Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (May 4, 2018)
This stupidity is gettin' out of hands so I'll break my word and state the most obvious things:
The scene takes place in 1991 on some country road between Stark's house and Pentagon.
No way all of those lighting posts had hidden cameras built in.
And even if they had (which is impossible), they'd spot WS way before the attack.
Now let's say the whole operation was covered by sleepin' HYDRA agents (which is impossible)... Why would WS care to shoot a camera then, and just one? Especially AFTER the attack?
Why didn't he had his mask on durin' this operation?
Like everyone else, Howard thought that Bucky was dead... Why would his reaction to seein' WS be "help my wife, Sergeant Barnes"?
And that's just one scene.
But...so OK, it *seems* to be generally agreed (if nothing else) that the hit took place on a country road which probably was a direct route to the Starks' plush mansion.
1. IMO in an environment like that - or at least the footage I've seen of folks w. that kind of stuff - there's not that many cameras (unless you are heading to Langley, apparently). One or several along a road, maybe more at the front and back doors - anywhere there's an entrance. Not on every tree. Also, I'm gonna think that Stark (like his son) is cocky and arrogant at times - e.g.
the serum was in his house, where his wife and son were. E.g. Stark didn't have enough security and didn't think he or his family would be a target. Stark wasn't LOOKING for anyone to attack him - there's no reaction when the motorcycle pulls up next to the car either. There's no kind of bodyguard.
2. The camera wasn't state of the art anyway. It was VHS tape, unmonitored, on a road. Maybe the house itself would have had better alarms. And who says it was hidden? From the angle you can't tell. Might be a garden-variety surveillance camera stuck on a tree, because WS just shoots it. We never get a look at the actual camera.
3. WS and maybe other Hydra picked a good spot to stage an accident. Studied it.
That particular stretch of road w. woods and not a lot of room to maneuver (motorcycle). Not a lot of traffic. The point was the environment. The camera was meaningless - WS or Hydra knew about it, and the camera was going to be destroyed anyway w. no evidence left behind. WS handler's probably wanted the tape of the operation if they could get it - proof of HS death would make Hydra happy
; after it was over why not destroy the camera? WS is probably just following mission protocols: 1. Get serum; 2. No witnesses; 3. Destroy or retrieve evidence.
Besides, if you shoot a camera out of a tree and THEN pull a tape, you didn't have to climb a tree in the dark to get the tape *not as cool*.
We don't know what the camera looked like or where the tape was housed. Only that it was 1991 tech and probably bulky by today's standards. Or the tape was elsewhere and either WS or other Hydra took it, and WS was just making sure by getting rid of the fact there ever WAS a camera. No point in looking for something that's just GONE.
(Also leaves the door open that the U.S. military/CIA
knew this was a hit, but either helped fudge the accident story or outright made the story up, because the U.S. doesn't want anyone to know they were, essentially, making more super soldiers. Esp. with Thunderbolt Ross/Abomination etc.)
4. Why have a mask on? WS only seems to wear that in an urban environment where there might be more surveillance. Especially w. more " in current time" hits like Fury.
He doesn't need it where everyone's either Hydra or gonna be dead anyway. Or in a dark woods.
5. Anyone w. head injury or drugs is gonna be pretty fuzzy about what's goin' on around them.
Anyway I don't have a problem w. this scene.
