Avatar: The Way of Water

[ironwez20]

Don't know anyone who's seen it yet...

Well apparently it’s the best movie ever lol. Well that’s what reviews are saying. Idk see the first one got me a little hooked in like 09 but that was long ago

 

[TheBatman]

Well apparently it’s the best movie ever lol. Well that’s what reviews are saying. Idk see the first one got me a little hooked in like 09 but that was long ago

Maybe you'll get hooked again.

 

[ironwez20]

Maybe you'll get hooked again.

This time next week I’ll be buying avatar merch and arguing in the threads about how wrong everyone was about this movie

 

[Prime Clone]

So... how was it? Really.

OK, just got out now. It dragged a bit in the middle eight hours (started to get a bit self-indulgent exploring the undersea world, a la 2001 or TMP). Could've been shorter (the way of water = down my leg).

I can see why there are mixed reviews. I thought it was OK but obvs lacking the "gee whiz" factor of the original. But two buddies absolutely hated it and thought the storyline (such as it was) was drivel.

I actually didn't notice the plot holes but it obvs pays to focus on the spectacle and not expect too much brain food.

It would be a tall order to top the original's box office without the same 3D novelty effect.

And as mentioned earlier, there are many Cameron-isms from Aliens to The Abyss to Titanic and even Terminator.

 

[jye4ever]

OK, just got out now. It dragged a bit in the middle eight hours (started to get a bit self-indulgent exploring the undersea world, a la 2001 or TMP). Could've been shorter (the way of water = down my leg).

I can see why there are mixed reviews. I thought it was OK but obvs lacking the "gee whiz" factor of the original. But two buddies absolutely hated it and thought the storyline (such as it was) was drivel.

I actually didn't notice the plot holes but it obvs pays to focus on the spectacle and not expect too much brain food.

It would be a tall order to top the original's box office without the same 3D novelty effect.

And as mentioned earlier, there are many Cameron-isms from Aliens to The Abyss to Titanic and even Terminator.

Is it true that the last 40 minutes is non stop action?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Good review... much more what I expected/anticipated.

 

[Prime Clone]

Is it true that the last 40 minutes is non stop action?

Yes, just when it was starting to drag too much it got to the downward slope of the rollercoaster!

In that respect it actually reminded me of The Lone Ranger (which I liked, for the record).

 

[Wor-Gar]

Same structure as the first one... two hours of "story" (basically CGI beauty shots) and then the apologetic "40 minutes" of battle/climax... with likely another 20 minutes of mushy nonsense at the end (the "isn't this over yet?" epilogue).

Then the pleasure of the rush to the restroom with a long line of men tugging at their pants while standing on a wet and tacky tile floor, the sound of running sinks not helping their situation.

 

[Prime Clone]

I'd forgot how Cameron's 3D wasn't overplayed, rather just a depth effect. So hardly any floating fish heads like JAWS 3D!

 

[Prime Clone]

Spoiler

There are divided loyalties courtesy of the general's son.

Also the ending will make it hard to have a new environment for the next one (unless Cameron just waves it away).

 

[Wor-Gar]

Spoiler

There are divided loyalties courtesy of the general's son.

Also the ending will make it hard to have a new environment for the next one (unless Cameron just waves it away).

Biggest mistake he can make for #3.

 

[Mandible]

I've tried to get excited about number 2, as I didn't mind the original back in the day (maybe a 7 or 8/10 if I was feeling generous), but there is absolutely nothing they've shown that has any appeal to me.

I wish I was a viewer that could leave their brain outside the cinema and just be indulged by pretty lights, but sadly I'm not wired that way.

 

[Prime Clone]

Be interesting to see if this triggers "woke wars" - it's a more politically charged world today than when the original came out. And Cameron is still painting humans as the enemy via environment destruction and colonialism.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Wokenstein!

 

[guyver1]

Anybody outside of the U.S. seen it yet? How is it? Worth the hype?

 

[jedibear]

Same structure as the first one... two hours of "story" (basically CGI beauty shots) and then the apologetic "40 minutes" of battle/climax... with likely another 20 minutes of mushy nonsense at the end (the "isn't this over yet?" epilogue).

Then the pleasure of the rush to the restroom with a long line of men tugging at their pants while standing on a wet and tacky tile floor, the sound of running sinks not helping their situation.

Well, that's probably more vivid than anything the movie has to offer lol.

 

[Prime Clone]

And Cameron is still painting humans as the enemy via environment destruction and colonialism.

More to the point, Western forces pillaging the environment and indigenous races.

A few more observations/parallels...



* There's not only the "always a bigger fish" scene from TPM but planetary invasion/wildlife fleeing.
* The depiction of South Pacific Island warriors in a SF context was reminiscent of AOTC.
* There were a couple of JAWS 2 "the kids are out there!!" moments. The younglings get a lot of the action this time out.
* Saving/communicating with the whales a la The Voyage Home.
* More cool tech is on display, from mech suits and builder-bots to submersibles.

 

[Otomofan]

So Jake and Neytiri have four kids.....did she have a litter at once? Are Navi even mammals?

 

[Prime Clone]

So Jake and Neytiri have four kids.....did she have a litter at once? Are Navi even mammals?

They appear to be different ages. Not sure how much time has passed since the first one, but the eldest appears to be verging on adulthood.

 

[Wor-Gar]

appears to be verging on adulthood.

So is Cameron.

















Nah, just kidding.