Avengers: Infinity War - (warning: Spoilers)

[ShadowX81]

Marvel knows exactly what they’re doing with these reversable deaths they removed the focus from those who DIDN’T die for a reason and that will be key going into IW2.

Man is 4 going to be hard to sit thru.

Shortsided fickle people with their shortsided fickle complaints what are you going to do lol

My bet is that obviously those that died will be brought back, but that The Avengers who remained will sacrifice themselves (with a couple exceptions) to bring the other half of the universe back. Of course Captain Marvel is going to play a part in this, who is kind of the wild card here.

 

[MaulFan]

Did they fix the weird looking Bruce Banner floating head CGI on the Blu-ray? That looked terrible on the big IMAX screen.

Nope, and pretty sure there's a shot too where BP looks at the camera and you see the eye holes in the practical mask that weren't CGIed over.

 

[Chakor]

Yup the bad CGI for Banner is still there. The one thing I kind of hate about Marvel now is that they seem to be taking very cheap routes with a lot of their CGI and relying too much on it (like Ragnarok, GotG2, and BP where some of it looked horribly unfinished); as if they cheap out because they know the movies will make bank either way.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I forgot that all the original Avengers lived: Cap, BW, Thor, Hulk, IM, even Hawkeye somewhere... just Fury got dusted. Always the black guy.

Also, Dr. Strange's prediction about "one" future where they win almost seems too apparent. The fact that he does exactly what he says he won't: hand over the stone -- clearly the set-up to create this 'one outcome' and he can't tell Tony or it changes the outcome. But its also likely that that one situation is a red herring and will go awry in some way... but then when they ultimately win, Strange will say "See".

 

[jye4ever]

What blew my mind watching it again at home is how almost every character is asked to make a sacrifice decision on another character.

It is literally in almost every scene where 2 or more characters are interacting!

Stark/Spiderman
Strange/Stark/Spiderman
Quill/Gamora
Loki/Thor
Heimdell/Thor
Wanda/Vision
Cap/Vision
Rhodey/Ross
Gamora/Nebula
Groot/Thor
Eitri/Thanos
Eitri/Thor
Quill/Thanos
Thanos/Gamora
Strange/Thanos

I mean it just keeps going and going.


Hell even Collector/Thanos lol

Is protecting the stone important?
Is protecting a single character important?
Is protecting the greater good over a single character important?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Also awesome is that Thanos knows Quill will pay-off later. He says "I like you" and lets him live. Then, by doing so, allows his own escape from his near glove-loss sequence... taunting Quill to help free him.

 

[jye4ever]

Yes exactly that!

 

[a-dev]

Hmm, I didn't see Thanos as taunting Quill in that scene unless there was dialogue I'm forgetting.

That was one of the best scenes of the film for me. The desperation in Tony's voice when he shouts at Starlord. They are making headway in getting the glove off Thanos but he can see whats about to happen.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Hmm, I didn't see Thanos as taunting Quill in that scene unless there was dialogue I'm forgetting.

In regards to Gamora's murder, Thanos confirms for Star-Lord by saying: I ... had... to...

 

[Khev]

What blew my mind watching it again at home is how almost every character is asked to make a sacrifice decision on another character.

It is literally in almost every scene where 2 or more characters are interacting!

Stark/Spiderman
Strange/Stark/Spiderman
Quill/Gamora
Loki/Thor
Heimdell/Thor
Wanda/Vision
Cap/Vision
Rhodey/Ross
Gamora/Nebula
Groot/Thor
Eitri/Thanos
Eitri/Thor
Quill/Thanos
Thanos/Gamora
Strange/Thanos

I mean it just keeps going and going.


Hell even Collector/Thanos lol

Is protecting the stone important?
Is protecting a single character important?
Is protecting the greater good over a single character important?

Yep, an awesome overlapping through-line that faces almost every hero and villain in the film.

And even though Thanos always lectures that what he does serves the greater good I believe that he tips his hand during the scene where he holds Gamora out in front of Star-Lord and taunts him to try and kill her. Now obviously Thanos prevents Star-Lord's gun from going off but to me the scene plays like he would have laughed off her death or even praised Star-Lord for it after the fact.

Because that was a pretty damn big risk Thanos was taking if he didn't pull off the bubble trick just right. She dies and then his entire life goal is forever unachievable. I think that that scene shows that at the end of the day part of the reason that Thanos wants to provide "balance" to the universe is simply because it's the ultimate excuse to kill off trillions of people. And I'm sure from Thanos' point of view he even believes his own rhetoric from time to time. But ultimately what he truly gets off on is simply performing the deed of executing people or watching others execute people.

I thinking protecting people, even if they need to be protected in order to ensure that he gets the full gauntlet, is just such an alien concept to him that he can easily be derailed as evidenced in the scene with Gamora and Star-Lord. That's my take anyway. I can see how others might just assume that he was always 100% fully in control and that there was never a danger that Star-Lord might inadvertently kill her. But I'm not so sure.

Because all throughout the film he never seems to really care *that* much about balance and he never compliments anyone or shows respect toward anyone who is good at creating balance, he only respects or compliments those who kill or are willing to sacrifice for a cause. And that's what seems to be the greatest hint as to his true nature and why questions like "why doesn't he snap his fingers and double the universe's resources" are very easily answered.

 

[a-dev]

In regards to Gamora's murder, Thanos confirms for Star-Lord by saying: I ... had... to...

I remembered that line. I think Thanos was being entirely genuine in that scene though. I don't think it was a deliberate intention to make Starlord **** up.

 

[MaulFan]

Hmm, I didn't see Thanos as taunting Quill in that scene unless there was dialogue I'm forgetting.

That was one of the best scenes of the film for me. The desperation in Tony's voice when he shouts at Starlord. They are making headway in getting the glove off Thanos but he can see whats about to happen.

What's great about that moment is that it pulls you in so strongly that you feel they're going to pull it off, same when Wanda destroys vision's stone, the music and all the other Avengers fighting off Thanos leading to it builds you up to feel like they're going to succeed.

 

[Khev]

What's great about that moment is that it pulls you in so strongly that you feel they're going to pull it off, same when Wanda destroys vision's stone, the music and all the other Avengers fighting off Thanos leading to it builds you up to feel like they're going to succeed.

Yep, technically the Avengers "won" in preventing Thanos from getting the last stone until he cheated by using the time stone. Which then makes anything that the heroes do in the next film as a result of Strange cheating with the time stone less of a cheat since they'll just be undoing Thanos' original cheat, lol.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I remembered that line. I think Thanos was being entirely genuine in that scene though. I don't think it was a deliberate intention to make Starlord **** up.

I like to think that Thanos, while being out-of-it thru Mantis, is still in there, somewhere, trying desperately to get out of this situation... and is cognizant enough to recognize Star-Lord's anger as a way out. He's tips Star-Lord's hand.

Watch that scene again, watch Thanos as Star-Lord comes to the realization...

 

[a-dev]

I'll be happy to. It's great to be able to have a discussion like this about Thanos (and him being a CG character at that). I don't know how comic accurate his characterization is but they succeeded in making him a compelling villain - and considering that 10 years worth of films had been building to this, that was very important and quite the achievement.

 

[Khev]

they succeeded in making him a compelling villain

With his more than competent henchmen and Red Skull as icing on the cake no less.

 

[jye4ever]

Just the single fact that the Russo’s gave us a giant Dinklage makes this movie a win.

 

[jye4ever]

Watch Red Skull kill Thanos and become the bigger baddie then Doom kills Red Skull to become the ultimate baddie ever

The last act of this movie is the same as RO, thrilling and gives me goosebumps.

When Stark gets stabbed I still got chills!

 

[Wor-Gar]

I'll be happy to. It's great to be able to have a discussion like this about Thanos (and him being a CG character at that). I don't know how comic accurate his characterization is but they succeeded in making him a compelling villain - and considering that 10 years worth of films had been building to this, that was very important and quite the achievement.

Villain's are so important, and up to now I had little faith in Marvel to give us a truly great villain -- but man, they made up for it. It is indeed quite an achievement.

With his more than competent henchmen and Red Skull as icing on the cake no less.

Yeah, I like Maw nearly as much as Thanos. That battle in the streets of NY is one of my favorite parts. There's just no stopping Maw.

 

[jye4ever]

Thor experienced

Dead father
Dead mother
Dead brother
Dead evil sister
Dead gatekeeper
Dead Warriors 3

Damn MCU and their silly comedic movies lol