Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

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Well, I gotta go see Michelle in a little bit, to make out with her.
 
I've been rewatching Smallville, and, for all its faults, Michael Rosenbaum's Luthor was masterfully portrayed. It's remarkable just how beautifully he wanders that line between dark and light and, frankly, he's just a tragic villain. You see how the Kents' distrust of his father extends to him, and it's kind of heartbreaking because you see just how hard he tries with Clark. All his life, he was alienated and alone, and Clark was probably his only friend in life. I think he would've been like a brother to him, had he just embraced him and let him in on his secret, and that's the thing that's so amazing about it. You know how this story ends, you know what he becomes, and yet, you can argue that Superman failed him more than anyone else. If I could, it's a comic that I would love to see written. One where everything happens as it did, but Clark trusts Lex enough to embrace him with his secret, and you see whether or not that bond could've been enough to save him or whether it would've fallen apart, eventually.

I have defended Eisenberg's Luthor, in the past. I still think it's an interesting interpretation, but there are so many more dimensions that could've been explored than just an obsessive egomaniac. I realize it's off-topic, but this was about the closest thread I could find to talk about it by proxy, outside of resurrecting the Smallville thread.
 
I've been rewatching Smallville, and, for all its faults, Michael Rosenbaum's Luthor was masterfully portrayed. It's remarkable just how beautifully he wanders that line between dark and light and, frankly, he's just a tragic villain. You see how the Kents' distrust of his father extends to him, and it's kind of heartbreaking because you see just how hard he tries with Clark. All his life, he was alienated and alone, and Clark was probably his only friend in life. I think he would've been like a brother to him, had he just embraced him and let him in on his secret, and that's the thing that's so amazing about it. You know how this story ends, you know what he becomes, and yet, you can argue that Superman failed him more than anyone else. If I could, it's a comic that I would love to see written. One where everything happens as it did, but Clark trusts Lex enough to embrace him with his secret, and you see whether or not that bond could've been enough to save him or whether it would've fallen apart, eventually.

I have defended Eisenberg's Luthor, in the past. I still think it's an interesting interpretation, but there are so many more dimensions that could've been explored than just an obsessive egomaniac. I realize it's off-topic, but this was about the closest thread I could find to talk about it by proxy, outside of resurrecting the Smallville thread.

I started rewatching the first season of Smallville a couple months ago and was pleasantly surprised at how well the characters held up after all this time. The show got repetitive and goofy as the seasons went on, but those early seasons did a pretty damn good job with the characters. Rosenbaum's Lex was a fantastic version of the character, especially when compared to Eisenberg's manic peeing in a jar version.
 
After my 3rd viewing I keep liking this more each time I see it. I still don't LOVE it, but I do find it an enjoyable watch.
 
I started rewatching the first season of Smallville a couple months ago and was pleasantly surprised at how well the characters held up after all this time. The show got repetitive and goofy as the seasons went on, but those early seasons did a pretty damn good job with the characters. Rosenbaum's Lex was a fantastic version of the character, especially when compared to Eisenberg's manic peeing in a jar version.

Yeah, it's one of those shows that really slipped over time, and the freak of the week aspect was kind of monotonous in those early seasons, but I particularly love that Kent/Luthor feud. John Glover as Lionel was fantastic, and seeing how he shaped Lex over time really explains a lot, but what I find particularly interesting is how they portrayed Jonathan. I'd say he's a good middle ground between Costner and the others, because, frankly, while he seems to do a good job of raising Clark, for the most part, and encourages him to be a good person who uses his powers responsibly, he's also kind of a stubborn d!ck. The way he treats Lex in those early seasons is pretty ******, but I kind of like how rough around the edges he is. This is a guy who will beat the living hell out of a reporter for trying to expose his son (what is it with you Jonathans and running out into the middle of tornadoes!?!), who will go down into the middle of the Caves Lionel Luthor is studying with a shotgun because Lionel had his farm raided by fake Feds.

All in all, I kind of like that aspect, though. It makes Superman seem more heroic. When Jor-El's a d!ck, Pa Kent's a d!ck, and you grow up to be...not a d!ck.:lol And, as I said, it makes Luthor althemore tragic when you see how he was molded by things out of his control. Taking the rap for Julian's death as a child, so his father couldn't do anything to his mother, being despised by his father for it for a lifetime, being alienated from those around him either because he's different or because he's a Luthor. I'd even go as far as to say never quite being able to earn Clark's trust for those exact same reasons.

It's interesting to see how Smallville, frankly, did the morally ambiguous Superman origin better than MOS managed to. Granted, I suppose there's a lot more room for nuance in multiple, 22-hour seasons, as opposed to a single two and a half hour movie, but, nevertheless, I feel like Snyder could've learned some things from this show.
 
I usually just skip to the wharehouse scene and watch it from there. The rest is just useless prologue.
 
I've been rewatching Smallville, and, for all its faults, Michael Rosenbaum's Luthor was masterfully portrayed. It's remarkable just how beautifully he wanders that line between dark and light and, frankly, he's just a tragic villain. You see how the Kents' distrust of his father extends to him, and it's kind of heartbreaking because you see just how hard he tries with Clark. All his life, he was alienated and alone, and Clark was probably his only friend in life. I think he would've been like a brother to him, had he just embraced him and let him in on his secret, and that's the thing that's so amazing about it. You know how this story ends, you know what he becomes, and yet, you can argue that Superman failed him more than anyone else. If I could, it's a comic that I would love to see written. One where everything happens as it did, but Clark trusts Lex enough to embrace him with his secret, and you see whether or not that bond could've been enough to save him or whether it would've fallen apart, eventually.

I have defended Eisenberg's Luthor, in the past. I still think it's an interesting interpretation, but there are so many more dimensions that could've been explored than just an obsessive egomaniac. I realize it's off-topic, but this was about the closest thread I could find to talk about it by proxy, outside of resurrecting the Smallville thread.

He was treated coldly by his father, who had extremely high, nearly unachievable expectations. Raised by nannies, so few ever showed much genuine love and affection to him. Given everything he could ever dream for in a material sense, so can't relate to other people in any meaningful way. All of this leads to the creation of a petty, selfish person without compassion, who is only concerned with power and defeating his foes. . .

But enough about our elected representatives. Luthor is in some ways a tragic character, though I haven't seen much Smallville.

Not even for free :lol :lol :lol
I wouldn't, if I had the chance.
 
He was treated coldly by his father, who had extremely high, nearly unachievable expectations. Raised by nannies, so few ever showed much genuine love and affection to him. Given everything he could ever dream for in a material sense, so can't relate to other people in any meaningful way. All of this leads to the creation of a petty, selfish person without compassion, who is only concerned with power and defeating his foes. . .

But enough about our elected representatives. Luthor is.....

:lol :lol :lol
 
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