Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

More 'realistic' though? Superman, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Shazam? Errrr.

I think a film can have a sense of realism even if the characters aren't realistic. Look at the Nolan Batman film, it's fantasy and silly...but there's still a sense of realism to the world, the acting, and the technology in which all the silliness takes place.

Maybe in the case of BvS, part of the realism comes from how society, the governments, religious people, and other countries view these powerful beings. There's already a glimpse of that in the BvS trailer. That's something the old Christopher Reeve films ignored. The MCU has also explore that aspect, but maybe not to its full potential. Realistically speaking, if Superman was real...the world would change.

 

[a-dev]

I think a film can have a sense of realism even if the characters aren't realistic. Look at the Nolan Batman film, it's fantasy and silly...but there's still a sense of realism to the world, the acting, and the technology in which all the silliness takes place.

Maybe in the case of BvS, part of the realism comes from how society, the governments, religious people, and other countries view these powerful beings. There's already a glimpse of that in the BvS trailer. That's something the old Christopher Reeve films ignore. The MCU has also explore that aspect, but maybe not to its full potential. Realistically speaking, if Superman was real...the world would change.

Okay but that's a choice of approach. The quote was like they were suggesting DC is inherently more realistic which it clearly isn't. In fact some of the DC characters are more absurd and ridiculous than anything Marvel has.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Okay but that's a choice of approach. The quote was like they were suggesting DC is inherently more realistic which it clearly isn't. In fact some of the DC characters are more absurd and ridiculous than anything Marvel has.

Affleck was talking about the film "universe", not necessarily the DC comics, which are rooted in science fiction, fantasy, and mythology, unlike some of the popular Marvel characters.

Affleck shared his thoughts on the differences in the tone of Marvel and DC-based movies.

He said,

It is more mythic, it is more grand in that way, and it is a little more realistic. Just by their nature, these films can’t be as funny or as quick or as glib as Marvel movies.

But I see what you mean because he said by their nature...but I don't necessarily look at it as him talking about the comics. I think he was just talking about the movies they're making.

 

[karamazov80]

I translate that to mean, "not as much humor, more serious." Because these movies are all absurd. You can treat a movie with less humor, like the Nolan films by and large, but a giant tank thing jumping off building tops, insane clown guy or steroid injected freak holding a city hostage, man in Bat suit beating up crooks, etc. Just hard to take that very seriously when you really take it all in. These movies aren't Nebraska, Five Easy Pieces, or the Grapes of Wrath.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I translate that to mean, "not as much humor, more serious." Because these movies are all absurd. You can treat a movie with less humor, like the Nolan films by and large, but a giant tank thing jumping off building tops, insane clown guy or steroid injected freak holding a city hostage, man in Bat suit beating up crooks, etc. Just hard to take that very seriously when you really take it all in. These movies aren't Nebraska, Five Easy Pieces, or the Grapes of Wrath.

What about Lord Of the Rings or Distric 9? Those films are as dramatic and emotional as any "serious drama", but if you take it all in, it's about weird monsters, little people, wizards, and magical rings and all kind of silliness. I don't mind less humor in a superhero film, because I do think the MCU over do it at times with the jokes, to the point that even the villains are trying to be funny, but I'm sure the DC films will have humor once all these characters are interacting with each other. They have to. Batman needs to be serious and some of the humor will probably come from how serious he is when he's dealing with a guy like Green Lantern or Flash.

 

[DiFabio]

I translate that to mean, "not as much humor, more serious." Because these movies are all absurd. You can treat a movie with less humor, like the Nolan films by and large, but a giant tank thing jumping off building tops, insane clown guy or steroid injected freak holding a city hostage, man in Bat suit beating up crooks, etc. Just hard to take that very seriously when you really take it all in. These movies aren't Nebraska, Five Easy Pieces, or the Grapes of Wrath.

Don't forget microwave emitters, cult of ninja dudes, DNA codex skull thing that is transported into baby Kal-El's genitallia and alien terraforming machines.


That's not even counting WB's older DC comics films. How about Superman turning back time, or Superman in general? A man falling into a vat of chemicals and coming out looking like a clown.

 

[jye4ever]

Kara and Clown are actually both correct, so no need to choose wisely.

 

[karamazov80]

What about Lord Of the Rings or Distric 9? Those films are as dramatic and emotional as any serious drama, but if you take it all in, it about weird monsters, little people, wizards, and magical rings and all kind of silliness. I don't mind less humor in a superhero film, because I do think the MCU over do it at times with the jokes, to the point that even the villains are trying to be funny, but I'm sure the DC films will have humor once all these characters are interacting with each other. They have to. Batman needs to be serious and some of the humor will probably come from how serious he is when he's dealing with a guy like Green Lantern or Flash.

I'm not saying a movie can't be effective in a dramatic sense when it's fundamentally silly. I'm not even saying those movies can't be important! Consider ET, or the Wizard of Oz.

That's not even counting WB's older DC comics films. How about Superman turning back time, or Superman in general? A man falling into a vat of chemicals and coming out looking like a clown.

Leave Superman: the Movie out of this, damn you!

 

[Khev]

Maybe he means that there is nothing funny about Man of Steel. It's not a joke when the worlds greatest hero breaks a neck, crashes a satellite and helps destroy a city?

 

[Khev]

But if I create, say, a character who is a talking, conscious pile of dog dung, and place him into the most emotionally heart-wrenching, serious dramatic context I can think of, he's still a pile of dung.

Hey you leave Jai Courtney out of this.

 

[karamazov80]

You know what I would like to see, a real, realistic movie. Where they film an actual fight between Jai Courtney, and Michael Jai White. Match isn't over until the loser leaves in an ambulance.

 

[Khev]

"Whoever loses, we win."

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

What's wrong with Michael Jai White? I've only seen him in Spawn and TDK...but is he like jerk or something?

 

[DiFabio]

I want to see a Face/Off reboot with Jai Courtney and Sam Worthington taking the place of Travolta and Nic Cage.

 

[karamazov80]

Actually, I like Michael Jai White quite a bit! But he's an accomplished martial artist, so. . .

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Actually, I like Michael Jai White quite a bit! But he's an accomplished martial artist, so. . .

Oh, I didn't know that about MJW, cool.

 

[jye4ever]

Actually, I like Michael Jai White quite a bit! But he's an accomplished martial artist, so. . .

He's awesome.

 

[RIDDICK]

I want to see a Face/Off reboot with Jai Courtney and Sam Worthington taking the place of Travolta and Nic Cage.

DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS!

 

[Khev]

You guys like Michael Jai White? I thought he sucked acting opposite Ledger. Might as well put Channing Tatum and Daniel Day Lewis in a scene together.

 

[RIDDICK]

You guys like Michael Jai White? I thought he sucked acting opposite Ledger. Might as well put Channing Tatum and Daniel Day Lewis in a scene together.

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