Bane vs Loki
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intothevoid
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A guy that was taken out by a chick was more threatening than a god?
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Loki never made me believe he had godlike powers. It was all spectacle.
Bane's dismantling of Batman in the first fight alone makes him better than Loki. Not by the fact that he beat Batman, but the manner it was acted. That scene was pitch perfect.
The scene with Daggett is also pretty ominous.
Loki? Scarecrow was more threatening than Loki ever was.
SnakeDoctor
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Bane. More formidible. Loki is a bit dainty ... and came off as more of a jealous little brother than a genuine threat to any hero (much less all of them). The team was gathered, not for Loki, but for the alien bug army that came in behind him.
Bane was, individually, a much more genuine threat to both Gotham and Batman.
SnakeDoc
Bane was, individually, a much more genuine threat to both Gotham and Batman.
SnakeDoc
Really....? because in the movie I saw, Loki stayed in that cage until he was ready to come out. Then he DID come out, put Thor in his place and then stabbed Coulson in the back for good measure.
He was "easily defeated by Thor"? Really? because the version I recall had him stabbing Thor in the ribs and then handily decamping the scene via Chitauri assault-vehicle. I also recall him hurling Stark out of his own house. And he smiled when he did it.
If you prefer Bane that is fine, but let's be honest about what happened here.
screamingmetal
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Bane has a Caribbean accent.
SnakeDoctor
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Uncanny Web-Slinger
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Which is funny as they didn't know about them until after Cap, Widow, Iron Man & Banner had already joined
(Thor told them of the chitauri after Cap, Banner & Iron Man were recruited and then Cap, Iron Man & Widow went off to capture Loki)
SnakeDoctor
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Which is funny as they didn't know about them until after Cap, Widow, Iron Man & Banner had already joined
(Thor told them of the chitauri after Cap, Banner & Iron Man were recruited and then Cap, Iron Man & Widow went off to capture Loki)
So what? They still didn't need all of them for Loki. Thor by himself. Or Hulk by himself. Probably Iron Man by himself. Overkill is underrated.
One part-time guy for Loki -- the rest for the invasion.
SnakeDoc
TheProcrastinator
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Bane all the way. Formidable, terrifying and intriguing.
Nolan's take on Bane, blows the comic book potrayals out of the water. Bane in TDKR is a terrifying fanatic, the very epitome of a super-villain terrorist and a walking juggernaut. The comic version was simply a big, overmuscled, hairy wannabe-luchador, Hardy's version is a real menace who doesn't need caricatural frame, to be imposing. The guy oozes voilence and fanatical conviction. One look and You know he means buisness. There is an aura of constant physical threat and utter ruthlessness about the guy (which I believe is far more in essence of the character, than just grotesquely huge musculature). Even his somewhat underdeveloped, rough physique attests to that. Hardy looks like a real thick-necked brute, not a clean-cut male model. There is even a promise of danger in the very way he moves, always walking, never running. Like a guy that knows what he is capable of and doesn't need to show off.
Unlike Joker who didn't give a **** about anything and was a chaotic anarchist, Bane has specific, ambitious plans for Gotham and is going to force them with practical, surgical violence and carnage. Bane in TDKR is someone who despite his great intelect, is nonetheless driven by some misguided and pathetic beliefs, that he is trying to force upon the world at gun-point. A mix between a neo-natzi militant and a romantic revolutionary. Hardy also brings a certain subtlety to the role. His eyes show intellect, his over-the-top, out-of-place voice brings a creepy quality to him. You can even see it in the way he handles and kills people. The scene where he murders Dagget is chilling. First he lightly places the side of his hand on Dagget shoulder, then touches him delicately, almost carresing him, finally he slowly grabs him by the face and breaks him.
Comic book movies needed a character like this. Every superhero movie is filled with ridiculous, flashy villans that are either unintentionaly silly, or simply bland. Bane works almost like the classical movie mosters, dominating every frame, while being interesting and terrifying at the same time.
Plus, he looked badass in that coat
But props have to go to Loki as well, as he is probably the most charismatic and fleshed out villian in Marvel films.
Nolan's take on Bane, blows the comic book potrayals out of the water. Bane in TDKR is a terrifying fanatic, the very epitome of a super-villain terrorist and a walking juggernaut. The comic version was simply a big, overmuscled, hairy wannabe-luchador, Hardy's version is a real menace who doesn't need caricatural frame, to be imposing. The guy oozes voilence and fanatical conviction. One look and You know he means buisness. There is an aura of constant physical threat and utter ruthlessness about the guy (which I believe is far more in essence of the character, than just grotesquely huge musculature). Even his somewhat underdeveloped, rough physique attests to that. Hardy looks like a real thick-necked brute, not a clean-cut male model. There is even a promise of danger in the very way he moves, always walking, never running. Like a guy that knows what he is capable of and doesn't need to show off.
Unlike Joker who didn't give a **** about anything and was a chaotic anarchist, Bane has specific, ambitious plans for Gotham and is going to force them with practical, surgical violence and carnage. Bane in TDKR is someone who despite his great intelect, is nonetheless driven by some misguided and pathetic beliefs, that he is trying to force upon the world at gun-point. A mix between a neo-natzi militant and a romantic revolutionary. Hardy also brings a certain subtlety to the role. His eyes show intellect, his over-the-top, out-of-place voice brings a creepy quality to him. You can even see it in the way he handles and kills people. The scene where he murders Dagget is chilling. First he lightly places the side of his hand on Dagget shoulder, then touches him delicately, almost carresing him, finally he slowly grabs him by the face and breaks him.
Comic book movies needed a character like this. Every superhero movie is filled with ridiculous, flashy villans that are either unintentionaly silly, or simply bland. Bane works almost like the classical movie mosters, dominating every frame, while being interesting and terrifying at the same time.
Plus, he looked badass in that coat
But props have to go to Loki as well, as he is probably the most charismatic and fleshed out villian in Marvel films.
Uncanny Web-Slinger
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Charismatic yeah. I'd say Magneto is the most fleshed out
TheProcrastinator
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True dat. For some reason I am always gilty of forgetting the x-men when thinking about Marvel movie franchise. Probably becouse of all the pre-avengers films.
Morbach
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In Tom Hardy's book he mentions all the things that his character had to do. He said Bane is a genius and speaks 6 different languages as well as a very good detective. He spent 5 or 6 months doing detective work to find out Bruce Wayne is Batman. Thought that was pretty cool that he had a very similar back story to the comics with detective work and all.
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Nope.
Wasn't the comic version a self made man with a moral code and a sense of honor? He even worked with Batman from time to time I believe. TDKR Bane had no honor. He gets whipped in a fight? He crosses a line and despartely puts a shotgun to his opponents head.
The comic version was improsined and escaped by himself. He trained by himself. He strategically defeated Batman by tiring him out, and watching/studying him closely. He even deduced he was. He didn't go up against a rusty, 8 year hermit. TDKR needed a little girl and a League of crazies that despised and excommunicated him. TDKR Bane beat a tired, old has been that didn't have any fight in him that was all self inflicted.
The original interpretation makes the movie version look one-demensional in comparison. The only Bane the TDKR version tops is the Batman and Robin version, which wasn't hard to top.
And TDK Joker kills Bane. He's so much better as an antagonist to Batman it's not even funny. No comparison.
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BB&WSF
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This is the Bane I like 
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlBuL6wul_w&playnext=1&list=PLD251EA7680E87FF4&feature=results_main[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlBuL6wul_w&playnext=1&list=PLD251EA7680E87FF4&feature=results_main[/ame]
Morbach
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In the comics Batman's so exhausted that he could barely take on street thugs. Batman was completely broken.
What's so different from that than beating up an older 8 year hermit? In the movie Batman was still a G and kicking lots of ***. Other than Bane, Batman still had his **** together. He wasn't as bad off as in the comics and Bane still destroyed him.
that sounds like a better and more interesting story than we got. I would have loved to see that in the movie actually, makes me mad about the movie
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Bane is the one that orchestrates the events to exhaust Batman.
That didn't happen with TDKR with Bane.
SnakeDoctor
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The difference is that comic Bane is why Batman was exhausted. It was part of the strategy ... rope-a-dope Batman and tire him out, then break him.
It isn't enitrely clear in TDKR that Bane even expected Batman to come back at all. His plan would've worked without Batman. They should've played-up the Bane-detective-work to find out who Batman is.
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