Batman : Arkham Origins (2013) Asylum Prequel

[Buttmunch]

Uh, no. It didn't.

New 52 started in August:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_52

Arkham City came out in October:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Arkham_City

...and, even if that wasn't the case, Earth One didnt come out until July of last year, yet, lo and behold, there was a skin for it.

Could have sworn AC came out the October before the New 52. My bad.

 

[DiFabio]

Robin/Grayson from BTAS was pretty damn great. For me, that has always been my favorite interpretation of Robin. I also liked the idea of him helping Batman when he was older, in college. That made sense to me.

"Robin's Reckoning" is one of the best episodes of the series and shows why Batman wouldn't just "work alone". Wayne relates to the kid, takes him in. It makes sense to me.


Do I prefer a darker, solo Batman? Sure. But that sort of Batman starts to get old after awhile. Robin is as important and iconic to the mythos as Joker, Catwoman, etc. He's just a year younger than Batman as far as first appearances ago and has lasted for 70 plus years. I'd say that's a strong character. The "Dynamic Duo" and that image of the two of them is as iconic as "The Dark Knight" or the "Caped Crusader".



As far as Arkham City goes. Hooded Robin didn't do much for me. Most of the recent Robin interpretations haven't. I hated "Robin" Blake. If you're going to utilize the character, don't be afraid to dive right in and use it to it's full potential.



Also, Robin is the only ally of Batman I'll take (along with Alfred and Gordon obviously. I hate that "Bat-Family" stuff. When you start having multiple Robins, Batgirls, Batwomen, Azrael, Spoiler, etc. etc. it gets a little weird.


For me, Robin (Grayson), Alfred and Gordon are plenty.

 

[ironwez20]

For me personally I prefer Tim drake robin as he was just a dark as batman and in the future he is batman but is extreme. He killed duela dent with a gun for example. Not sure about new 52 tim drake. Heard they mucked up the TT

 

[ZaCHw117]

The "older" versions of Robin I can live with, the TAS Robin wasn't enjoyable, but it didn't stop me from watching the show. Like I said, I have no problem with an older, "partner" character (Like what ironwez is talking about above), but the little kid Robin I just can't stand.

 

[DiFabio]

What was wrong with The Animated Series Robin? He was an older version.


Have you seen Robin’s Reckoning Part I and Part II Zach? It's great stuff.

 

[DarkMagic]

Fair enough. On the topic of the game, since it's a prequel set years ago, and from Batman's much earlier days it's that much less likely that there will be any partner, unless they introduce us to the Arkham City Grayson when he used to be Robin. But that is probably a little too much origin to try to cram into one game.

It's a shame, because while my FIRST big *wish* is a completely open sandbox Gotham game, with access to the Batmobile (and all Batvehicles, Cave, Manor etc..)... a game that isn't Lego...my SECOND biggest wish is a co-op Batman game, where you can turn on or off the sidekick at will, or have one of your friends team up with you in person or online, or have the AI take over for the 2Player (like in Lego).

 

[ZaCHw117]

What was wrong with The Animated Series Robin? He was an older version.


Have you seen Robin’s Reckoning Part I and Part II Zach? It's great stuff.

I have, I own all the TAS episodes on DVD.

Honestly, I can't really pin down why I don't like TAS Robin, I think it's the goofy *** costume.

I remember watching Batman: Subzero on VHS and skipping through all the Robin parts.

Another thing is, growing up I didn't read comics, Batman to me was TAS and Keaton, I knew he was a comic book character but could care less, it's what I grew up with. So I may be a bit biased.

 

[DarkMagic]

Another thing is, growing up I didn't read comics, Batman to me was TAS and Keaton, I knew he was a comic book character but could care less, it's what I grew up with. So I may be a bit biased.

No prob. I'm kind of the opposite. I had vague idea about Batman as a comic character before the 89 movie came out, but that's the thing that really launched my interest in the character, made me want to buy the comics and find out everything I could about his universe. It got to the to the point that the movies, and even TAS (as great as it was) became secondary to me. I just wanted to know as much as I could about it beyond what was easily available on TV.

It's come full circle for me to the point that I don't even read the comics that much anymore, and haven't seen much of the post-TAS/TNBA Batman cartoons (or even many eps of Justice League within the Timmverse)...and now I mostly read nonfiction books about Batman, like philosophy of the character.

 

[cokebabies]

Can someone PM me when this thread isn't awful?

Thanks!

 

[Russell1982]

I'd really love to get some movie skins too. I'm actually suprised we didn't get any with the last game, but hopefully we will in this one. Batman 89 and Batman Begins skins would be awesome. I think a 60's West Batman skin would be hilariously fun to play as too, and now that DC have rights to use the 60's likenesses it could be a definite possibility. A New 52 skin seems like a no-brainer and I'm sure a few other comic themed skins will show up.
I wonder if they'd include an Arkham City Batman skin too?

I know right? Really surprised we didn't get any movie skins, but perhaps there was more to it, like some kind of rights thing, even though its all Warner bros. who knows. But yeah, the 89 suit would be an awesome inclusion, such a classic look. And the begins suit would look stunning. I agree about the 60's west look, would no doubt be a lot of fun to play and really hoping they include it if we get skins. Would be quite a laugh. I'd also love another blue and grey outfit but with slightly more muted colours. I loved the norm breyfogle era.

Bonus points is there are different animations. Imagine little "pow" and "Wam" bubbles popping up over enemies heads with every hit.

Haha, that'd actually be quite hilarious.

Yeah, I don't know why we didn't get a New 52 skin in the last one; it seems like it would've been a no brainer, considering the timing and all that.

Yeah, I kinda think of the batman inc skin as probably their inclusion of a modern era suit. Plus the earth one skin, I guess they wanted to include more classic ones with things like year one, TDKR, 70's, animated series etc.

Oh and just to throw my two cents into the robin debate, I wasn't a fan of robin for a long time either but got into the character through tim drake. His inclusion, from a kid helping out batman, working in the cave and doing intel while in training was a great build up to him actually becoming robin. And that cover (I forget which issue) whit him a bats on a building ledge with a spotlight on them is one of my favourite comic book covers. Loved the character from then on. Was really enjoying Damian too. But I guess it's horses for courses.

 

[Darth Zangetsu]

For me personally I prefer Tim drake robin as he was just a dark as batman and in the future he is batman but is extreme. He killed duela dent with a gun for example. Not sure about new 52 tim drake. Heard they mucked up the TT

If you like Tim, then yeah they screwed the pooch. Some writers say he was never Robin, others are saying all of Batman's previous stories took place. It's an absolute mess. They should have just hard rebooted Batman like everyone else. Introduce **** Grayson as a kid again. But that would have been easy and made sense. But according to Scott Snyder(the guy in charge of the Batverse now) Tim Drake was Robin, All of Batman's old stories still happened....

 

[batfan08]

Snyder's word is law. I do not like Lobdell's stuff; therefore, I do not care what his "interpretation" is.

 

[Darth Zangetsu]

Snyder's word is law. I do not like Lobdell's stuff; therefore, I do not care what his "interpretation" is.

Same here. I wish he had tried to fight the whole Damian dying thing. The character was awesome, and his death was pointless. Not to mention it makes Batman look bad. He has had 3 out of 5 Robins die on his watch.

Jason beaten to death by Joker. Retconned back by Superboy prime punching reality.

Stephanie Brown tortured to death by Black Mask, and allowed to die by Leslie Thompkins. Retconned that Leslie faked her death in order to teach Bruce a lesson.

Damian stabbed in the chest by his older clone.

How has CPS not gone after Batman or Bruce Wayne.

 

[Russell1982]

If you like Tim, then yeah they screwed the pooch. Some writers say he was never Robin, others are saying all of Batman's previous stories took place. It's an absolute mess. They should have just hard rebooted Batman like everyone else. Introduce **** Grayson as a kid again. But that would have been easy and made sense. But according to Scott Snyder(the guy in charge of the Batverse now) Tim Drake was Robin, All of Batman's old stories still happened....

This annoyed the hell out of me too. The idea that tim just became his own superhero called red robin that actually had nothing to do with batman or robin was just ridiculous. They should have just kept his history in tact. As well as his costume and series. Could have made for some interesting stories having him feel like he has to go out on his own now that Damian is robin etc. Such a missed opportunity.

 

[Sachiel]

How has CPS not gone after Batman or Bruce Wayne.

 

[batfan08]

They're orphans with no relatives to miss them. Wayne simply says they ran away from home and buries them in shallow graves in the batcave.

 

[sfa]

[ame]https://youtu.be/j4RnA9gUrbs[/ame]

I really get the impression that Eric Holmes (the Creative Director) seems to 'get' the Arkhamverse. Listening to him in the video gives me even more confidence in the game.

I think the fact it's a different studio and it's a prequel is probably why I'm not as excited as I was about AC, but I'm still excited nevertheless going by what we've seen so far.

There's definitely a lot of reservation for Origins, but hopefully it'll turn out solid and suprise a lot of people.

 

[Russell1982]

Great find, man. I'm remaining optimistic about the game. I know its a different studio but it sounds like they really want to live up to the previous games. I also love the idea of a prequel, I reckon it'll make things a bit fresh and exciting again and add something a bit different. Can't wait.

 

[batfan08]

When I watch that video, I get more and more optimistic for this title. They know that there is a level of reverance for the Arkham series, and I got a vibe that they were fans, and that they respected what Rocksteady did just as much as we do. I'm patiently awaiting the first gameplay footage. When do you guys think we'll get our first taste? E3?

 

[Deckard]

Fact is after the Colonial Marines debacle alot of gamers are going and should be aware of outsourcing and false demos being relesed by devs. Top that by taking an already highly successful franchise and doing what could certainly appear as a cash grab if it's true RS is working on a proper sequel and I will remain cautiously optimistic until I start to hear 3rd party feedback from people playing demos etc. The Devs releasing their own video gloating about one another does little in the long run to reassure me about the game.

I'm also guessing this will be a full priced game now, and if they are indeed recycling most of the AC map, it should be just as in-depth and long as AC's story and gameplay. That's my main concern at this point, I don't want a 2-3 hour $60 glorified expansion. Along with making Batman's regression in skill and gadgets make sense and seem natural. I want the combat to feel just like AC but question how that can be possible if it's pre-AA Batman, they need to figure out how to make that work.