Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[crows]

Not really, you want to see what getting Superman wrong REALLY looks like? Read American Alien, that piece of **** does it, and it's praised as a "good" Superman story, now that is some truly pedestrian understanding/rationalization of Superman.

Between what Snyder is doing and what Byrne did, there's really not much difference.


Pretty much.

you watching suicide squad when?

 

[kryptonianmutie]

More of "our updated version of the character is more relatable" crap, nothing new.

So true.

 

[GasparZizou]

you watching suicide squad when?

Whenever I get a chance, I wasn't going to but, I received some encouragement

 

[ZaCHw117]

Whenever I get a chance, I wasn't going to but, I received some encouragement

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Heck, in my book "Superman: Earth One" is on par with MoS in terms of gettin' Superman wrong.
And yes, I know they drew inspiration from SEO for MoS but both are different enough.

For All Seasons

 

[crows]

Whenever I get a chance, I wasn't going to but, I received some encouragement

you will love it, guaranteed

 

[Prime Clone]

Heck, in my book "Superman: Earth One" is on par with MoS in terms of gettin' Superman wrong.

There's no such thing as "wrong". Reinventing, reinterpreting or breaking with tradition maybe. An overgrown boy scout wouldn't "fly" in today's world.

 

[batfan08]

I have my own ideas for a Superman story, but I'm always paranoid about sharing them, on the billion-in-one chance that I might actually be onto something and some stranger on the internet reads them and ****s me over.

 

[batfan08]

Not really, you want to see what getting Superman wrong REALLY looks like? Read American Alien, that piece of **** does it, and it's praised as a "good" Superman story, now that is some truly pedestrian understanding/rationalization of Superman.

Between what Snyder is doing and what Byrne did, there's really not much difference.


Pretty much.

Seriously? I loved American Alien.

 

[SuperJ300]

If he would have made as just a straight up brawler flick without so much inconsistency in the story, I think it would have gave fans what they wanted, and turned out better.

Imagine the movie taking place in one night, no bruce wayne scenes, no stupid bullet story etc. just a straight up "this man has to go down Alfred" story. That's where Snyder shines, simple stories and crazy flair.

Bingo!

That's it, Snyder needs to do it his own way.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

There's no such thing as "wrong". Reinventing, reinterpreting or breaking with tradition maybe. An overgrown boy scout wouldn't "fly" in today's world.

The character has been around for 75 years, they've been doing it wrong

 

[RIDDICK]

There's no such thing as "wrong".

Superman is all about doin' the right thing because he was brought up by right people. Making Clark's parents a bunch of overcaring old crazies and Clark him self a depressed loner who does good only because he loves Lois is nothing but wrong. And the "IN YOUR FACE" Jesus imagery only made it worse.

 

[GasparZizou]

Seriously? I loved American Alien.

I hated it, the bad issues far outweight the 2 or 3 good/tolerable issues. Landis did a couple things great regarding Sups mythos, like having people in Smallville know who he is a keep the secret, I've always wondered why that's not a thing.

Most of everything else, terrible imo, especially the ultra retarded teen-like "drama".

 

[GasparZizou]

There's no such thing as "wrong". Reinventing, reinterpreting or breaking with tradition maybe. An overgrown boy scout wouldn't "fly" in today's world.

Your opening statement is actually factually wrong though

I disagree though, I think what today's cynical and "sardonic" world needs is exactly an overgrown, good hearted traditional boy scout.

I like BvS post-modernism, but it came out a couple decades late

 

[RIDDICK]

I like BvS post-modernism, but it came out a couple decades late

Nah, BvS is fine. On the other hand MoS came out 10 years too late, just like SReturns.

 

[GasparZizou]

I mean, we've only had what are perceived good CBM for less than a decade, questioning Superheroes and "exploring the consequences" could've waited a little bit

Or could've come in the 80's or 90's when everyone was doing it

 

[kryptonianmutie]

Your opening statement is actually factually wrong though

I disagree though, I think what today's cynical and "sardonic" world needs is exactly an overgrown, good hearted traditional boy scout.

I like BvS post-modernism, but it came out a couple decades late

I like your assessment there. I could see myself enjoying BvS more if it came out in the 80's or 90's.

 

[Khev]

For whatever reason I decided to have Superman Returns play as a background movie last weekend while my kids were off doing their thing and my 9 year old daughter came into the family room after it had been playing for maybe 10 minutes and got totally sucked in. She really enjoyed it. I kind of didn't want her to watch it because I figured STM would be the "proper" introduction to the cinematic character but apparently she remembered enough clips from MOS that she kept asking how SR fit in with it.

I thought it was interesting to see how Snyder has made Superman a bit of a one-note rescuer. When Metropolis was falling apart she kept asking, "Whoa! How is Superman going to stop THAT?? What is he going to punch?" And then she got to see him doing all his cool stuff like incinerating debris with his heat vision, cooling the exploding gas mains with his breath, grabbing people out of the sky and setting them on the ground, etc.

Plus the one exchange between Kitty and Lex had her in stitches:

"Kitty what did my father always say?"

"You're losing your hair?"

"BEFORE that."

"Get out?"



Anyway it definitely still has its "issues" but I was surprised by how well it played in the present day and was reminded at how endearing Routh was as Supes. And that Williams score, damn, it just can't be topped.

 

[batfan08]

For whatever reason I decided to have Superman Returns play as a background movie last weekend while my kids were off doing their thing and my 9 year old daughter came into the family room after it had been playing for maybe 10 minutes and got totally sucked in. She really enjoyed it. I kind of didn't want her to watch it because I figured STM would be the "proper" introduction to the cinematic character but apparently she remembered enough clips from MOS that she kept asking how SR fit in with it.

I thought it was interesting to see how Snyder has made Superman a bit of a one-note rescuer. When Metropolis was falling apart she kept asking, "Whoa! How is Superman going to stop THAT?? What is he going to punch?" And then she got to see him doing all his cool stuff like incinerating debris with his heat vision, cooling the exploding gas mains with his breath, grabbing people out of the sky and setting them on the ground, etc.

Plus the one exchange between Kitty and Lex had her in stitches:

"Kitty what did my father always say?"

"You're losing your hair?"

"BEFORE that."

"Get out?"



Anyway it definitely still has its "issues" but I was surprised by how well it played in the present day and was reminded at how endearing Routh was as Supes. And that Williams score, damn, it just can't be topped.

My biggest issue with that movie is the casting director. How the hell do you put Parker Posey in your Superman movie and not have her be Lois Lane? Okay. Maybe that's not my biggest issue with the movie, but it's up there.

 

[GeneralZodLives]

My biggest issue with that movie is the casting director. How the hell do you put Parker Posey in your Superman movie and not have her be Lois Lane? Okay. Maybe that's not my biggest issue with the movie, but it's up there.