Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[Sweet Rabbit]

Why? You're telling me there's scientific fact that makes Superman real?

What does Superman do that stops his inertia in one direction so that he can bullet-off in another? There's no force expressed in the opposite direction to allow for that.

At least Iron Man has jets and retros that kind of look like it could work.

Watch the show

 

[Wor-Gar]

Watch the show

What show -- the cartoon?

Come on, you guys know its silly. There's a lot of silly stuff in comics (and movies like Star Wars) but not sure anything is as improbable as Superman's flying.

Didn't they even have to change who made his outfit because kids in the 70's said clothing would just tear off him at supersonic speeds if Ma Kent simply stitched together his suit? Isn't that how the whole "his Fortress of Solitude made his suit" came to be?

I think they need to revisit his flying abilities. Maybe have him put his hands out, send waves of energy to turn -- but show it. Usually he's flying with his hands by his side -- what? To be more streamlined? Why does a super-dense being need to be streamlined?

 

[GasparZizou]

I don't understand how inertia, angular momentum and friction work.

I wasn't expecting an answer but you're only driving further the notion that you really don't know physics.

Supes is not a plane.

 

[GasparZizou]

What show -- the cartoon?

Come on, you guys know its silly. There's a lot of silly stuff in comics (and movies like Star Wars) but not sure anything is as improbable as Superman's flying.

Improbable is not impossible, we're talking about physical impossibility not unrealistic improbability, I'm sti expecting an answer of why should it be pbysically impossible for supes to do hairpin turns.

I'll wait, you won't have an answer because you don't know physics, bu I'll wait.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I don't have to be a scientist to know that Superman cannot do Superman things. He cannot stop in midflight without so reverse force. I know you cannot spin the world backwards and turn back time. I know that you do not understand physics any better than me. I also know your name, which drives you crazy.

 

[GasparZizou]

You're right, you don't have to be a scientist to understand basic highschool level mechanics, which you don't.

You're assuming Superman is not in control of his own motion in the air as much as we do when we walk or run, you assume there's no force excerted that could make supes turn so sharply...

I don't know for a fact if I understand physics better than you, but from the looks of it, I do.

It doesn't dirve me crazy as it's not supposed to be a secret, I was curious to know where on FB you met me a Ive me other freaks there, but you went a made a silly.

Say. My. Name.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Improbable is not impossible, we're talking about physical impossibility not unrealistic improbability, I'm sti expecting an answer of why should it be pbysically impossible for supes to do hairpin turns.

I'll wait, you won't have an answer because you don't know physics, bu I'll wait.

You don't understand that you can't just stop without some reverse or opposing force?

 

[Wor-Gar]

You're right, you don't have to be a scientist to understand basic highschool level mechanics, which you don't.

You're assuming Superman is not in control of his own motion in the air as much as we do when we walk or run, you assume there's no force excerted that could make supes turn so sharply...

I don't know for a fact if I understand physics better than you, but from the looks of it, I do.

Say. My. Name.

That's all the time I have for you. Really.

This is what home school gets you. Superman-mechanics.

 

[GasparZizou]

What I don't understand is why do you assume there's no such force.

 

[GasparZizou]

That's all the time I have for you. Really.

This is what home school gets you. Superman-mechanics.

I didn't expect you to fold this quick, guess you undertand even less than I thought you did.

This isn't I ****ing Love Science bro, there are people here who have actually studied physics.

 

[jye4ever]

I would have to agree with Gaspar.

MOS showed us this mysterious force that Superman creates which allows him full pin point locomotive control while airborne.

You see that force gravitate the rocks near his hands and feet before taking off.

It grants him the ability to manipulate his inertia.

Wor-Gar has failed lol.

 

[Wor-Gar]

What I don't understand I why do you assume there's no such force.

This is no answer. This is like the "God" answer -- its impossible to prove so it remains an out.

Even if I was a scientist, and had the formula to present to you, you would always say "well of the known universe"... so yes, this discussion comes to a crashing halt because one person (me) is trying to have a debate and get an answer to my original legitimate question, while the other person (you) is simply answering questions with questions... while making snide comments I might add about my lack of scientific knowledge.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I would have to agree with Gaspar.

Wor-Gar has failed lol.

Great. Another "expert".

 

[GasparZizou]

This is no answer. This is like the "God" answer -- its impossible to prove so it remains an out.

Even if I was a scientist, and had the formula to present to you, you would always say "well of the known universe"... so yes, this discussion comes to a crashing halt because one person (me) is trying to have a debate and get an answer to my original legitimate question, while the other person (you) is simply answering questions with questions... while making snide comments I might add about my lack of scientific knowledge.

You're evading hard Wor, you know your logic is flawed.

We know Superman can suspend on air and propell himself on any given direction, however he can do it; manipulating surrounding gravitons or else, we know he can excert force at will to move in any given direction, and of course innertia, friction and several Gs do not impact him the same way as us, not even as planes.

So, why do you assume he doens't excert force in the opposite direction?

So to answer your own question, how does he do it? The same way he does to propell himself in any direction to begin with, so now answer my question.

 

[jye4ever]

Wor-Gar, accept this now:

 

[Wor-Gar]

So, why do you assume he doens't excert force in the opposite direction?

Finally a reasonable response. I do not assume that -- my original question simply asked: how does he do it.

I don't believe he can do it without exerting a force, and as I said previously, as these 'cartoons' get a more realistic presentation, then so should some of Superman's powers. They go into detail explaining Batman's tricks, let's understand Superman's. If he's a giant Tachyon than say that; if he's exerting a force of some kind, then demonstrate it. Have him "push" with his hands, or have those blurry wave-circle-things coming out of his mind, whatever it is.

A few rocks jiggling before he jumps doesn't tell me anything about how he makes a sudden opposite turn.


I have to head out for Father's Day dinner so I only have so much more time for this silliness.

 

[jye4ever]

Sure it does it tells us everything we need to know, he has a mysterious force that grants him full control of his inertia without having to move a muscle, the gif shows this.

Drops mic lol

 

[GasparZizou]

That was my first question they were all reasonable but you snapped on me for some reason :

He's not a jedi, why would moving his hands do to showcase the manipulation of say gravitons?

If he was flying with pure brute force then maybe, say he moves so fast the air around him becomes almos solid, so turning direction would result in a massive destructive shockwave, then he would need to flail his arms and legs to generate enough friction to turn direction or stop, but I've never seen Superman flight depicted that way.

 

[Wor-Gar]

he has a mysterious force that grants him full control of his inertia without having to move a muscle, the gif shows this.

Then why does he need to 'grab' anything? Why does he pluck Batman's kryptonite grenade out of the air -- why not just use his special 'break' power to keep it from being fired at him. How does the gas even spread around him to breath -- can't he close the field around it, contain it, crush it? And if that's all true, why does he even need to fly? Can't he just bounce there in an instant? Or maybe he'd already be there -- like string theory?

 

[GasparZizou]

Then why does he need to 'grab' anything? Why does he pluck Batman's kryptonite grenade out of the air -- why not just use his special 'break' power to keep it from being fired at him. How does the gas even spread around him to breath -- can't he close the field around it, contain it, crush it? And if that's all true, why does he even need to fly? Can't he just bounce there in an instant? Or maybe he'd already be there -- like string theory?

Dude, what? No, you're mixing a whole bunch of random things that hav nothing to do with each other.