Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[olbertfrog]

Finally had the time to see the movie a second time.
Its really something unique, flawed but unique.
The montage of Supes saving peoples while intelectuals talk about him is gripping.
The movie has some really awesome scenes, Luthor vs Supes is devilishly cruel, funny and scary.
The opening credit. Bruce monologue, pure bliss.
To me the big mistake tho, especially after seeing civil war, is that the subject of the movie changes after the bat Supes fight.
Doomsday climax is not interresting.
Its too much too fast.
Civil war was nice, entertaining, still spends 1h30 debating questions that were adressed in a more balsy way in Mos and BVS, but yeah its funny, sexy, pop (both suffer from the sale forced fight between heroes).
Far from the BVS mood, but at least civil war stays on its path until the very end.
Il like that BVS is generous but i think they should have stick with bat vs Sup only and keep doomsdays out of it.
I really cant wait to see What the extended Will be like.
Just like Mos, lots of flaws but the heart of it is really my kind of movie.

 

[daikkenaurora]

This has likely already been mentioned, but another thing working against BvS is the title. It's a hard sell with the mainstream, who don't understand why Bats and Supes would be fighting.

Batman vs Superman as a title is a hard sell? No way. Who wouldnt want to see a movie with Superman and Batman fighting?

 

[EVILFACE]

Well, $862,932,593 worth of people wanted to see Batman knock around Superman.

 

[daikkenaurora]

Well, $862,932,593 worth of people wanted to see Batman knock around Superman.

And I think the movie made $160+ million in the opening weekend because of it. The title alone would draw people in.

 

[Starscream Soundwave]

This has likely already been mentioned, but another thing working against BvS is the title. It's a hard sell with the mainstream, who don't understand why Bats and Supes would be fighting.

 

[LIBBY1957DOG]

just saw this posted on the shh boards ,irish or anyone one know if this is true or not ,

 

[Prime Clone]

Well, $862,932,593 worth of people wanted to see Batman knock around Superman.

Sorry, weren't the numbers supposed to be disappointing?

 

[GeneralZodLives]

For a movie that showed the Trinity on screen for the first time those numbers are bad, IMO. The poor story, poor characterizations, and running time stopped a lot of people from seeing this more than once.

 

[daikkenaurora]

For a movie that showed the Trinity on screen for the first time those numbers are bad, IMO. The poor story, poor characterizations, and running time stopped a lot of people from seeing this more than once.

Totally agreed. This movie should have done much better.

 

[Starscream Soundwave]

For a movie that showed the Trinity on screen for the first time those numbers are bad, IMO. The poor story, poor characterizations, and running time stopped a lot of people from seeing this more than once.

Great point. If I had liked it, I definitely would have seen it twice or maybe even three times. There's probably a lot of people thinking the same.

 

[karamazov80]

Superman IV makes Superman III look like a masterpiece of film.

just saw this posted on the shh boards ,irish or anyone one know if this is true or not ,

All the milliners of the world will certainly be silenced by the loud crunch of doritos on this day.

 

[kryptonianmutie]

Superman IV makes Superman III look like a masterpiece of film.

Yeah I'll catch Superman III every blue moon on TV and watch it usually up until he kills his evil side.

I avoid Superman IV like it's the plague.

 

[EVILFACE]

Superman III isn't that bad, if you can get past the cornball camp. I still remember how popular Richard Pryor was at that time.

 

[LOTRfan85]

Totally agreed. This movie should have done much better.

Directors have shown they can make good to great comic book movies, Snyder said he made this film for the fans, it is what it is, the latter part is right, still its a turd. Its amazing guys like Nolan still keep this guy relevant. When ever you see Snyder talk in how some of his movies get made, you can tell he is more limited has a director than Adam Wests utility belt

 

[spindrift]

Finally had the time to see the movie a second time.
Its really something unique, flawed but unique.
The montage of Supes saving peoples while intelectuals talk about him is gripping.
The movie has some really awesome scenes, Luthor vs Supes is devilishly cruel, funny and scary.
The opening credit. Bruce monologue, pure bliss.
To me the big mistake tho, especially after seeing civil war, is that the subject of the movie changes after the bat Supes fight.
Doomsday climax is not interresting.
Its too much too fast.
Civil war was nice, entertaining, still spends 1h30 debating questions that were adressed in a more balsy way in Mos and BVS, but yeah its funny, sexy, pop (both suffer from the sale forced fight between heroes).
Far from the BVS mood, but at least civil war stays on its path until the very end.
Il like that BVS is generous but i think they should have stick with bat vs Sup only and keep doomsdays out of it.
I really cant wait to see What the extended Will be like.
Just like Mos, lots of flaws but the heart of it is really my kind of movie.

Totally agree- it is so unique and daring as a "mainstream" superhero film. It was bound to turn off lots of people.
I loved it.

 

[LOTRfan85]

Totally agree- it is so unique and daring as a "mainstream" superhero film. It was bound to turn off lots of people.
I loved it.

How is it daring? There is nothing in BVS that has not been seen before in other comic book films. It turned off allot of people because of its glaring issues, lex makes no sense and is rammed down our throats justin hammer style, Batman is so out of character, superman does very little, lois is an idiot in this film, shoving in sequel films and dream sequence after dream sequence, and how Batman and Superman fight is not even about the so called questions they bring up in the film, and that fight along with doomsday feels like it was put in the last minute.

Finally had the time to see the movie a second time.
Its really something unique, flawed but unique.
The montage of Supes saving peoples while intelectuals talk about him is gripping.
The movie has some really awesome scenes, Luthor vs Supes is devilishly cruel, funny and scary.
The opening credit. Bruce monologue, pure bliss.
To me the big mistake tho, especially after seeing civil war, is that the subject of the movie changes after the bat Supes fight.
Doomsday climax is not interresting.
Its too much too fast.
Civil war was nice, entertaining, still spends 1h30 debating questions that were adressed in a more balsy way in Mos and BVS, but yeah its funny, sexy, pop (both suffer from the sale forced fight between heroes).
Far from the BVS mood, but at least civil war stays on its path until the very end.
Il like that BVS is generous but i think they should have stick with bat vs Sup only and keep doomsdays out of it.
I really cant wait to see What the extended Will be like.
Just like Mos, lots of flaws but the heart of it is really my kind of movie.

This is why BVS fails on all levels, before the fight and doomsday, its too busy setting up sequel after sequel, its beyond bad. Now When we look at Civil War and BVS, CW just schools BVS on these issues on every level. Civil War was far superior because the way the villain is written drives the plot forward, because of the villain it makes the transition of introducing new hero's allot more smoother. This is what DC are trying to do against Marvel, its like they are march to the gates of mordor with just Gandulf, legolos and Gimli, no you need an army. Going into CW marvel has in iron man and captain america nearly a decade of his character development, DC has nothing, without development it does not work, and BVS just did not work because they pushed the fast forward button. WB just cannot get it through their skulls, they cannot make a gigantic justice league style film in its second outing, it just does not work. If they did just stick to the title Batman V Superman they may have got away with it, and hey it may have worked. Imagine if all they done for a sequel reference was a batman begins sequel style but keeping it just batman and superman, the film may have been allot more smoother

We can go through both Civil War and BVS in terms of the issues both films use, and it is pretty embarrassing how Civil War just dissects BVS like a fly on every issue both films use. The sad thing is? one knows what they are doing, the other is pushing the panic button, because its distracted trying to catch up, instead of just making the damn film when they don't need to. This is happening a few times, some studios should concentrate on the film they are making then look to expand your universe, by telling us in the film WE ARE MAKING 10 SEQUELS

 

[daikkenaurora]

Directors have shown they can make good to great comic book movies, Snyder said he made this film for the fans, it is what it is, the latter part is right, still its a turd. Its amazing guys like Nolan still keep this guy relevant. When ever you see Snyder talk in how some of his movies get made, you can tell he is more limited has a director than Adam Wests utility belt

Fans? Which fans? Snyder made this film for his ego, not the fans. "You ******* didnt like MoS? I'll show you my vision is perfect"

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-verdict-batman-v-889234?facebook_20160502

The tentpole is almost at the end of its run at the worldwide box office, where it's the No. 7 superhero movie of all time to date, not accounting for inflation; in North America, though, it won't catch up with 'Deadpool.'

The verdict is in: Zack Snyder's Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice will end up as the No. 7 comic book movie of all time at the worldwide box office to date, not accounting for inflation.

Through Sunday, BvS — which is all but done with its run — has grossed $862.9 million globally, including $325.1 million in North America (37.7 percent of its total) and $537.8 million internationally (62.3 percent). It's likely to finish up in the $875 million range when all is said and done, not enough to change the order.

The picture is different in North America, where BvS currently ranks as the No. 11 comic book movie, again not accounting for inflation. It could overtake Guardians of the Galaxy ($333.2 million) to rank as No. 10, and possibly Spider-Man 3 ($336.5 million), but it won't catch up with the recent Deadpool ($361.8 million). Overseas, it's the No. 7 superhero title.

In terms of 2016 titles to date, BvS trails behind Disney's Zootopia, ($931.4 million and counting).

Since BvS' launch in late March, there's been plenty of debate about the movie's performance, and its steep drop-off following a record-breaking opening of $166 million domestically, a best for the month of March.

Warner Bros. is steadfast in proclaiming the tentpole, starring Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill, an enormous victory, saying it successfully launches the DC cinematic universe. (The next outing is director David Ayer's Suicide Squad on Aug. 5., while Snyder is in the midst of shooting the first Justice League.)

BvS, costing at least $225 million to produce before marketing, has grossed notably more than Snyder's Man of Steel, which first introduced Cavill as the newest superman. Released in 2013, Man of Steel took in $668 million globally and $291 million domestically.

"This is fantastic result, by any measure," said Warner Bros. domestic distribution chief Jeff Goldstein.

Some box-office analysts are more circumspect, noting that Dawn of Justice won't get to $900 million, much less $1 billion.

"Still, outside of Christopher Nolan's two Dark Knight movies, and Tim Burton's Batman films when you adjust for inflation, this is the highest-grossing property in DC's bullpen thus far. It tops Man of Steel by more than $200 million," says analyst Jeff Bock. "So yes, BvS successfully relaunched DC's cinematic universe, but they are nowhere near Disney/Marvel in terms of critical reception and box office prowess. One can only hope that bigger and better is still on the way."

Another insider says to become a member of the billion dollar club requires "a great release date, great reviews and solid social media buzz," a trifecta BvS failed to achieve.

 

[LOTRfan85]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-verdict-batman-v-889234?facebook_20160502

Well iron man 3 was not exactly a masterpiece, but it some how ranks no3. Considering how iconic batman and superman are, their names alone is gods in the comic book genre but it some how does not even come close to some of those numbers, for it to fall behind spiderman 3 still is pretty bad, and that film was bad. Considering the prices of tickets have gone up since the dark knight trilogy and spiderman days, even avengers assembled the box office numbers is not exactly blowing anyone away

Fans? Which fans? Snyder made this film for his ego, not the fans. "You ******* didnt like MoS? I'll show you my vision is perfect"

Well watching him on interviews you can tell he cannot explain his own movie he just rambles on about stuff, he comes cross has a guy who still figuring out how he got this far. Just listening to him how BVS was made, just show you why the film was horrible

This is an interesting video of BVS, and the dark knight trilogy, but its hard to take nolan serious these days when he hired snyder in the first place

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FKX1Jm-NNc

 

[kryptonianmutie]

BvS, the most unnecessarily over analyzed financially successful critically panned divisive movie in the history of cinema.