Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1st, 2015)

[guy66657]

I don't have a problem with that at all. There's no way it's gonna be permanent. It's probably just another Superior Spider-Man kind of deal where it'll probably be only for a year or so, maybe it'll end before Age of Ultron comes out but I highly doubt it's permanent. Lady Loki wasn't permanent. I'm really trying to understand all the hate for this. XD

 

[GasparZizou]

I don't have a problem with that at all. There's no way it's gonna be permanent. It's probably just another Superior Spider-Man kind of deal where it'll probably be only for a year or so, maybe it'll end before Age of Ultron comes out but I highly doubt it's permanent. Lady Loki wasn't permanent. I'm really trying to understand all the hate for this. XD

Personally, my hate is conditioned by whether it's permanent or not.

Don't get me wrong I love female characters, really, love them and I hate the over sexualization etc etc, what I don't like is when they grab an established character with decades of history and it's actually based on Norse lore, and turn it into something else as a marketing gimmick or to fill some pseudo PC demand, for whatever reason, being race or gender.

If they want more gender equality or racial diversity, create more female and diverse characters, or better yet, make the ones that already exist more interesting and prolific, don't go and do this.

Could you imagine the media storm if WW was turned into a man or Black Panther into white?

 

[bransen2099]

Personally, my hate is conditioned by whether it's permanent or not.

Don't get me wrong I love female characters, really, love them and I hate the over sexualization etc etc, what I don't like is when they grab an established character with decades of history and it's actually based on Norse lore, and turn it into something else as a marketing gimmick or to fill some pseudo PC demand, for whatever reason, being race or gender.

If they want more gender equality or racial diversity, create more female and diverse characters, or better yet, make the ones that already exist more interesting and prolific, don't go and do this.

Could you imagine the media storm if WW was turned into a man or Black Panther into white?

Or Human Torch became black... Oh wait...

 

[GasparZizou]

Or Human Torch became black... Oh wait...

Nah, when a white character gets turned black there's no problem, there's a problem when it's the other way around.

For some reason nobody has ever tried that, I'd be scared too.

 

[pturtle]

Nah, when a white character gets turned black there's no problem, there's a problem when it's the other way around.

For some reason nobody has ever tried that, I'd be scared too.

I actually think theres worst stuff going on, like casting Christian Bale and Joel Edgerton to play Moses and Rhamses in Exodus.

 

[GasparZizou]

I actually think theres worst stuff going on, like casting Christian Bale and Joel Edgerton to play Moses and Rhamses in Exodus.

Uhhh that's gonna start some **** up there's a whole deal of controversy already about whether the Egyptians were black or white.

 

[thedopefreshness]

The Race of Ancient Egyptians is a subject that has attracted some controversy, especially within Afrocentric circles. The debate over the racial characteristics of the Ancient Egyptians usually occurs outside the field of Egyptology today.Studies have shown that modern Egyptians have genetic affinities with populations of Europe and the Middle East to East African populations.Studies done on dental affinities and cranial characteristics among ancient Egyptians have shown these affinities, and uniformity and homogeneity among the samples taken,and egyptologists generally consider the ancient Egyptians to have been a continuum from lighter northern populations of Europe to the darker Nubians and Ku s h i t es (c'mon filter) to the dark brown Nilotic peoples.

 

[GasparZizou]

Yes sir, that is what I like to believe, that the Egyptians were diverse people.

 

[pturtle]

Oh crap, I wasn’t thinking, I’m staying out of this

 

[Brainiac]

Yes sir, that is what I like to believe, that the Egyptians were diverse people.

Sounds OK to me, not really a stretch

 

[JorReno]

I honestly believe that there should be no such thing as RACE in movies. If you've got a good actor... who cares what color they are? Morgan Freeman could play Vanilla Ice and I'd honestly believe him as the greatest white rapper of all time.

 

[Brainiac]

I honestly believe that there should be no such thing as RACE in movies. If you've got a good actor... who cares what color they are? Morgan Freeman could play Vanilla Ice and I'd honestly believe him as the greatest white rapper of all time.

sorry but I disagree, its not about the actor, to enjoy movies, particularly fantasy/scifi movies, sometimes suspension of disbelief is required by the viewer at least in some way, the same can be said with belief in the characters being portrayed, in order for that to happen the character must be believable

 

[guy66657]

Personally, my hate is conditioned by whether it's permanent or not.

Don't get me wrong I love female characters, really, love them and I hate the over sexualization etc etc, what I don't like is when they grab an established character with decades of history and it's actually based on Norse lore, and turn it into something else as a marketing gimmick or to fill some pseudo PC demand, for whatever reason, being race or gender.

If they want more gender equality or racial diversity, create more female and diverse characters, or better yet, make the ones that already exist more interesting and prolific, don't go and do this.

Could you imagine the media storm if WW was turned into a man or Black Panther into white?

It's about Thor losing his power. Anyone can be Thor. You, me, a mutant. What's been said is that Thor is still gonna be around. It's just gonna be another chick who is gonna be worthy of holding Mjolnir.

Yeah sure it's based on actual mythology but it's BASED. I don't think Stan ever meant to completely stick to the myths. This is just science fiction/fantasy after all. They were always going to be doing their own thing with it. ,y friend LOVES Thor and even worships him since she is Pagan. She told me that yeah they do change things from the actual mythology but it's still just a different universe than the actual myths and thinks the changes are cool in their own creative way. I mean Heaven is the 10th realm? Pretty damn cool from a fictional standpoint.

I wouldn't mind either if a dude took on the mantle of Wonder Woman or even if a white dude took on the mantle of Black Panther. As long as you treat the original character with respect and write it well but that's just me.

I think the current Ms. Marvel run as well as even the new Wally West are executing the ideas pretty well.

 

[Brainiac]

It's about Thor losing his power. Anyone can be Thor. You, me, a mutant. What's been said is that Thor is still gonna be around. It's just gonna be another chick who is gonna be worthy of holding Mjolnir.

Yeah sure it's based on actual mythology but it's BASED. I don't think Stan ever meant to completely stick to the myths. This is just science fiction/fantasy after all. They were always going to be doing their own thing with it. ,y friend LOVES Thor and even worships him since she is Pagan. She told me that yeah they do change things from the actual mythology but it's still just a different universe than the actual myths and thinks the changes are cool in their own creative way. I mean Heaven is the 10th realm? Pretty damn cool from a fictional standpoint.

I wouldn't mind either if a dude took on the mantle of Wonder Woman or even if a white dude took on the mantle of Black Panther. As long as you treat the original character with respect and write it well but that's just me.

I think the current Ms. Marvel run as well as even the new Wally West are executing the ideas pretty well.

Is she Pagan or Asatruar? just curious

 

[thedopefreshness]

I honestly believe that there should be no such thing as RACE in movies. If you've got a good actor... who cares what color they are? Morgan Freeman could play Vanilla Ice and I'd honestly believe him as the greatest white rapper of all time.

Well I think you've got a point, race shouldn't be a factor when casting original characters etc;
But when you're casting a person that actually existed, it's different, imagine if instead of Will Smith they cast Brad Pitt as Ali, both actors are talented (Smith, coincidentally showing that in that role especially) but it's simply more believable with Smith.

 

[Grumpy Bear]

Boooooooooooooooooooom!

 

[meanstreak]

If that is Ulton I am digging it. Can't wait for next week (even though I am not even going to try to be in Hall H)

 

[thedopefreshness]

Boooooooooooooooooooom!


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[Brainiac]

Boooooooooooooooooooom!


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******ing AWESOME!!! So getting Hot Toys Ultron

 

[third3ye]

Ultron looks pretty menacing and still retains enough of his comic look, I like it.