Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[Khev]

That is an amazing observation. The more I read, the more I want to see this a second time. Plus, it fits right in with the fact that Luthor blew up Wally and the Senate entirely to further motivate Bruce.

Definitely. And like jye4ever said earlier, man Holly looking at the freaking pig piss. To know you're dead for several paralyzing seconds when Superman himself is just standing right in front of you. That's pretty freaking unsettling.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He obviously wanted Bruce to feel like it was his own idea to get the kryptonite. Pretty simple. You want someone to have confidence in doing what you want them to do, well make them think they volunteered to do it. A pretty common practice for people with manipulative personalities.

It's an interesting theory We'll see if the director's cut includes more scenes involving Lex's plan.

 

[Khev]

It's an interesting theory We'll see if the director's cut includes more scenes involving Lex's plan.

Hmm, you're actually considering an opposing theory with an open mind? Something's not right here. *Khev looks around to see if there's a jar of piss nearby...*

 

[kryptonianmutie]

More like lukewarm malt liquor, IMO. Unappealing to many, but. . .

I miss those beer commercials. Now they all have to be a party or sentimental.

 

[Gully Foyle]

BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE Stars Thank Fans For Their Support
You're welcome guys.

Yes, please think of those poor multi-millionaires won't you?
They really have to struggle . . .

The world sucks. We should be cynics. And it's because of contrarian, hateful little *******s like him.

Sheesh . . physician heal thyself!

This movie is like fine wine. You got to let it wash in your mouth first and then taste it afterward.

Keep enjoying Granny's Peach Tea. Let it wash in your mouth!

He's as dark as the times we live in, his mother even tells him we're not worth saving as a species, just ignore us and move along.

Our heroes are merely mirrors of ourselves. The golden ideal versus a charred reality.

We doubt our own self-worth, and therefore project that doubt onto our mythical heroes.

It's old stuff . . . been kicking around over 4,000 years.



When is Snyder directing Gilgamesh? Everybody dies in that one . . . total Death!
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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Hmm, you're actually considering an opposing theory with an open mind? Something's not right here. *Khev looks around to see if there's a jar of piss nearby...*

I want to believe I still think it's a stretch, but there's a...one percent chance.. that you're onto something, and until I see the director's cut with that extra 30 minutes, I don't want to completely disregard any theories that might be right.

 

[karamazov80]

When is Snyder directing Gilgamesh? Everybody dies in that one . . . total Death!
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And so it goes. Tell 'em, Riddler.



Unfortunately, I think we know good and well where this one's going.

 

[Khev]

Oh one other thing that was cool was that when Bats was lowering Superman's body Wonder Woman and Lois were standing next to each other and WW was like a full head taller than Lois. Not sure of the exact height difference between Gadot and Adams or if it was just the angle of the dirt they were standing on but it was cool to see Diana appear as a giant among women.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Yeah, Gadot is very tall in real life, add the WW boots and she's easily 6'1'

 

[Khev]

Nice.

 

[Gully Foyle]

And so it goes.

Day-um if kara doesn't post the most succinct posts and the best music.

To all those who rejoice that Snyder is now the Big Chief of the DCCU . . . be careful what you wish for.





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[vaderbreath]

Just saw the movie and thoroughly loved it. This was my favorite Batman by far (couldn't stand Bale's version). My boys loved it and my wife just likes looking at Henry Cavill. I went in wanting to be entertained and I very much was. Sorry if my opinion is in the minority, but I can't wait to see it again

 

[Ropen]

Must there be a Superman?


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[Sweet Rabbit]

Must there be a Superman?

What kind of question is that?

 

[greygoose]

Just saw the movie and thoroughly loved it. This was my favorite Batman by far (couldn't stand Bale's version). My boys loved it and my wife just likes looking at Henry Cavill. I went in wanting to be entertained and I very much was. Sorry if my opinion is in the minority, but I can't wait to see it again

It appears the 'minority' might not be such a minority. Alot of people I've spoke to and people on here like this movie and the box office numbers are healthy too.

 

[LIBBY1957DOG]

anyone get the art book ,mine just arrived from amazon uk ,just over £20 delivered ,
looks good ,we may be getting more lois investigative reporter and lois and clark home life ,

stumpy's apartment ?

batman designs

the bat cowl in the art looks a little like the one in the zack london work shop picture other than the exposed nose

manbat

tried to rotate the pictures but pbuckets playing up

 

[jye4ever]

Saw it again tonight, again in 2D IMAX. I actually found myself walking in wondering if I'd like it as much or if after seeing it once its length would start to show, the narrative would fall apart, etc.

I came away more confident than ever that it's a really good movie. To some of you I'm part of the "unwashed masses" who are giving money to this crappy movie and well, to me you're the unwashed masses that aren't appreciating a good flick. I just disagree with the notion that it was bad, poorly edited, characters weren't handled well and so on.

I was actually surprised how into the first 2/3 of the movie I was all over again. The destruction of Metropolis, Wayne funeral, Jeepers Creepers Batman intro, Bruce and Alfred scenes, desert scene, naked Amy Adams, Daily Planet scenes, Nightmare sequence, Man-Bat vision, Luthor's party, it was just one engaging moment to the next. And I thought the ending still played well, was still exciting, etc.

Hard to fault a movie that I enjoy for two and a half hours.

A number of things I picked up this time around:

1. Bruce's story begins and ends at funerals carpeted by maple leaves. The first funeral he falls into the bat cave and becomes this one man instrument of fear, punishment, and vengeance. Second funeral he becomes a team player with toned down brutality (which is how I'm taking the lack of branding on Lex.)

2. Thomas Wayne was just another well meaning dad who made a tragic, lethal mistake. He clearly provokes the guy by doing a little lunge at him, gets shot, then the guy accidentally gets his gun caught in Martha's necklace and kills her too. I think that makes the main theme of possibly the entire movie flawed people learning ideals from other flawed people (Pa, Thomas, and to an extent Lex Sr.) and doing their best to live out those ideals in the way that makes the most sense to them. Clark learned to always try and save his family first, because they gave him the necessary strength to save everyone else, strength even to sacrifice his own life if necessary. Bruce learned from his dad that you either pull up weeds or can be stifled by them in any given moment, Lex learned that if there are powerful beings in the world (be they God or his father) then they must inherently be evil and put down.

All learned "lessons" as they saw them and lived by those lessons in different ways. Clark had a good lesson buried in his dad's idiocy, he just had to sift it out to understand it better. In the meantime he was filled with ever increasing doubt. Bruce had a bad lesson "you'll die in a gutter for no reason, might as well make life hell for the criminals while you can," but was able to change his thinking and chart a better course for himself and the safety of others. Lex didn't learn anything and just got crazier. Very interesting to see how the three responded to their trials in such different ways.

3. Right before Superman's hearing Lex tells Holly Hunter "well you're sure going to be in the hot seat in there." Ha. He also said goodbye to his Asian aide, "Mercy." Interesting name. He did away with mercy.

4. When Clark is trying to convince Perry that they should shine a light on the Bat and help the poor of Gotham and Perry says no Clark replies, "But that's not what the Planet was founded on," or something to that effect. Planet. He obviously means Daily Planet but the sentence creates an interesting play on words if you want to say he's a Messiah talking about how God originally created the "planet" Earth and then said "It is good" before evil mucked it up. "This isn't what the planet was founded on." Jesus obviously came to create a path of redemption so that the planet could go back to what it was founded on. Pretty cool. Neat line of dialogue.

5. I felt bad for Clark when Bruce said, "bad history with freaks dressed like clowns." You could tell that it really got to him. His outfit is one of his only links to his homeworld and especially his family. As much as we make fun of it the "hope" thing is really important to him. Later in the movie when Lois puts her hand on his emblem and says, "this means hope," and he says, "it did on my world but my world doesn't exist," you know deep down he's thinking, "this means nothing to anyone here, it's a freaking clown suit." That was pretty harsh.

6. I saw the girl in Bruce's bed! Freaking right there after he wakes up from the Man-Bat dream.

7. That was The Flash that appears to him in all the electricity? The Flash from the future!?? Okay I had *no* idea who that was or what was going on the first time around. Apparently I was just six years old watching Luke in the Dagobah cave again. So Flash is telling him about how important Lois is, "am I too soon, has it happened yet?" whatever he was yammering about was clearly some future event that he was trying to go back in time to warn him about, then he says, "Find us..." Pretty freaking DOFP there but what are ya gonna do. So this time I "got" why he told Diana that the other superheroes would agree to fight with them because of "a feeling" he had. He thought that Flash was a dream but somehow something more. Got it this time.

8. So fascinating that Lex LITERALLY was trying to just hand Bruce the kryptonite. Bruce was trying to make it all so hard for himself. Sneak into Lex's house. Nope, Lex invited him. Then Lex *invited* him to his laboratory where they "might see they have some like minded projects" or whatever and Bruce declined! Instead he chased Lex' men to that very same laboratory. It was interesting because when the men deliver the kryptonite Lex opens the box and stares at it, no smile. Then later when the kryptonite is stolen he smiles. The first time he was all "dammit, he didn't get it?" So crazy that Lex was just trying to offer it up to Bruce on a silver platter and he just wasn't taking the bait (which I don't blame him for, obviously.)

9. Batman's preference was definitely not to kill, even in quasi-real future visions. In the Apocalypse when he gets swarmed by soldiers he grabs an assault rifle but tries to fight off two guys at once with his free hand, when that is futile he raises the gun and mows them down. Another guy he punches and then throws to the ground but when the guy gets up and two of his buddies join him THEN Batman breaks his neck. Killing always or at the very least almost always seems to be his "Plan B."

10. The trailers SO screwed up Wonder Woman's entrance to the battle. Zack staged it perfectly! Batman crashes, then cut to Superman up in space, the sun shines on him and he heals, then back to Batman, DD blasts him and BOOM, a figure bathed in light streaks down and deflects it. Of course we would have all assumed it was Superman. But the smoke clears and (cue electric air guitar) Wonder Woman! Man, what was WB thinking on that one.

11. I was kind of relishing Batman kicking Superman's *** the first viewing but this time I had so much more empathy for Superman I just felt kind of bad.

12. I loved the "first generation of Wayne's traded fur and pelts, they were hunters," and then immediately cutting to armored Batman and his spear. Yes kids, the spear is awesome.

13. Awesome that they had a Rocky underground training montage that actually applied to his plan! Dragging the tire with the heavy chain, obviously he was gearing up for being able to drag Superman. Very cool!

Bow to khev I must.

He obviously wanted Bruce to feel like it was his own idea to get the kryptonite. Pretty simple. You want someone to have confidence in doing what you want them to do, well make them think they volunteered to do it. A pretty common practice for people with manipulative personalities.

YES YES THIS

Eisenberg Lex went from having some of the stupidest sounding lines in the trailers to being one of my favorite cbm villains.

YES YES THIS

Definitely. And like jye4ever said earlier, man Holly looking at the freaking pig piss. To know you're dead for several paralyzing seconds when Superman himself is just standing right in front of you. That's pretty freaking unsettling.

Like a spider on your steering wheel, you just know you're going to hit a tree any second!

 

[LexiKon318]

What kind of question is that?

"Must there be a Superman?" was asked during the movie and is also a title of a song from the soundtrack.


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[batfan08]

So, I'm confused. Was that the actual Man-Bat, like Kirk Langstrom Man-Bat, in Bruce's nightmare? I interpreted it, as just like the monster that was inside of him, almost.

 

[IrishJedi]

So, I'm confused. Was that the actual Man-Bat, like Kirk Langstrom Man-Bat, in Bruce's nightmare? I interpreted it, as just like the monster that was inside of him, almost.

It's left to interpret, but it is indeed Man-Bat.