Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[IrishJedi]

Mini-review while I wait for my Panera Bread To Go order:

I agree with the fans at the premiere. Only things I didn't like were the "don't respond to the Batsignal" exchange and I thought Batman should have gone full Inglorious Basterds on Luthor's forehead at the end.

Yet again, we agree!

Well, that and I would have cut out a couple of the flashbacks and move one or two scenes around slightly.

 

[Mr. Green]

It does appear this thread has gone full Bizzarro.

See what you did there.

the other thing I didnt like that made no sense.
Why didn't Luthor just let Batman have the Kryptonite? why not just deliver it to him? of when Lex realized batman was after it why not just tell the guys to let him have it?
why go through the trouble of telling his men to shoot rockets at batman when Lex NEEDED Batman alive to fight superman? what if one of those rockets did hit batman and he got hurt?
You could say that because Lex needed it, but then if Batman didn't steal it, how was Batman supposed to kill Superman? was Lex going to give it to Batman anyways? and if he was then why hide it. why not just contact Batman and tell him he wants to work with him or something?

And like I said before, why was Lex creating Doomsday before knowing if Batman won? what if he DID win? then you would have created a Doomsday for no reason at all.
Why was Lex basically worshiping Zod in the pod? why was he talking to the zod corpse like if he respected and cared for Zod? doesn't he hate powerful aliens?
and why was he happy to see Doomsday? Doomsday is just another powerful alien. so Lex hates SUperman but loves zod and then loves Doosmday? wtf.... how was he supposed to stop doomdsay after he killed superman? Lex didn't have any weapons.

answers please

You assume way too much. Not all things go as planned. Worshipping Zod? Doomsday is his last resort/plan.

 

[GasparZizou]

the other thing I didnt like that made no sense.
Why didn't Luthor just let Batman have the Kryptonite? why not just deliver it to him? of when Lex realized batman was after it why not just tell the guys to let him have it?
why go through the trouble of telling his men to shoot rockets at batman when Lex NEEDED Batman alive to fight superman? what if one of those rockets did hit batman and he got hurt?
You could say that because Lex needed it, but then if Batman didn't steal it, how was Batman supposed to kill Superman? was Lex going to give it to Batman anyways? and if he was then why hide it. why not just contact Batman and tell him he wants to work with him or something?
And like I said before, why was Lex creating Doomsday before knowing if Batman won? what if he DID win? then you would have created a Doomsday for no reason at all.
Why was Lex basically worshiping Zod in the pod? why was he talking to the zod corpse like if he respected and cared for Zod? doesn't he hate powerful aliens?
and why was he happy to see Doomsday? Doomsday is just another powerful alien. so Lex hates SUperman but loves zod and then loves Doosmday? wtf.... how was he supposed to stop doomdsay after he killed superman? Lex didn't have any weapons.

answers please

• Because he had no intention of giving Batman a fair shot, he just wanted Superman to kill Batman, he didn't need Batman to have kryptonite.
• Then no need to reanimate Derpsday.
• He's not reverencing him, he's being condescending, to a "god"'s corpse, perfectly in character.
• He wasn't "happy" he's being his usual twitchy self, I don't think he cared about stopping Derpsday at that point, at that point he was gone, bat**** crazy.

I say, give the movie another shot

 

[crows]

• Because he had no intention of giving Batman a fair shot, he just wanted Superman to kill Batman, he didn't need Batman to have kryptonite.
• Then no need to reanimate Derpsday.
• He's not reverencing him, he's being condescending, to a "god"'s corpse, perfectly in character.
• He wasn't "happy" he's being his usual twitchy self, I don't think he cared about stopping Derpsday at that point, at that point he was gone, bat**** crazy.

I say, give the movie another shot

why does he need batman dead?

 

[GasparZizou]

why does he need batman dead?

I already said it not so much that he needs Batman dead, it's that he needs Supes to kill him.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

the other thing I didnt like that made no sense.
Why didn't Luthor just let Batman have the Kryptonite? why not just deliver it to him? of when Lex realized batman was after it why not just tell the guys to let him have it?

He didn't know Batman wanted the Kryptonite until after he got the Kryptonite...right?

why go through the trouble of telling his men to shoot rockets at batman when Lex NEEDED Batman alive to fight superman? what if one of those rockets did hit batman and he got hurt?

I missed the part of he telling the guys to kill Batman?

And like I said before, why was Lex creating Doomsday before knowing if Batman won? what if he DID win? then you would have created a Doomsday for no reason at all.

Well, it took a while for DD to grow, so he couldn't wait to start making DD after finding out that Batman failed.

Why was Lex basically worshiping Zod in the pod? why was he talking to the zod corpse like if he respected and cared for Zod? doesn't he hate powerful aliens?

He's crazy Maybe it has something to do with his father? I don't know why he was crying.

and why was he happy to see Doomsday? Doomsday is just another powerful alien. so Lex hates SUperman but loves zod and then loves Doosmday? wtf.... how was he supposed to stop doomdsay after he killed superman? Lex didn't have any weapons.

My guess, he was "happy" because it was his creation using his blood...perhaps he thought that he could control DD since it was made with LEX's DNA.

 

[jrice73]

So does anyone besides me wish that Snyder and WB would put the three hour, R-rated cut in theatres this summer before Suicide Squad begins its run so we could see this new cut on IMAX screens? I don't know what the hell their schedule is late July, early August, but I think WB would clean up at the boxoffice for a week or two if they put this cut out. I would give my right arm to see that R-rated cut on an IMAX screen. Just my two cents.

 

[GasparZizou]

So does anyone besides me wish that Snyder and WB would put the three hour, R-rated cut in theatres this summer before Suicide Squad begins its run so we could see this new cut on IMAX screens? I don't know what the hell their schedule is late July, early August, but I think WB would clean up at the boxoffice for a week or two if they put this cut out. I would give my right arm to see that R-rated cut on an IMAX screen. Just my two cents.

I hadn't thought about this, but DO want.

 

[RIDDICK]

Still wish this happened instead of the stupid "Rises":

 

[GasparZizou]

I hadn't thought about that either it actually fits.

Now that Hopeman has his Batman, feels like Routh should be Bale's Batman Supes.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I hadn't thought about that either it actually fits.

Now that Hopeman has his Batman, feels like Routh should be Bale's Batman Supes.

Keep that fake blue eye man child with his ***** costume and boring film away from Bale...NO

 

[RIDDICK]

I hadn't thought about that either lol
Now that Hopeman has his Batman, feels like Routh should be Bale's Batman Supes.

I feel old... Seein' the SR on a big screen...
Havin' joygasm after findin' this gif:

Those were the days.

 

[crows]

I feel old... Seein' the SR on a big screen...
Havin' joygasm after findin' this gif:

Those were the days.

that looks like fun

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

that looks like fun

Unlike BVS...goahead, say it!

 

[crows]

man, i wasnt looking forward civil war but now i cant wait. i really cant wait to see that. even if it is just to compare
(spidey will be nice)

 

[RIDDICK]

 

[spindrift]

Snyder SHOULD be laughing at the critics- I join him

 

[jye4ever]

Impressive that no matter how hard attempts are made to discredit character motivations the movie is still able to provide enough material to formulate a proper defense against most of those attempts.

That tells me that under the surface this imperfect movie has potential for a narrative course correction.

The extended is either going to sink this movie or bring it from a 29% RT to a 90% RT as critics rush to bestow it with their seal of approval.

I love the critics who destroyed The Thing in 1982 coming around 20 years later to proclaim it a masterpiece.

I was ready to point my Marvel finger at arrogant WB/DC to ask them how their adult serious drama is working out for them, but not just yet, right now i'm enjoying BvS theatrical!

 

[jye4ever]

BvS ruled the box office this weekend, both in international and domestic markets, bringing home an estimated $424.1 million worldwide. The record-breaking performance saw the film set a new domestic March opening weekend record and it also serves as the largest domestic opening for Warner Bros. ever. And while the clash of superhero titans was doing it's thing, Universal's counter-programming release in My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2 also performed well as did Roadside's Hello, My Name is Doris and Bleecker Street's Eye in the Sky.



With an estimated $170.1 million, Batman v Superman topped the March opening weekend record previously held by The Hunger Games at $152.5 million. Should estimates hold, and WB seems to be confident they will, this also tops the $169.1 million Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 opened with in 2011, making it the largest domestic opening for the studio. This is also the largest Easter opening, topping the $147.1 million brought in by Furious 7 last year as well as the largest opening for a film based on a DC Comics property, a record previously held by The Dark Knight Rises at $160.8 million. But this weekend's records are one thing, how the film will hold up is another.



Heading into the weekend the swath of negative critical reviews were a major focus as the film now sits at a 29% rating on RottenTomatoes and no film with a rating lower than 63% on the site had ever opened over $150 million. Clearly Batman v Superman bucked that trend as it is now one of only five live action films to have ever grossed over $100 million on opening weekend with a RottenTomatoes rating lower than 30%. So does this say something about critics, about films with baked in audiences... or both?



From an audience perspective, Batman v Superman received a so-so "B" CinemaScore with a "B-" coming from males, which made up 62% of the audience, and "B" from females. Audience members under the age of 18, however, scored it an "A-", which brings our attention to next weekend. Recent films such as Avengers: Age of Ultron and Batman v Superman predecessor Man of Steel saw 59.4% and 64.6% second weekend drops respectively. It's also worth noting a large drop should be expected no matter what, if only because $27.7 million of Batman v Superman's opening came from Thursday previews.



From a historical perspective, a second weekend drop around 62% is a safe bet at this time, and anything better than 60% would show the film is holding well in the face of odds that would otherwise suggest it was in trouble over the long run. Speculation aside, it won't be until we see how far it drops that we can get a good grasp on just how big it may go, but its success doesn't rely wholly on its domestic prospects as it also got off to a very strong start overseas.



The film brought in an estimated $254 million internationally this weekend, giving it the fifth largest international opening weekend of all-time. The global opening of $424.1 million is the fourth largest of all-time. The breakdown by territory shows China leading the pack, delivering an estimated $57.3 million in its first three days, the largest opening ever for WB in China. Results from other territories include the UK ($21.9m), Mexico ($18.6m), Brazil ($12.2m), Korea ($10.5m), Australia ($10.0m), Russia ($8.5m), France ($8.4m), Germany ($8.2m), Spain ($6.3m), Italy ($5.8m) and Japan ($4.4m).



As will be the case domestically, how well the film performs next weekend in all these territories will be of vital importance when it comes to determining just how big a hit this will end up being. At this point, it looks as if Batman v Superman will become the 25th film to cross $1+ billion worldwide as The Hunger Games: Catching Fire is the only film to open with over $158 million domestically and not cross the $1 billion mark worldwide.

 

[chewblacca]

The action in the movie is great. The story needs some work though. I still think it was a bad idea to kill Superman. After the killing of Zod in Man of Steel did we really have to go out with another death?