Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)
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GasparZizou
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
IM3 works better, tested.
That cowl gave me a bad feeling, looked to much like Avenger's Cap's.
Yup to all that, I like Marvel too, most of it's characters don't interest me in the slightest but the ones that do I'm a big fan of, but I would never hesitate in putting DC before Marvel, in my book they're still creatively doing things better than Marvel in the movie turf so far, in comics Marvel's doing better though.
IM3 works better, tested.
Hey now, I was about to start rooting for Flash after the cowl pic.... until they showed the full suit.
That cowl gave me a bad feeling, looked to much like Avenger's Cap's.
batfan08
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
To be fair, why don't we wait to see how it looks in action? Plus, if it still looks terrible, who cares? How many costume changes are there in superhero movies, alone? I'm sure they could always amp it up a notch for season 2. They'll probably have a throwaway line in the season finale where he says "this thing chafes like a *****" to Iris, and he comes back looking like Usain Lightning-Bolt in Season 2.
Hey now, I was about to start rooting for Flash after the cowl pic.... until they showed the full suit.
To be fair, why don't we wait to see how it looks in action? Plus, if it still looks terrible, who cares? How many costume changes are there in superhero movies, alone? I'm sure they could always amp it up a notch for season 2. They'll probably have a throwaway line in the season finale where he says "this thing chafes like a *****" to Iris, and he comes back looking like Usain Lightning-Bolt in Season 2.
jye4ever
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
MOS 2 w/o Batman would be disastrous for WB at this point.
So they need heavy hitter Batman to babysit the MOS just to take on Cap.
MOS 2 w/o Batman would be disastrous for WB at this point.
So they need heavy hitter Batman to babysit the MOS just to take on Cap.
GasparZizou
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
It seems to me they refer to DC vs Marvel not Batman/Cap.
It seems to me they refer to DC vs Marvel not Batman/Cap.
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
So my hope is that this kind of thing will spur both companies on to produce better products as a response to the competition. But if that's gonna happen, WB has got to back off of the Snyder/Goyer focus IMO. They just don't have it in them to make really good movies. They seem to be pushing Goyer out already, which is good, but they need to go further, bringing in new blood, thinking outside the box creatively, and ultimately embracing some of the tone and essence of comic books that Marvel doesn't shy away from while WB apparently does (possibly a Nolan hangover effect).
Beyond that, the whole way they've moved toward shoving more and more into Superman/Batman makes me think of the recent Justice League: War animated DVD, and I think is another sign that they are creatively bereft. I thought that DVD was pretty mediocre. It had potential, and some really cool stuff going on, but they tried shoving way too much into too short of a story, and as a result most of the cool stuff got overshadowed or under-explored. And while some of the action scenes should have been great and memorable, they were too easy to forget when mashed together with dozens of other action scenes, one after another, without giving the viewer time to process what was going on, and without developing a proper dramatic context. If Superman/Batman does that, then I think DC could be ****ed. Because I don't think audiences are as dumb as studios may think, and I don't know that these films can skirt by on brand recognition, explosions, ****, and stupid jokes in the way that Transformers seems to.
I love DC, and I love Marvel, as comic companies (historically), and as the source of all these great characters that mostly Jack Kirby/Stan Lee and their DC counterparts are responsible for.
So my hope is that this kind of thing will spur both companies on to produce better products as a response to the competition. But if that's gonna happen, WB has got to back off of the Snyder/Goyer focus IMO. They just don't have it in them to make really good movies. They seem to be pushing Goyer out already, which is good, but they need to go further, bringing in new blood, thinking outside the box creatively, and ultimately embracing some of the tone and essence of comic books that Marvel doesn't shy away from while WB apparently does (possibly a Nolan hangover effect).
Beyond that, the whole way they've moved toward shoving more and more into Superman/Batman makes me think of the recent Justice League: War animated DVD, and I think is another sign that they are creatively bereft. I thought that DVD was pretty mediocre. It had potential, and some really cool stuff going on, but they tried shoving way too much into too short of a story, and as a result most of the cool stuff got overshadowed or under-explored. And while some of the action scenes should have been great and memorable, they were too easy to forget when mashed together with dozens of other action scenes, one after another, without giving the viewer time to process what was going on, and without developing a proper dramatic context. If Superman/Batman does that, then I think DC could be ****ed. Because I don't think audiences are as dumb as studios may think, and I don't know that these films can skirt by on brand recognition, explosions, ****, and stupid jokes in the way that Transformers seems to.
jye4ever
Broke and happy
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
Unfortunately Transformers makes billions.
Unfortunately Transformers makes billions.
jye4ever
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
DC vs Marvel.
DC vs Marvel.
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I'm a fan of both too and I just wanna see WB bring their A game. To see a fully realized cinematic Justice League is almost too much to hope for. WB should be learning from Marvel and building on some sort of recognizeable foundation. MOS has too many issues to build off of. Good thing DC has so much going for it in the video game and TV category. We might be looking at another decade before the current team responsible for the most recent films moves on.
I'm a fan of both too and I just wanna see WB bring their A game. To see a fully realized cinematic Justice League is almost too much to hope for. WB should be learning from Marvel and building on some sort of recognizeable foundation. MOS has too many issues to build off of. Good thing DC has so much going for it in the video game and TV category. We might be looking at another decade before the current team responsible for the most recent films moves on.
GasparZizou
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
That was awful, poor deer.
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jye4ever
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thenammagazine
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
This is the CW/WB we're talking about. Looking at their track record, I'd have to argue at best, you're reaching.
Read the part I bolded in Jye's post.
To be fair, why don't we wait to see how it looks in action? Plus, if it still looks terrible, who cares? How many costume changes are there in superhero movies, alone? I'm sure they could always amp it up a notch for season 2. They'll probably have a throwaway line in the season finale where he says "this thing chafes like a *****" to Iris, and he comes back looking like Usain Lightning-Bolt in Season 2.
This is the CW/WB we're talking about. Looking at their track record, I'd have to argue at best, you're reaching.
Read the part I bolded in Jye's post.
GasparZizou
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
Oh right, my bad, but I thought IM was their poster boy
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Read the part I bolded in Jye's post.
Oh right, my bad, but I thought IM was their poster boy
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batfan08
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
That's fair. By the way, have you checked out Arrow, yet?
This is the CW/WB we're talking about. Looking at their track record, I'd have to argue at best, you're reaching.
Read the part I bolded in Jye's post.
That's fair.
By the way, have you checked out Arrow, yet?
thenammagazine
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jye4ever
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
That's whats great about MCU, they're building multiple poster boys AND girls.
No Batman = No WB/DC CU.
That's whats great about MCU, they're building multiple poster boys AND girls.
No Batman = No WB/DC CU.
GasparZizou
Super Freak
Batman vs. Superman (2016)
I knew you were gonna do that.
At least DCs doing that to marvel in video games and animation.
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I knew you were gonna do that.
At least DCs doing that to marvel in video games and animation.
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jye4ever
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
I know you were gonna do that.
At least DCs doing that to marvel in video games and animation.
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thenammagazine
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
Season One is bought and on my to-do list for summer!
Flash... is off that list now.
That's fair.
Season One is bought and on my to-do list for summer!
Flash... is off that list now.
GasparZizou
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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)
That's my point I don't see Cap receiving half the love and attention IM got.
Yeah everybody's hyped about CA2 now, but IM got on Batmans level for a while in terms of internet memes, and you oughta know, that a very accurate popularity measure method
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Key word there.
That's my point I don't see Cap receiving half the love and attention IM got.
Yeah everybody's hyped about CA2 now, but IM got on Batmans level for a while in terms of internet memes, and you oughta know, that a very accurate popularity measure method
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