Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[ironwez20]

It would have been too easily to kill Doomsday without also killing himself. I think he was suicidal, like Pa. So yeah, he sacrificed himself. But. . .

Lmao . That explains his somber expression and disappointed face when the wheelchair bomb didn't kill him.

 

[daikkenaurora]

He could've chucked the spear at DD from a distance. Or dragged it from a chain. Or asked Batman to do it, as with that video posted above. Etc.

Dude was flying with the spear when before, he could barely move with it around and almost drowned. The end fight was just not handled well.

 

[jye4ever]

Lmao . That explains his somber expression and disappointed face when the wheelchair bomb didn't kill him.

He was like "Why couldn't the bomb have been filled with kryptonite nails dammit!"

 

[jye4ever]

Dude was flying with the spear when before, he could barely move with it around and almost drowned. The end fight was just not handled well.

I saw it that he gave it all he had to kill DD, he was in the fight all the way knowing that DD would require nothing less from him.

He was weakened though which allowed DD to kill him.

 

[Sevreed]

I saw it that he gave it all he had to kill DD, he was in the fight all the way knowing that DD would require nothing less from him.

He was weakened though which allowed DD to kill him.

Why didn't he just have Wonder Woman do it? He could have even switched her sword with his spear so he could still help finish the fight. Maybe he really was trying to kill himself. He just gave up on the world.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Lmao . That explains his somber expression and disappointed face when the wheelchair bomb didn't kill him.

 

[olbertfrog]

Why didn't he just have Wonder Woman do it? He could have even switched her sword with his spear so he could still help finish the fight. Maybe he really was trying to kill himself. He just gave up on the world.

Because he is Superman and dont want anybody else hurt.
He brought Zod here. He finishes the job.
He would have done What you all are saying and it would be "wtf Supes ws just standing there".
Admit it lol there is no win win possible when yu clearly do not agree with Snyders take.

 

[crows]

Why didn't he just have Wonder Woman do it? He could have even switched her sword with his spear so he could still help finish the fight. Maybe he really was trying to kill himself. He just gave up on the world.

He probably realized lois would never be safe or that he could never truly keep her from harm so he decided to end his life rather than to lose her.
Kinda poetic in a way.


When she was drowning he came to the realization that losing her was something he could not handle
Something he would rather never face.


He chose death over losing lois. He knew there were better ways to killing doomsday
But he chose the way that got him death


That way he would always have love in his heart and not suffering
And if she were to die
He would already be waiting for her in the other side.

 

[spindrift]

Why? Why?Why?

 

[jye4ever]

Because he is Superman and dont want anybody else hurt.
He brought Zod here. He finishes the job.
He would have done What you all are saying and it would be "wtf Supes ws just standing there".
Admit it lol there is no win win possible when yu clearly do not agree with Snyders take.

 

[cmiller99]

Superman IV makes Superman III look like a masterpiece of film.

Yeah I'll catch Superman III every blue moon on TV and watch it usually up until he kills his evil side.

I avoid Superman IV like it's the plague.

Superman III isn't that bad, if you can get past the cornball camp. I still remember how popular Richard Pryor was at that time.

I know it's definitely the unpopular opinion, but I liked III far less than IV.

I avoided III and IV like the plague until I finally watched them for the first time a few years ago.

Maybe I like IV more because at least he's still Superman and he's fighting for good for the whole movie, even if the film is shockingly, inexcusably lazy.

The Evil Superman thing is pointless ultimately and goes nowhere.

Superman III was a miserable experience and just made me want to gouge out my eyes, at least I could laugh at IV.

 

[YoNoSe]

I don't have a problem with Superman grabbing the spear and going for it. It WAS a heroic moment for him. I'm not crazy about Doomsday or the entire final battle but I was never a fan of the "he could have done this, and then she could have done that, and then..." kind of analysis. Other than the weirdness of Lois retrieving the spear in the first place it all played out fairly straightforward. Maybe I missed something, but within the movie logic Clark knew the spear hurt him and therefore assumed it would hurt Doomsday more than anything else they had at their disposal. I know WW said she had killed things from other worlds, but was there anything in the movie that implied her sword would have killed DD/ a Kryptonian specifically? I honestly don't remember.

 

[jye4ever]

Only the kryptonite tipped spear could take this bad moffo out.

 

[crows]

I don't have a problem with Superman grabbing the spear and going for it. It WAS a heroic moment for him. I'm not crazy about Doomsday or the entire final battle but I was never a fan of the "he could have done this, and then she could have done that, and then..." kind of analysis. Other than the weirdness of Lois retrieving the spear in the first place it all played out fairly straightforward. Maybe I missed something, but within the movie logic Clark knew the spear hurt him and therefore assumed it would hurt Doomsday more than anything else they had at their disposal. I know WW said she had killed things from other worlds, but was there anything in the movie that implied her sword would have killed DD/ a Kryptonian specifically? I honestly don't remember.

If she could cut off an arm, she could stab a heart...

Hell, she could have cut off the head. I know you just said of not liking those what if analysis but the movie logic tells us that she owns a weapon that can cut and penetrate kryptonian skin...
We know that, wonder woman is capable of using it, so superman could in theory use the sword without problem.

 

[karamazov80]

The Evil Superman thing is pointless ultimately and goes nowhere.

Superman III was a miserable experience and just made me want to gouge out my eyes, at least I could laugh at IV.

Silence, you! I have very vivid memories of that movie. And therefore, it is good.

I don't have a problem with Superman grabbing the spear and going for it. It WAS a heroic moment for him. I'm not crazy about Doomsday or the entire final battle but I was never a fan of the "he could have done this, and then she could have done that, and then..." kind of analysis. Other than the weirdness of Lois retrieving the spear in the first place it all played out fairly straightforward. Maybe I missed something, but within the movie logic Clark knew the spear hurt him and therefore assumed it would hurt Doomsday more than anything else they had at their disposal. I know WW said she had killed things from other worlds, but was there anything in the movie that implied her sword would have killed DD/ a Kryptonian specifically? I honestly don't remember.

She was cutting him with the sword, for sure. Seems like she might have lopped off a hand or something, though I can't remember. And if she could have done this, then he could have done that.
*insert Fatboy Slim video*

 

[batfan08]

In mos he did give up his entire race to save humanity. That did happen.

In bvs, he sacrifices himself to save louis, not the world. He fights batman not because their ideologies crash but because he was forced to for his moms safety.
He couldnt care less about batman at that point, he didnt even care about batmans light showing in the sky.
He shows up in africa to save louis again,
The entire theme of this movie is how he only really cares about louis.

He sacrifices against doomsday to save louis "HIS WORLD"
It almost makes sacrificing his entire race in mos pointless. Since all he really cared about was louis.
The entire flash dream was about how louis getting hurt would make him become evil....

Like i said, devolve, he went from caring about humans at the end of mos to only care about one human woman

and the movie actually does show him getting annoyed about saving people.

His mom even tells him no NOT BE NONE OF IT, YOU DONT OWE THE WORLD A THING..

We have a superman that after being superman for a couple of years he is ready to call it quits

The next movie should be called

man of steel 2: Superman rises.

How did you come to that conclusion, crows? From where I'm standing, it was clear to me that this was the first time he actually put Superman before Clark Kent. By and large, the entire reason he's called before Congress is because of what happened in Africa, which was largely due to his intervening as Superman in a situation that was really about Clark Kent (saving his girlfriend). Then, Wally bombs Washington, and he's left blaming himself for being conflicted and not knowing which aspect of his life to prioritize. Throughout both movies, you have his mom and dad basically saying that anything he does is his choice, but, as far as they're concerned, the world can go to hell, which, honestly, the more I think about it, seems pretty realistic for parents. You see it a lot of times when people want to join the military, or, really, any time. I don't have kids, but I can't imagine that there's anything more terrifying than the thought of losing your child, or anything more painful than when you do, so, while it is difficult for me to reconcile these people with the kindhearted and selfless Kents we've known since the 1930s, I can appreciate the thought process going into creating these versions of the characters.

The point I'm trying to make is that this has always been on Clark's shoulders. He never had the guidance that comic Superman did because, like normal people would, if put into such a situation, his parents didn't have a ****ing clue, and it shows because, throughout both movies, he wears the suit, and he saves people, and he does all of these things that Superman does, but he hasn't quite figured out what he wants, yet, or, moreover, who he is, and I think that's why his death is the turning point. That's why he says goodbye to Lois, and that's why they didn't try to trick everyone into believing he'll stay dead, because his ultimate sacrifice acts as the realization of him becoming Superman. He's willing to give up everything he held dear; Lois, his mother; to save the world, and you can't get much more Super than that.

 

[Darkseed]

Any alien with those kind of powers that was raised on earth from birth would make all hot girls his sex slave while sending the fat ugly ones to live with the hogs and because of his good looks some might actually enjoy it.

**** saving anyone.

Not the Supes we got but the Supes we deserve

 

[Prime Clone]

I know it's definitely the unpopular opinion, but I liked III far less than IV.

IV is a great "comic book" story. Maybe doesn't translate so well to a movie, but I like the idea of Luthor cloning Supes (just don't get why Nuclear Man didn't look like Reeve!)

 

[YoNoSe]

If she could cut off an arm, she could stab a heart...

Hell, she could have cut off the head. I know you just said of not liking those what if analysis but the movie logic tells us that she owns a weapon that can cut and penetrate kryptonian skin...
We know that, wonder woman is capable of using it, so superman could in theory use the sword without problem.

Silence, you! I have very vivid memories of that movie. And therefore, it is good.


She was cutting him with the sword, for sure. Seems like she might have lopped off a hand or something, though I can't remember. And if she could have done this, then he could have done that.
*insert Fatboy Slim video*

Fair enough.

I only remember WW holding him with the lasso and doing her super-jump....though I can't remember where she landed.

 

[Darkseed]

Doomsday would have pulled it out.

can't trust the pull out method........