Thranduil I’ve been waiting for a long time as many know. Unfair though it may be, comparing Inart Thorin to Asmus there in completely different leagues. Same as comparing the derided HD Aragorn to Inart FOTR Aragorn. Looking back at my HD Legolas I can see the body proportions look wrong, a lot of Asmus LOTR figs also have gigantic hands that throw off the whole body.
IMO this is interesting just seeing how collectors view things. Obviously I'm a happy ASMUS customer.

And while I'll readily agree the InArt Thorin face looks spectacular - like the actor/prosthetics/hair and Aragorn's sculpt is very nice, for me my first InArt wasn't nice enough, as it were. Overall with ASMUS with figures like Thorin, young Bilbo, Gimli, GTG I feel like I got more than I paid for, thanks to excellent material use, lots of accessories, hands, sturdy bodies....

While with InArt it's more - not "premium" ENOUGH. Because if you are going to be premium, you'd better get things right that even Sideshow managed (aside from the fact I got *&^$ hair on Aragorn). The too-short tunic of an inexpensive material (I was expecting microsuede or similar); the very stiff hands, the indifferent production of the elven cloak of another inexpensive material, the questionable use of what looks like bonded leather for the belts and straps which may or may not be a problem in time. From the looks of it, Legolas is gonna need some upgrading as well; the proto council cloak is awful. Even one of the little diecast tabs on the "cord" that hold's my Aragorn's arrows has the end broken off (yes it is a tiny part but it bugs me).

Then there's the Harry Potter cheap peg issue (I already got some extra pegs for Aragorn, just in case).

It's not that I wouldn't buy another InArt; it's just I feel cynical which I don't feel about ASMUS, HT, or even some third party companies.
 
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With Thranduil being very tall, I do hope they use a taller body that the usual stock Adam body or at least extenders to add the additional height! Lee Pace is 6.5ft tall apparently.
We have used extned ankle pegs for Thranduil,
so he is about 1/2" taller than regular folks in the collection.
 
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I will only buy this if Inart doesn’t make Thranduil. I have a dozen Asmus LOTR and they are all decent, some better or worse. Galadriel was undersized and production suffered. Prologue elves have strange color fabric that doesn’t match source material but I still love them. Hobbits are fine, I managed to get the correct blue eyed non sickly Slim Frodo. Arwen looks great. I think Young Bilbo also looks fine.

Haldir and Thranduil I’ve been waiting for a long time as many know. Unfair though it may be, comparing Inart Thorin to Asmus there in completely different leagues. Same as comparing the derided HD Aragorn to Inart FOTR Aragorn. Looking back at my HD Legolas I can see the body proportions look wrong, a lot of Asmus LOTR figs also have gigantic hands that throw off the whole body.
I understand that thinking,
but my 2 cents on this issue [on Thranduil especially] is that:

1 - there are no guarantees Inart will do Thranduil, or if they do that it will be this specific Thranduil and not Thranduil in his armor. Yes I would argue Thranduil is one of the more memorable and better characters in the Hobbit Trrilogy but he is not a main character unlike Thorin, we are far more likely IMO to get Young Bilbo and that may well be it, especially considering the amount of licenses Inart have.

2 - time and price, the Inart Thranduil, if one ever gets made, will likely be many years into the future possibly as many as 5 considering that Inart have a more than 1+ year wait from when a figure is announced to when it is released to influencers then another 1 year wait to get to collectors. So if It was announced today we are talking 2 years from now, and lets be honest they are unlikely to announce their Thranduil any time soon when you consider they haven't even put up orders for Thorin yet and its very likely they will at least wait until they know if the Hobbit line is profitable or not before they put up another figure and possibly before they even work on the proto. Also keep in mind that some of their locked and loaded prototypes like the Harris Dumbledore haven't been put up for pre-order despite being put on display a year ago.
Meaning it will be a long wait for an Inart Thranduil.
Then there is price, with how high and how quickly Inart prices are rising its very likely that by the time Thranduil is made available for order, again assuming he happens at all, the figure may well be too expensive for most collectors to justify, which again begins to factor into the calculations of how likely he is to happen at all.

So, I know I am going to get this Asmus offering of Thranduil [unless the price is insane or something] and I may well get an Inart one in the future if its offered, but I would rather have a figure of him now rather than wait on uncertainties.
But thats just my opinion, you do whats best for you and your collection mate! ;)
 
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@Asmus

I know you said this guy is just waiting on license approval and you are already in the process of manufacturing him, but can I ask about the Throne or his Elk - any chance of those happening now or in the future?

The Throne mock-up you made is just so beautiful......

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And as for his Elk it works for BOTH of Thranduil's looks!
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I feel like that throne, at that size, would be like $1,000
They had talked about it before. Concerns over weight and shipping costs. At the time the throne would have been 500 or so.

I think they should do it anyway; make the upper portion plastic and lower stairs poly. Phicen has put out some big bases, very nice; IMO no different than including a resin horse which a lot of companies like Lucifer do.
 
They had talked about it before. Concerns over weight and shipping costs. At the time the throne would have been 500 or so.

I think they should do it anyway; make the upper portion plastic and lower stairs poly. Phicen has put out some big bases, very nice; IMO no different than including a resin horse which a lot of companies like Lucifer do.
I agree, just make it out of plastic with some resin or other substance weighting it down towards the bottom.
LOTS of companies are doing fairly large and complex dioramas these days without it breaking the bank.
 
It’s not just about the throne that I was saying it would be absurdly expensive. It’s the size of it and how big the shipping expense would as a result. Kit was saying it costs him $60 just on shipping for InArt figure and I think that was a discussion on Legolas which didn’t even have a heavy diorama base like Harry Potter does.

Even if those throne costs $500 to buy, it’s going to be half of that in shipping costs between size and weight.
 
They could make it like a plastic model car kit, comes in pieces and you have to put it together.
Yep. 2 antler pieces, nested. One throne piece, or make the back separate so it plugs into the chair. All plastic. Poly stairs.

Wouldn't be that different than any other 1/6, or a Phicen with a big polystone base. Ship in foam. Not that different from ASMUS' Hateful Eight diorama.

I don't need the moose tho I'd buy it. A 1/6 horse is about 200$ or so, but with the tack and antlers that would add up.
 
My understanding is that, the larger the piece of plastic, the more likely it is to warp during the molding process as the material cools, and there’s also higher risk of air bubbles and inconsistencies etc.

That myth busters guy was talking about it during the JazzInc 89 Batmobile unboxing. Kind of made me understand why companies opt for polystone even though we think plastic is the obvious choice.

So something as big as that throne would need to be made of lots of smaller interconnecting pieces to reliably maintain its form both during and after production.
 
My understanding is that, the larger the piece of plastic, the more likely it is to warp during the molding process as the material cools, and there’s also higher risk of air bubbles and inconsistencies etc.

That myth busters guy was talking about it during the JazzInc 89 Batmobile unboxing. Kind of made me understand why companies opt for polystone even though we think plastic is the obvious choice.

So something as big as that throne would need to be made of lots of smaller interconnecting pieces to reliably maintain its form both during and after production.
Works for me. Even WETA incorporates plastics.
 
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