Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Ok sorry, who sends 97.5% of their police department underground?

Answer: A director who had lost his passion on the subject matter, that's who.

Nolan broke those Imax cameras on purpose.

97% would be impossible in that short amount of time.The fact is, there was no specific number, and clearly there were enough in the city getting hunted like dogs. I know you don't like the film because you've been brainwashed into hating it, but making up reasons to dislike it makes no sense either.

You want to talk about Nolan loosing his passion? Well, let's look at Batman Begins, one of your favorites. The entire plot makes no sense...the villain spent months poisoning the water, but no one got sick because the only way the chemical affects people is by inhaling the toxic, which is why they needed the microwave machine to vaporize the water.

Apparently no one in Gotham boils water or takes a hot shower...even the guy selling the hot dogs to the corrupt cop was boiling water, yet no one in the city was going crazy...when there should have been millions going crazy....that's plain DUMB. Bad writing...but hey, that film gets a pass because it's only cool to dislike Rises because it's not flawless...unlike Begins...oh wait.

Oh and the ending, makes no sense either. Batman jumps into the train to fight Ra's ...why? Batman had just sent Gordon to destroy one of the monorail supports so that the train couldn't reach Wayne Tower. Ra's didn't know.. so why would Batman even need to get on the train? In fact, why didn't Ra's just start at Wayne Tower to begin with? He said they had "infiltrated every level of Gotham's infrastructure," so surely they would've had access to Wayne Tower....but hey, that's Nolan's perfect masterpiece for ya.

 

[crows]

I used to hate rises
But then I learned to love it.

Now I watch it with great pleasure

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I used to hate rises
But then I learned to love it.

Now I watch it with great pleasure

It's far from perfect, but a few people here don't like it for the silliest reasons, yet they like other films which are just as flawed

 

[jye4ever]

Ok, that's it....

 

[jye4ever]

97% would be impossible in that short amount of time.The fact is, there was no specific number, and clearly there were enough in the city getting hunted like dogs. I know you don't like the film because Difabio and Khev probably brainwashed into hating it, but making up reasons to dislike it makes no sense either.

You want to talk about Nolan loosing his passion? Well, let's look at Batman Begins, one of your favorites. The entire plot makes no sense...the villain spent months poisoning the water, but no one got sick because the only way the chemical affects people is by inhaling the toxic, which is why they needed the microwave machine to vaporize the water. Apparently no one in Gotham boils water or takes a hot shower...even the guy selling the hot dogs to the corrupt cop was boiling water, yet no one in the city was going crazy...when there should have been millions going crazy....that's plain DUMB. Bad writing...but hey, that film gets a pass because it's only cool to dislike Rises because it's not flawless...unlike Begins...oh wait.

It's far from perfect, but a few people here don't like it for the silliest reasons, yet they like other films which are just as flawed

The 8 year thing plus that ending and asking for me to believe that Harding could lift anyone over his head left me cold.

BB was ground breaking in its portrayal of BW coming to be the Batman.

TDKR pissed away the incredible build up from BB/TDK.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

The 8 year thing plus that ending and asking for me to believe that Harding could lift anyone over his head left me cold.

Ok, that's fine, just remember that Begins and TDK aren't perfect either. I find the ending of all the Nolan Batman films silly, but so what...I still like them. Although, if you take out the Joker from TDK, that film is super boring, IMO.

 

[crows]

TDK is perfect though.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

TDKR pissed away the incredible build up from BB/TDK.

Because he retired?

 

[RIDDICK]

TDK is perfect though.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

TDK is perfect though.

No...not really...not even close.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Even that video didn't talk about how The Joker knew somehow that the police was going to leave him in the interrogation room with a cop in there with him Why not stay outside the door...you know...away from the psychopath? DUMB...

 

[jye4ever]

Ok, that's fine, just remember that Begins and TDK aren't perfect either. I find the ending of all the Nolan Batman films silly, but so what...I still like them. Although, if you take out the Joker from TDK, that film is super boring, IMO.

TDK is perfect though.

Sure, looking back on TDK, the flaws can be found.

But that's looking back at it because in the theater it certainly felt perfect all thanks to that incredible interrogation and strong powerful ending.

TDKR was already not feeling right before walking in.

Then I watched and cringed.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Sure, looking back on TDK, the flaws can be found.

But that's looking back at it because in the theater it certainly felt perfect all thanks to that incredible interrogation and strong powerful ending.

Not me, the moment that cop was left inside the interrogation room with the Joker alone...I was like WTF? That makes no sense. Not to mention the Joker's plan is literally super human...because he anticipates everything. Even the ending didn't make too much sense. Batman takes the blame..what? They are already lying and covering up a bunch of crap, blame it all on the Joker, it's not like anyone was going to questioned it Nah...I liked the film, but it didn't take me a while to notice the flaws. Anyway, it's too bad that you can't enjoy the final film. Maybe one day you will.

TDKR was already not feeling right before walking in.

Well, if you already didn't like it before watching it, then the film never had a chance with you, so that wasn't the film's fault. Ironically, that's how I feel about BVS, so maybe I'll hate it. That last trailer ruined the hype for me.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Zack Snyder: "If You're A Comic Book Fan, You Know I Didn't Change Superman" | Comicbook.com

“People are always like, ‘You changed Superman’,” Snyder told the Hall of Justice podcast. “If you’re a comic book fan, you know that I didn’t change Superman. If you know the true canon, you know that I didn’t change Superman. If you’re a fan of the old movies, yeah I changed him a bit. That's the difference. I'm a bit of a comic book fan and I always default to the true canon. Not the cinematic canon that sort of, that in my opinion, plays fast and loose with the rules. And so, I feel like I tried to create a Superman that would set a tone for the world.”

Depends on the canon...I guess.

 

[kryptonianmutie]

I used to hate rises
But then I learned to love it.

Now I watch it with great pleasure

I need to learn from you because I haven't gotten there yet.

 

[Victοr]

I used to hate rises
But then I learned to love it.

Now I watch it with great pleasure

"Sideshow Freaks: Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Dark Knight Rises"

 

[greygoose]

All this talk of TDK and TDKR and still BB get's left out in discussion. Overall BB is in my opinion the best in the trilogy.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

I don't know if canon means much when it comes to comics anymore. That's why I realized it was kind of silly to be debating Punisher and Batman's philosophies because it depends on the creative team and specific issues since the creators' mindsets change over time (like Frank Miller).

97% would be impossible in that short amount of time.The fact is, there was no specific number, and clearly there were enough in the city getting hunted like dogs. I know you don't like the film because you've been brainwashed into hating it, but making up reasons to dislike it makes no sense either.

You want to talk about Nolan loosing his passion? Well, let's look at Batman Begins, one of your favorites. The entire plot makes no sense...the villain spent months poisoning the water, but no one got sick because the only way the chemical affects people is by inhaling the toxic, which is why they needed the microwave machine to vaporize the water.

Apparently no one in Gotham boils water or takes a hot shower...even the guy selling the hot dogs to the corrupt cop was boiling water, yet no one in the city was going crazy...when there should have been millions going crazy....that's plain DUMB. Bad writing...but hey, that film gets a pass because it's only cool to dislike Rises because it's not flawless...unlike Begins...oh wait.

Oh and the ending, makes no sense either. Batman jumps into the train to fight Ra's ...why? Batman had just sent Gordon to destroy one of the monorail supports so that the train couldn't reach Wayne Tower. Ra's didn't know.. so why would Batman even need to get on the train? In fact, why didn't Ra's just start at Wayne Tower to begin with? He said they had "infiltrated every level of Gotham's infrastructure," so surely they would've had access to Wayne Tower....but hey, that's Nolan's perfect masterpiece for ya.

I really appreciate this post. I love how you always break down these films because it sucks away any pretentiousness. Some films have flaws that bug me more than others, but it's completely inconsistent on my part. That's why I just try to focus on the things I enjoy the most more than what's "objectively good" or whatever. I'm not educated enough in cinematography to do that, and even if I was, who cares? The amount of skill it takes me to watch a film can be attained by a rock, so I think it's best to focus on what I can take away from it.

That's why I'll now say that Return of the Jedi is my favorite Star Wars movie because I liked the developments for Vader despite not liking over half of the film. Maybe it's not the best, but it's the only Star Wars movie I'd watch again because it's where all my passion for Vader stems from. I also prefer Man of Steel over the other Superman movies movies because I find the versions to be much more unlikable characters. Superman II is what made me dislike Superman growing up. I at least liked what they were trying to say in Man of Steel.

Please don't do the breakdown for The Godfather though. I want to pretend it's a perfect film besides outside the obvious fake beatings.

 

[RIDDICK]

Zack Snyder: "If You're A Comic Book Fan, You Know I Didn't Change Superman" | Comicbook.com

It's one of THOSE silly arguments.
"If you love movies you'll like this one."

 

[Khev]

Sure, looking back on TDK, the flaws can be found.

But that's looking back at it because in the theater it certainly felt perfect all thanks to that incredible interrogation and strong powerful ending.

TDKR was already not feeling right before walking in.

Then I watched and cringed.

TDK's sins are forgiven because the story and characters are sound. Same with BB. Having Bruce quit 8 years at the beginning of TDKR and then quit *again* permanently was too much. If the story picked up with us learning that he'd been eluding cops but still kicking *** against criminals for 8 years and then he went out in a blaze glory at the end people wouldn't be nitpicking things like cops in the sewers. It'd just be remembered as an awesome movie and a great trilogy. But when you lose so many people on account of such basic actions of the main hero then everything else comes to light as well.