Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[IrishJedi]

Is Snyder also staying? Please say yes!

Unless something crazy and drastic and unforeseen happens between now and then, yes. He's over there (London) right now.

 

[Victοr]

I too still like Bale over Affleck. I think Affleck has a real shot at overtaking Bale though if given a solo movie or two.

One thing I haven't seen yet is complaints over

Spoiler

the lack of Batman's involvement in the Doomsday fight. Really he just grappled away from him and then stands back while Wonder Woman/Superman fights him. Then shoots DD and that is that. DC basically established Batman as the most powerful superhero in the universe after defeating Superman. I think he should have played a bigger role in the DD fight somehow. Whether that be with the Armored Suit or just grappling onto Doomsday and dealing damage. I still liked the fight, but would be nice to see if Batman had a bigger role in the final fight on the director's cut.

Eh, Superman had an exploitable weakness. If Diana had a problem containing Doomsday, I don't see what Batman could do.

 

[crows]

I want Superman to return with a mullet.

O man I hope they give him the long hair. Think of all the backlash.

he would totally pull it off

someone please photoshop this head onto superman

 

[IrishJedi]

The warehouse fight alone puts Affleck over Bale (and every other live action Batman to date). He can fight with more than his elbows. Plus, he doesn't have the laughable Batvoice.

Affleck > Bale for me. Already.

 

[karamazov80]

Gadot didn't do anything other than stand, look curious, stare at a laptop and cross her wrist.

That smile she gave Doomsdaynation was dumb.

Yeah, I thought she was fine, but not all that great. For now, I'm thinking she'll do best when situated firmly in the "less is more" department. Stand there, don't say much, give a sexy, vacuous kind of look, and you can't go too wrong.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Yes, this Batman is definitely my favorite. He's not a definitive Batman, cause he's a little more unhinged, but I can definitely see Batfleck being the definitive Batman in earlier years, before he went full Miller. Maybe his solo movie can deliver that, but hands down best Batman as it is.

I doesn't top Bale for me, but I thought he was great. I definitely think after a Solo Batman flick That he directs, he'll have a chance to really showcase himself as batman.


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Personally, I think I've seen so many different versions of the characters, that I can't pick one as the best or the definitive version. I still like Keaton's personality and costume. I liked Kilmer and Adam West's silver age version. Then there's Bale which was a bit more grounded, but is still the only cinematic Batman with an origin story and a full arc, that shows him from his childhood, to his training as a young man, his first year as Batman, as well as his showdown with his archenemy in TDK, and finally being pushed to the limit physically and emotionally in TDKR. Battfleck was good as a comic Batman, and I like him as much as I like the other actors, especially his Bruce Wayne. Also, what makes Battfleck unique from the previous versions, is that he lives in a world where he isn't the only superhero and villains as well as heroes can have powers, and that's going to open the door for situations and stories we've never seen with the Batman character. Having said that, I can't say I like him more than the previous versions.

 

[jye4ever]

I too still like Bale over Affleck. I think Affleck has a real shot at overtaking Bale though if given a solo movie or two.

One thing I haven't seen yet is complaints over

Spoiler

the lack of Batman's involvement in the Doomsday fight. Really he just grappled away from him and then stands back while Wonder Woman/Superman fights him. Then shoots DD and that is that. DC basically established Batman as the most powerful superhero in the universe after defeating Superman. I think he should have played a bigger role in the DD fight somehow. Whether that be with the Armored Suit or just grappling onto Doomsday and dealing damage. I still liked the fight, but would be nice to see if Batman had a bigger role in the final fight on the director's cut.

I agree.

Some say they liked seeing Batman being put in his place for once against cosmic beings or that he was being tactical pulling back.

I think he was a half measure, I think he was a man who couldn't finish the job, I think he was a coward!

 

[chewblacca]

I too still like Bale over Affleck. I think Affleck has a real shot at overtaking Bale though if given a solo movie or two.

One thing I haven't seen yet is complaints over

Spoiler

the lack of Batman's involvement in the Doomsday fight. Really he just grappled away from him and then stands back while Wonder Woman/Superman fights him. Then shoots DD and that is that. DC basically established Batman as the most powerful superhero in the universe after defeating Superman. I think he should have played a bigger role in the DD fight somehow. Whether that be with the Armored Suit or just grappling onto Doomsday and dealing damage. I still liked the fight, but would be nice to see if Batman had a bigger role in the final fight on the director's cut.

That's why Batman should have gone after the spear instead of Lois. He was useless against Doomsday.

 

[Ropen]

The warehouse fight alone puts Affleck over Bale (and every other live action Batman to date). Plus, he doesn't have the dumb voice.

Affleck > Bale. Already.

Is it bad to say I'm in love with the voice? Finally someone doesn't have to talk all low or grunting styled that makes it sound all fake, in all reality more than anything the way he groans as he fights puts off a batman that's an ultimate version of anything we have seen on the screen and I love it.

 

[meanstreak]

The warehouse fight alone puts Affleck over Bale (and every other live action Batman to date). He can fight with more than his elbows. Plus, he doesn't have the laughable Batvoice.

Affleck > Bale for me. Already.

The warehouse scene was amazing. I'm excited to see how big of a role he plays in Suicide Squad. I don't want to wait until JL to see him again.

 

[WWEJedi]

Wonder how Snyder's mindset is? I mean... that must kind of stink that the movie you just got done with is getting **** on and then you have to basically go and make the follow up not even a month later. Hopefully it doesn't effect his decisions during JL. I just hope Snyder see's the complaints and focuses on BvS's weaknesses, learn from them, and apply some of the constructive criticism to Justice League.

 

[GasparZizou]

Unless something crazy and drastic and unforeseen happens between now and then, yes. He's over there (London) right now.

Seems to be doing very well at the BO, I hope he stays.

I too still like Bale over Affleck. I think Affleck has a real shot at overtaking Bale though if given a solo movie or two.

One thing I haven't seen yet is complaints over

Spoiler

the lack of Batman's involvement in the Doomsday fight. Really he just grappled away from him and then stands back while Wonder Woman/Superman fights him. Then shoots DD and that is that. DC basically established Batman as the most powerful superhero in the universe after defeating Superman. I think he should have played a bigger role in the DD fight somehow. Whether that be with the Armored Suit or just grappling onto Doomsday and dealing damage. I still liked the fight, but would be nice to see if Batman had a bigger role in the final fight on the director's cut.

Nobody should be surprised Batman was out of his league, and that's how it should be, Batman should provide brains, strategy, technology and intelligence to the JL, not muscle.

Batman as usual was able to "handle" Supes for a couple of minutes with Supes holding back, kryptonite, prep time, etc etc. There was none of that for Doomsday, he wasn't ready, so I thought having Bats just run around avoiding damage was very good decision.

NOW he can prepare for stuff like that and be more helpful in future threats.

 

[GasparZizou]

That's why Batman should have gone after the spear instead of Lois. He was useless against Doomsday.

I believe that was the idea, if he wasn't running away from blasts, chunks of debris and DD trying to squash him

 

[meanstreak]

Nobody should be surprised Batman was out of his league, and that's how it should be, Batman should provide brains, strategy, technology and intelligence to the JL, not muscle.

Batman as usual was able to "handle" Supes for a couple of minutes with Supes holding back, kryptonite, prep time, etc etc. There was none of that for Doomsday, he wasn't ready, so I thought having Bats just run around avoiding damage was very good decision.

NOW he can prepare for stuff like that and be more helpful in future threats.

I agree. Batman made it clear he was human and not a god. He knew he was in over his head and I liked him trying to avoid being killed for most of his fight with Doomsday.

 

[GasparZizou]

Wonder how Snyder's mindset is? I mean... that must kind of stink that the movie you just got done with is getting **** on and then you have to basically go and make the follow up not even a month later. Hopefully it doesn't effect his decisions during JL. I just hope Snyder see's the complaints and focuses on BvS's weaknesses, learn from them, and apply some of the constructive criticism to Justice League.

This. I hope Cavill is lurking here and sees the love this movie is getting, and most importantly, it's not blind love, we're addressing the flaws here too.

 

[WWEJedi]

I think he was a half measure, I think he was a man who couldn't finish the job, I think he was a coward!

Daredevil reference? If so.. I like it!

That's why Batman should have gone after the spear instead of Lois. He was useless against Doomsday.

Yeah, I was thinking that maybe it should have been Batman

Spoiler

who speared Doomsday while Superman was getting stabbed, then Superman uses that last bit of strength to push the spear completely through Doomsday.

 

[IrishJedi]

President Patrick Wilson was kind of an ******* for nuking Supes.

 

[Victοr]

I believe that was the idea, if he wasn't running away from blasts, chunks of debris and DD trying to squash him

Bu-but h-he's Ba-Batman... He could've just Bat-Kicked him...

PS: Still can't get over that scene in Arkham Knight where in seconds he dispatches a giant plant and, breaks into the building, and appears before Ivy. I mean, it's cool and all but damn, that's more unrealistic than Boom Tubes...

 

[GasparZizou]

Bu-but h-he's Ba-Batman.

PS: Still can't get over that scene in Arkham Knight where in seconds he dispatches a giant plant and, breaks into the building, and appears before Ivy. I mean, it's cool and all but damn, that's more unrealistic than Boom Tubes...

Yeah that bit was pretty funny.

Although, in the movie, he was the one who attracted DD to the abandoned port near the spear, that **** took huge cojones.

 

[IrishJedi]

This. I hope Cavill is lurking here and sees the love this movie is getting, and most importantly, it's not blind love, we're addressing the flaws here too.

I can tell you that JUSTICE LEAGUE was already being planned to be lighter than this well before the critical outcry over the "darkness" of this film. Don't expect them to go full Marvel, but you'll still continue to see a gradual move toward more fantastical and comic bookish tones and ideas.