Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

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I would say Batman V Superman is a big step up from Man of Steel, though most of the reason for that is the inclusion of Batman. It still suffers from the tonal issue which was my main complaint about MOS. It does go out of its way to compensate for complaints levied against MOS, but that is arguably to its detriment.

I enjoyed Iron Man 3 more than BVS, but in some ways they are on totally opposite ends of the spectrum. IM3 was a Shane Black joint. And he's known for fun/witty, unconventional movies that don't hold anything sacred. Snyder is on the other end of the spectrum in some ways. Treating a comic book character like he's Jesus Christ in this dour, straightforward action drama.

I'm not sure Azrael would really work since he was kind of the "too brutal" Batman which would be kind of hard to do at this point. I guess he could put criminals' heads on pikes or something. :lol
I was thinking about Azrael when watching the movie, actually. That this Bruce Wayne isn't too far removed from that character. So yeah, would be pointless to do that storyline.

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Good call.
 
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

I enjoyed BvS more than this SW flick....fact:lecture
 
The only thing in the Knightmare sequence that sets up the future movies are just Easter Eggs. The whole thing is meant to reflect Bruce's psyche and his fear of Superman.

That's certainly how I took it. It wasn't until here that I even learned that those flying things were minions of Darkseid.
 
Glad I'm not the only one who continues to love BVS with every viewing. [emoji106] I still read comics and haven't stopped in 25 years. The return to a Bill Finger inspired Batman with notes of Miller and Azzarello make me a very happy man-child. [emoji51]


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I am immensely fascinated with BvS.

I've read all the pacing and character motivation complaints yet nothing has diminished my excitement for this movie.

I'm easily shrugging off the public flogging it has received from the national critics circuit plus the appearance of financial weakness in the shadows of a very sucessfull Deadpool because Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman finally came together in a movie.

Before this movie if I wanted these characters together I had to watch a cartoon or read a comic book.

Sure, some could argue that the cartoons and comic books are vastly superior, that's great have at them, no one is taking those away from us.

But for me the extended cut dvd can't come out fast enough.

I was less forgiving with MOS but BvS has now given me the motivation to revisit MOS.

For me this movie was not garbage.

I have yet to watch a "perfect" Superhero movie anyways.

Sure some have come closer than others, but you can't be almost pregnant.

This movie has easily earned repeat viewing status from me.

If anything the more hate the more it feeds your love because your brain keeps telling you you are better than everyone else for liking it :lol
The angrier people get the stronger your brain's love for it becomes because it makes it tell you that "They are so wrong, soooo wrong :panic:" lol
 
I've read people posting how they took their five-to-ten-year-olds to see this movie and I'm always surprised.
I wouldn't take another person's young kid to see this much less my own.
Way too violent, confusing, and dull IMO.
But hey--kids play GTA at age six and learn to beat up hookers for money so what do I know? :wink1:

I wouldn't want to take other peoples kids to this movie, either. Not because of the movie, though.

Heh. I'm guessing you don't have any kids. Or, at least, a son. The idea of "shielding" boys from comic book violence is cute, but dumb. Boys are rough. Boys play violently. They have NERF wars -- which my three kids and their cousins did today at a birthday party. They were playing "zombie war" ... even the girls (there were many 'casualties', but no injuries). They slash at each other with toy lightsabers -- which I watched my 4yo and 8yo spend an hour or so doing this evening. They play Call of Duty 4 with friends. Shooting each other. Lobbing grenades. Laughing. Dying. Having a damn good time. It's mostly just high-tech versions of the same crap I did when I was a boy ... war games, cops & robbers, cowboys & Indians.

I won't let my young'uns watch gore. Blood and guts is too much (for now) ... which is why I don't let 'em watch The Walking Dead (try as he might). But, violence doesn't bother me a bit. It's right in his wheelhouse. Especially near-bloodless comic book violence. There wasn't a single fight scene or confrontation in BvS that I found even the least bit inappropriate for an elementary aged boy. Hell, I'd've taken my 4yo son if I though he could sit still for two-and-a-half hours. Both of my sons (including the 4yo) loved Jurassic Park 4, violence and all. Their current favorite movies are Star Wars -- wherein hands and heads get lopped off with some regularity, and a whole hell of a lot of people get shot, blown-up, run through, or just otherwise end-up dead.

Boys need to learn to direct their energy, not to stifle it. You won't raise a useful boy by pretending he's not interested in fight scenes. You'll do so by making sure he watches fight scenes where good stands-up to evil, where the good guy fights for something that's worth fighting for, etc. Y'know ... movies with heroes.

Honestly, the most objectionable scene in the movie was the Lois Lane bathtub scene. Not too many kids are going to screw-up their lives with a gunfight or brawl. Quite a few more will do so with ill-advised, too-young, unmarried sexual encounters. I wasn't too thrilled with having him watch a hero climb into a bathtub with a naked chick not-his-wife (he's young enough that he's still says 'ew' to such things). But, I'm plenty thrilled to have him watch a hero stand in the face of evil and fight back. To the death. There's plenty of good lessons to be taught in that.

You're plenty right about GTA, though. There is a difference between watching good fight evil, and watching/playing amoral mayhem. It's not the violence, it's the message. Also, the hookers ... Lois-in-the-bathtub, times 50.

As for it being "too boring" ... again, you must not have a son. He was on the edge of his seat. Still, quiet, & mezmerized for three consecutive hours -- with only one bathroom break, when he usually asks for three in a half-hour dinner. "Best movie ever!", to quote him. "Too confusing"? Possibly, in parts ... but I like to challenge the boy.

Maybe people are more sophisticated than you give them credit for, and can judge a piece on its creative merits, rather than the fact that it's merely new and shiny?

I doubt it. It's difficult to underestimate the sophistication of people who want to seem sophisticated. People like to seem more discerning than they actually are ... for the same reason people claim to like expensive wine, when most can't really taste the difference. They don't want to be thought unsophisticated, or, for geeks, lacking in geek discernment. If the exact same movie were critically acclaimed, it'd be more popular. Because people are sheep. Even allegedly 'sophisticated' ones.

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Really, you can take the paradeamons and the Omega symbol out of that sequence and it wouldn't change it at all.

Well doesn't that beg the question: why bother placing them there in the first place? :dunno


When I look at her, I wish I was Antman. I would shrink, then jump in there and die happy :lol

Or at least sweaty! :wink1:


Treating a comic book character like he's Jesus Christ in this dour, straightforward action drama.

A character who was created out of a Jewish immigrant culture, to boot. :cuckoo:


The return to a Bill Finger inspired Batman with notes of Miller and Azzarello make me a very happy man-child.

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Right on . . . and well they should. Opinions, arguments, and teasing aside--the fans are finally receiving a big-budget attempt at a live-action DCU.:yess:
And Affleck has shown he's got the chops to play the Bat.
His scenes with Irons & in costume were the definite highlights of BvS, for me.
Mileage may vary. :peace

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for anyone that likes those "everything wrong with" videos, he reviewed it, (he liked it)

 
You didn't like MOS. You didn't like BvS. You won't watch WW next year...

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