Avengers: Age of Ultron (May 1st, 2015)

[chewblacca]

I have to disagree here, and I hated MOS more than a majority of the bad MCU films, I can honestly say MOS is way better than AOU.

Can I have some of what you're smoking? It sounds like some crazy stuff!

 

[jye4ever]

Ultron had a dark sense of humor since he was based off Tony. I thought it made much more sense the 2nd and third time I saw it but I can agree with Joss not being able to blend drama with humor. But I actually thought the humor was a little more forces in the first movie. They made so many references to how Ultron and Tony were alike so I thought it made sense with the personality and dialogue that he had. I think he was menacing in a different kind of way. He wasn't as scary as he could have been but I think he was fine with what he was given to do, with the removal of Hank Pym.

I thought the twins were fine as well.

I thought that this Pietro was very close to how 616 Pietro was. Protective, a bit of an ass but still can be a good guy. He was the Pietro that I read in House of M. He was 616 Pietro and I really really appreciate that.

DOFP Peter was very similar to X-Men Evolution's Pietro but was also literally Bart Allen or Tommy Kaplan on screen. I guess it's just not the Pietro I want to see.

Have you not seen close siblings like that before? It may not be incestuous but they were all they had which was each other. It made sense that they would hold hands and make sure each other was okay when they could.

If anything, the only things I really didn't like was Clint's family from the ultimate universe and the Bruce/Nat relationship. And of course, killing Pietro.

I think it's actually a solid film. A very solid film. I'd give it an 8.5. Could it have been better? Absolutely. But I blame cutting scenes out for that. I think it could've been 15-20 minutes longer. Hell, there was even an alternate ending with Pietro being part of the new team with a new costume and everything and I really rather would've had that. I completely understand why people didn't like it but I enjoyed it for what it was.

I wasn't too worried with Joss wrote Ultron but if I found out that he was gonna sign on for Infinity War, **** that, I'd be worried. I'm glad he had his time with Marvel Studios and I'm sure the Russos will pick up the mantle and deliver quality films like they did with The Winter Soldier. I wanna see Good Riddance, Joss. But thank you at the same time.

Great review.

pturtle's not so good

 

[Biojex]

I think we all live only a few miles from each other.

Shame JAWS is far away.

It's settled then. Pturtle grab your goggles. Jye grab your Murica shield. Jaws bring your Richard Dreyfuss...it's time to rock

 

[jye4ever]

What are you bringing, Smog Monster to fling at pturtle and JAWS.

They know that's not Smog.

Ohhhhh, that's why you want pturtle to wear the goggles and me a shield.

 

[pturtle]

Ultron had a dark sense of humor since he was based off Tony. I thought it made much more sense the 2nd and third time I saw it but I can agree with Joss not being able to blend drama with humor. But I actually thought the humor was a little more forces in the first movie. They made so many references to how Ultron and Tony were alike so I thought it made sense with the personality and dialogue that he had. I think he was menacing in a different kind of way. He wasn't as scary as he could have been but I think he was fine with what he was given to do, with the removal of Hank Pym.

I thought the twins were fine as well.

I thought that this Pietro was very close to how 616 Pietro was. Protective, a bit of an ass but still can be a good guy. He was the Pietro that I read in House of M. He was 616 Pietro and I really really appreciate that.

DOFP Peter was very similar to X-Men Evolution's Pietro but was also literally Bart Allen or Tommy Kaplan on screen. I guess it's just not the Pietro I want to see.

Have you not seen close siblings like that before? It may not be incestuous but they were all they had which was each other. It made sense that they would hold hands and make sure each other was okay when they could.

If anything, the only things I really didn't like was Clint's family from the ultimate universe and the Bruce/Nat relationship. And of course, killing Pietro.

I think it's actually a solid film. A very solid film. I'd give it an 8.5. Could it have been better? Absolutely. But I blame cutting scenes out for that. I think it could've been 15-20 minutes longer. Hell, there was even an alternate ending with Pietro being part of the new team with a new costume and everything and I really rather would've had that. I completely understand why people didn't like it but I enjoyed it for what it was.

I wasn't too worried with Joss wrote Ultron but if I found out that he was gonna sign on for Infinity War, **** that, I'd be worried. I'm glad he had his time with Marvel Studios and I'm sure the Russos will pick up the mantle and deliver quality films like they did with The Winter Soldier. I wanna see Good Riddance, Joss. But thank you at the same time.

I've actually never seen grown siblings touch each other like that
The fact that they're all they had kind of makes me think incest.

I think under a better director they can be awesome though. Their accents need a lot of work, but I was hoping QS would be a little more cocky and have a lot more dialogue. He felt like tree number 5 when there wasn't action. I think we'll see him again, he did an interview hinting at it.

Pturtle, did you walk into the movie with your quicksilver pen and paper ready to write your review?

Come grab some beers with me and jye then lets all go see it together. Thats the only way to get the true MCU experience

That Quicksilver pen and paper comment actually made me laugh at out loud. If they made one I would definitely own it

The true MCU experience is exactly what I've been missing.

Whew.

You're still worth saving.



I think we all live only a few miles from each other.

Shame JAWS is far away.

You live in NY Jye? I had no clue.

Can I have some of what you're smoking? It sounds like some crazy stuff!

Funny cigarettes

 

[jye4ever]

I do I do.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Can I have some of what you're smoking? It sounds like some crazy stuff!

Whatever he's smoking must be some good stuff.

 

[guy66657]

Oh yes. Another thing with people bitching about the fight scenes? I think they were more action SEQUENCES than fight scenes, really.

Opening scene is fine. They're just storming a HYDRA base is all.

Mk I Ultron crashing the party was fine introducing the baddie.

The sequence on Klaw's ship was actually very cool. It was the first real time where the team was put up against Ultron and the twins and showed more of what they were capable of. All of Pietro's bits were fantastic there from punching Cap to trying to grab Mjolnir. Not to mention Wanda mind ****ing everyone. the Ultron and Iron Man sequences during this scene were pretty well choreographed too.

Don't think I need to go into the Hulkbuster fight.

My favorite part of the entire film is honestly the Avengers landing in South Korea to extract the gem cradle from Ultron, ALL THE WAY up to the new Avengers team with Vision on their way to to Sokovia. Seeing Cap hold his own against Ultron, Clint worrying about Natasha. I actually noticed my third time around they Nat and Clint in a way reversed roles in trying to find one another after being taken by the main baddie. Then you have Cap, Wanda, and Pietro stopping the train which awesomely demonstrated what the twins can do with their powers. Then you have the entire Vision birthing scene. Every single line and action that comes out of Vision is pure brilliance when it comes to that character. And lastly, Cap's plan speech on the way to Sokovia is honestly my new version of the "circle shot Avengers assembling" from the first movie. Cap explaining his plan. Tony, Bruce, and Steve talking about the plan. Vision and Thor standing on the edge of Avengers tower, capes blowing. That looked beautiful. That's probably my favorite shot, actually. That or the shot of Clint up on the balcony in Sokovia.

And I don't think I need to talk too much about my favorite scene in the entire film, which is the final scene between Vision and Ultron. It was just a perfect Vision/Ultron exchange.

I gotta say there were some really damn good things in this film. Sorry for the long write ups you guys. XD after three viewings, I'm now putting my final thoughts together on this film.

Alright, I'm done.

 

[Irvy]

Oh man I forgot about Thor and Vision being cape bros in that shot.

I want a cape.

 

[Khev]

Cap and Wanda need to hook up in Civil War. They both lost everyone they loved, learned that at one point they were fighting for the wrong team, she can get into his head to understand what it's like to be his specific kind of fish out of water. "Shared life experiences" and all that. Well she can even enchant herself to give him "Peggy night" once in a while.

I think the game changers of Civil War will be her and Vision. Each can single-handedly take out an entire group of superheroes. I've got to imagine that the Russos will make sure they are on separate teams.

 

[jye4ever]

Oh man I forgot about Thor and Vision being cape bros in that shot.

I want a cape.

Cap and Wanda need to hook up in Civil War. They both lost everyone they loved, learned that at one point they were fighting for the wrong team, she can get into his head to understand what it's like to be his specific kind of fish out of water. "Shared life experiences" and all that. Well she can even enchant herself to give him "Peggy night" once in a while.

I think the game changers of Civil War will be her and Vision. Each can single-handedly take out an entire group of superheroes. I've got to imagine that the Russos will make sure they are on separate teams.

Imagine the action in their hands.

I wonder if the RB helped with the action in AOU, because it was right up there with TWS.

Both of these movies have my favorite action scenes of ANY movie.

 

[Khev]

I wonder if the RB helped with the action in AOU, because it was right up there with TWS.

Both of these movies have my favorite action scenes of ANY movie.

I just checked imdb and was surprised to see no overlapping second unit directors between TWS and AoU. Marvel has a heck of a lot of talent working on these movies. Just goes to show how awesome Evans has been at keeping his fighting consistently awesome across multiple directors.

 

[MaulFan]

Well one good thing is most directors and stunt coordinators respect that these actors have lived these roles for years and have a lot of input on the roles including fighting styles.

 

[The Tuggernaut]

Their relationship was creepy too, the way QS kept touching his sister makes me Whedon was definitely going the ultimate route with these characters.

Uh... did I miss something? Did QS touch her in bad places? Odd statement, IMO.

Have you not seen close siblings like that before? It may not be incestuous but they were all they had which was each other. It made sense that they would hold hands and make sure each other was okay when they could.

^ This.

 

[Niltusk]

Finally saw this and I honestly thought Joss dropped the ball, glad to see him going. Being a big fan of Buffy and Firefly, I've got to say I just don't think Joss paces well in movies, I think his style just needs time to build and with everything going on this just came off as serialized, like 'just another day for the Avengers' rather than the epic Age of Ultron. The pace also felt very off throughout. I'd love to see Joss work on some upcoming TV projects, for old school fans of Heroes for Hire I could definitely see his style championing a project like that. I enjoyed AoU, but yeah, it's not cracking near the IM1 or TWS re-viewings, I can tell that already.

 

[Khev]

Their relationship was creepy too, the way QS kept touching his sister makes me Whedon was definitely going the ultimate route with these characters.

pturtle: "So that's how it is in their family."

 

[guy66657]

pturtle: "So that's how it is in their family."

Now THAT is an awesome reference. I actually laughed out loud to that. XD i'd rep you if I could.

 

[ronri]

Ultron had a dark sense of humor since he was based off Tony. I thought it made much more sense the 2nd and third time I saw it but I can agree with Joss not being able to blend drama with humor. But I actually thought the humor was a little more forces in the first movie. They made so many references to how Ultron and Tony were alike so I thought it made sense with the personality and dialogue that he had. I think he was menacing in a different kind of way. He wasn't as scary as he could have been but I think he was fine with what he was given to do, with the removal of Hank Pym.

I haven't watched the film a second time (CRAZY I know) and yet that's exactly the mindset I had when I watched the film. I liked Ultron not because he was necessarily threatening (he did have his moments like his Mk I form and when he cut Klaw's hand) but mainly because of the ponderous and biblical nature of his personality and how it all fits into this twisted character. I can easily see someone else making him more "serious" or "grimdark" and yet, I highly doubt I can see anyone pull off such a complete fanservice of a portrayal of Ultron as what Joss Whedon did. When people said he was really jokey, I was actually surprised because I really didn't see him that way. Sure there were times when I'd laugh, but never in a way where it felt really forced as if after finishing a line there's a cue for the audience to laugh. Really, he's more sarcastic and very patronizing, and his ponderous personality lends to him being very impulsive in his actions. He's more funny because he feels clumsy and new, despite all of his self-perception of godhood.

Sad as it may seem, all these combinations actually made for a very faithful depiction of Ultron's classic depictions, including both the twisted and the dorkiness of it all. The cartoons have gone on to treat him as being more cold and calculating, but that wasn't how Ultron was in the comics and he still continues to be a very expressive and angry robot even going by his modern storylines. In this regard, I felt very serviced as a fan. Was it everyone's cup of tea? Maybe not, but I can't deny that I absolutely loved how Whedon handled Ultron. It could have fallen flat, and it was really close I will admit, but I was surprised that Whedon was able to give him such a brilliant sendoff (probably my most favorite scene in the film or even the MCU by far).

In any case, I've actually seen more Ultron fans liking him more than the average comic fan or casual viewer. Maybe it's just an Ultron thing?

Still a million times better than TDKR/MOS.

Holy ****, don't get me started on those two films. I enjoyed them when I first watched them but in hindsight they were really terrible. I honestly cannot watch TDKR in silence, nowadays I always go on a rant as I pick apart almost every scene of the film and go on lengths on why it was so flawed in its presentation, setup, execution etc. (and this is coming from someone who previously defended it like crazy as well.)

 

[pturtle]

pturtle: "So that's how it is in their family."

QS kept rubbing her every chance he got, Also in the ultimate comics they did have an incestuous relationship so I couldn't help but put two and two together.

 

[jye4ever]

I'll keep enjoying the incredible set pieces from the MCU while waiting for DC to perfect their serious side of the art.