AVP:Requiem - SPOILER THREAD

[MaulFan]

Well i enjoyed it more when i watched it again, Wolf made this movie for sure man

Definitely, if he'd have sucked my enjoyment would have been possibly less than AVP.

 

[Praetorian380]

I cant wait for this on Blu-Ray!

Its gonna be awesome in Hi Def!

 

[Les Walker]

All I know is, I got more Pred and Alien action in a movie. I know, it could have been better. Much better. Haven't we all said this already?
Mumbo Jumbo! Mumbo Jumbo! So what. For about an hour and a half, I was happy, even in this silly movie.
Plus, it has cool toys, and I can put them on my shelf and imagine a better movie anyway.
I went in expecting nothing, and it gave me The Wolf, and it also had Aliens, so I am ok.

Now, on the the extended DVD! :chew

And for what it's worth, I like AVP. in many ways it was WAY more sophisticated a movie than this one. So, what the hell.

 

[Riko]

avp-r might have been bad, but it was certainly better than avp.

Everyone's entitled to their own tastes, but I agree that AVPR had more to enjoy. There was nothing other than the hand-to-hand Pred-Alien fight and the Scar-Queen fight that stands out as highlights from AVP. It wasn't anything special. With AVPR, I enjoyed the score, the camera work for the most part, creature design and effects, and the Wolf Pred's character. Sadly those nice elements were swirled in amidst a sea of crap, but the ammount of run time in the film that they occupied is far higher than the high points of AVP for me. I still watch AVP, but of the 2 AVP films, I'll elect to watch AVPR more often.

I respect all your opinions of course

but allow me to explain in detail as for WHY I prefer avp MUCH MORE than avp:r thru simple rules of filmmaking:
Imagery, this is very essential in this kind of movie! Problem here with AvP:R you just could not see the action. When falling a sleep in front off it, you would just be missing the same as watching it, because the cinematography was just plain bad, I hope you guys also agree with that? otherwise I do not understand if you guys call yoursef Alien (or Predator) fan. The original movies where the reference in terms of bringing supence to the screen...
Here there was no suspence, no nothing.
Did you guys see the same movie? Because it flaws were quite obvious...
Even when you look at the director of photography you can see he has no experience what so ever in making a movie...just music-videoclips
https://imdb.com/name/nm0669050/
and then all of a sudden he is dropped into this action-franchise...hmm

and this comment on imdb is a good reflection of what the film really is:
"Alien vs. Predator: Requiem is a franchise-killer. It's not even good enough to be as bad as a straight-to-video teen slasher such as, "I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer." To those just looking for some fun action and gore -- look somewhere else. Most of the kills in AVP:R are ultra-fast or off-screen. A few tiny snips and the film could have been a PG-13.

Even Paul Anderson's PG-13 AVP abomination left 2 of the greatest monsters in sci-fi history with a little bit of dignity intact. The Brothers Strause, with their inability to properly stage or direct an action or suspense scene, have made both creatures look like B-grade monsters that should be hidden in a Black Lagoon somewhere.

The Aliens aren't kept in the dark to create a mood -- they're kept there to hide their low-budget appearance and their director's inability to direct. The Predator walks around like a WWE wrestler, grunting at everyone and using blue ooze to melt victims in an attempt to cover his tracks (but, at the same time, he skins other people alive and leaves them hanging from trees).

Next time the Predator race decide to send only 1 of their peeps to represent, they may want to reconsider sending the mentally handicapped guy in the bunch. Or was this the Alien and Predator's version of the Special Olympics? As for the humans? Who cares? Obviously not the filmmakers. There's no believable human character to follow, identify or empathize with. It's just some 25 year old actors playing teenagers with a few older characters thrown in to attract the adult demographic who watched Alien and Predator movies when they were still good.

The best thing anyone could get out of Alien vs. Predator: Requiem is a refund. If you have any respect left for either of these franchises or simply value your free time stay far, far away from this movie. Hopefully the Strause brothers will stay just as far away from a camera, before taking it upon themselves to defecate all over another beloved film franchise."

and okay, avp may be bad, but at least it was enjoyable...
the camerawork and the effects were great! you could actually see what happend in a professional way!

I would only give avp:r a chance if they would reshoot the darn thing, because at least 50% of the whole experience got lost, just because of bad photograpy (and lighting )

and actually also the human characters, I cannot help myself but feeling annoyed by them, the only things they could say in the movie was ****, ****, ******, scream,...they could have done a whole lot better there too.
As for the R-rating??? becaus it was so badly captured, you couldn't even notice you were looking at an R-rated movie! (execpt from the scene where the predalien shuved something in the pregnant woman's neck )

By far avp was better on the technical side ánd on the story-side (wich was by itself not so good either when compared to the original movies of course)
The sad thing is that the first movie had more redeeming qualities than this waste!
I was, from the bottom of my alien-franchise fan-heart, disgussed by this movie...

 

[Riko]

Far from a "flop" like a few have mentioned here. I would have to think that all but guarantees an AVP3.

$121,223,815 worldwide as for now

avp: $171,251,996 worldwide, so apv2 has still got a long way to go... and I think this gives an idea of how succesful avp:R was.

I think the word has spread around fast how bad this movie is...

 

[Blackhole]

It's not hard to make something better than AvP...

This, as a film, was pretty poor, but it was harmless fun...well, not for the characters...

And I love how good they're getting with the creatures...

Not that they were bad to start with...

 

[Riko]

It's not hard to make something better than AvP...

This, as a film, was pretty poor, but it was harmless fun...well, not for the characters...

And I love how good they're getting with the creatures...

Not that they were bad to start with...

lol, you're sounding like you're talking about some experiment, pré-screening or so, whereafther the makers would make improvements

nono, this AvP:R is an actual movie, it is the finished result

sometimes it seems that many people actually do have low standards when it comes to monster movies...very sad indeed

 

[Blackhole]

Nah, I meant compared to the other films...

It's good to see that they got the whole physics of the aliens thing right...

In AvP, when the Celtic Pred is fighting the soon-to-be grid alien, watch when he knocks the alien over...

It rolls around again and again...that just made it look bad...

But there's none of that in this film...

As for it being the finished result, there was talk of an extended DVD edition was there not?

Hopefully it won't be some stupid scene like that one in the extended AvP...

I paid good money for the extras...

 

[Riko]

Nah, I meant compared to the other films...

It's good to see that they got the whole physics of the aliens thing right...

In AvP, when the Celtic Pred is fighting the soon-to-be grid alien, watch when he knocks the alien over...

It rolls around again and again...that just made it look bad...

But there's none of that in this film...

As for it being the finished result, there was talk of an extended DVD edition was there not?

Hopefully it won't be some stupid scene like that one in the extended AvP...

I paid good money for the extras...

yeah okay, the physics might be better, but who cares if the movie sucks!

I'd rather watch a good movie where you actually can see the action and feel te suspens and tension, like in Alien or Aliens (to give thé best examples), than watch the weakest link of an already ****ed up franchise with good physics

And I do not believe that some extra scens is gonna make the movie better, the existing movie will stay and it sucked! so what can extra scenes do to forget the bad movie? nothing, the only solution is to remake that movie with another camera-guy! but than you will have the other problem: character development...


Just want to ask to the alien pro's here: but what was bad about the pysics in AvP? (I assume that only in that movie they got the physics wrong?)

 

[MaulFan]

I have no clue what the whole "physics" issues is even all about.

Both AVP films are ok, but neither embody the fine qualities of the original films of their respective series. AVPR tapped into a few more elements than AVP, but unfortunately they got lost in a weak plot and fanboys gone wild. All in all, I took more away from AVPR, I liked Wolf and grew invested in the character, where I didn't care at all about any AVP Preds. AVPR felt like a closer step towards having Alien and Predator films of old, but still quite a journey before it happens.

 

[Praetorian380]

Looks like we will be getting this on Blu Ray officially on April 15th

Here is the article
https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/...dies_Alien_vs._Predator:_Requiem_Blu-ray/1428

 

[Blackhole]

Empire magazine described it as more of a soap opera than a film from either franchise...

But all 'vs' movies suffer this problem, where the human cast may as well have not been there...


Well...except Freddy vs Jason...gotta have victims...

 

[Jamal]

Blu Ray so soon eh?

 

[Riko]

Empire magazine described it as more of a soap opera than a film from either franchise...

that's to much of a compliment

 

[King Darkness]

This movie sux! I am only about half way through, but I had to come on to the board to keep from falling asleep

 

[drunk_leprechaun]

This movie sux! I am only about half way through, but I had to come on to the board to keep from falling asleep

Oh, Boohoo!

 

[Jamal]

You like it more the next time around

 

[abake]

Nah, I watched it twice and it didn't get any better.
Not that I hated it, but I actually enjoyed AvP more. At least it felt more like an Alien or Predator movie, whereas this felt just like some monster movie.

 

[Jamal]

I was one of the biggest haters lol but i liked it more the second time around

 

[The Chaver]

I saw the movie the other day on the net and I thought it sucked major ass.
Everything moved too fast.I thought the idea of the wolf Predator coming to erase any knowledge of the his and the Aliens kind with that blue ***** was ridiculaous.Why would he need to do that?Why would the predators race even give a *****.Fine..come to earth and exterminate the Aliens because they might be a future threat.But to wipe out all knowledge of them with the blue gue was retarded.

All the human characters sucked as well.That scene were the kid goes to the chicks house and delivers the pizza and gets his ass kicked by the jocks made me want to ralph on my keyboard.The whole human to human interaction was sickening,same as AVP.

And I thought that there were a lot of references to the old movies that were actually good movies.But they we're delivered in a cheesy rip off kind of way.

I did think some of the fight scenes were kinda cool.Oh and the predator was the only reason to watch this movie.

I give AVP-R three thumbs down.