Battlestar Galactica Episode Thread *SPOILERS*

[darthviper107]

I vote Zack Adama

 

[Sick Boy 82]

I want it to be anyone but Geta. I ^^^^ing hate that ^^^^^ ass mother^^^^er!!

I think any other choice will be cool, except Zack. It just wouldn't fit whatsoever, as he has been dead for so long. I think the point was to have the Final 5 with the humans to make them more human.

 

[darthviper107]

Gaeta, no way.

Zack would fit, the only problem is that he was only seen during the miniseries, so it's kind of random.

 

[Darth Caedus]

Gah, I cannot wait for tonight. Especially if we finally know who the Final Cylon will be. As to your theory cereal, I really doubt it. If the nuking was that recent there would be bodies EVERYWHERE. I actually like the theory Caedus has that the 13th Tribe were the survivors of whatever happened, they founded the 12 colonies and then made up the 13th Tribe. Makes a lot of sense when you think about the fact that they would have been able to take natural events and turn them INTO sign posts.

I vote Zack Adama

was watching an episode earlier today during the marathon. It was Apollo and the Admiral talking and Apollo said:

"What if it was Zach that came out of that Viper and not Kara? Would it have made any difference?"

That could have been MAJOR foreshadowing. Kara was also said to be a harvinger of doom. And wasn't it Kara who passed Zach on his flight training and that led to his death...Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

 

[Memnoch]

Mid way through and HOLY FRAK! Just.. wow.

AND THE FIFTH IS ELLEN TIGH!

 

[Natrix]

Well that hour was ^^^^ing intense!

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Holy frakking flying dagget poo!

What a way to open the final season!!

 

[Memnoch]

So I cant wait to find out WHAT Kara is. I hope there is another Ellen out there somewhere. I wish there was going to be more, becuase Im gonna be sad to see this end.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

So I cant wait to find out WHAT Kara is. I hope there is another Ellen out there somewhere. I wish there was going to be more, becuase Im gonna be sad to see this end.

Ditto!

Tonight's episode left me speechless and had my jaw dropping the whole hour.

:eek

 

[turtlepower73]

that was a jaw dropper and i missed the end. did she end up being a cyclon...deleted ...

 

[Darth Caedus]

Loved how the Centurion remains found were the old school ones from the old series. Really goes with the story that it happened once and will happen again.

So...during Tyrol and Saul's flashback, there were other people on Earth who were next to them dying. Were those HUMANS or OTHER CYLONS?????? If they were Cylons, I was expecting a whole world of the same people. If they were humans, then how could all the bones examined by Cylons. Unless all people are initially cylons and the 5th cylon is really all humans.

I think that ALL the people on Earth were cylons, each as different as humans, but only the 12 found a way to save themselves (per Ellen's speech that "Everything's in place ... we will be reborn"). If that is true, then maybe Starbuck really is a cylon, just not one of the models who found a way to survive after Earth was bombed.

There has been an ongoing theme of what comes before happens again and them finding Earth destroyed follows that path. I really love the philosophy of the show, it's much more that than Sci-Fi for me. Methinks that the 13th tribe was actually the First tribe and the survivors of Earth went on to create the 12 colonies and created the mythos of the 13th tribe and Earth for a way for their "children" to find their way home.

Now that they have found "home", the cylons and humans are going to have to find a way to coexist. They will discover, I think, that even though they were from different origins, they are essentially the same.

So I guess I was kinda right, I'm thinking that the person who wrote those scriptures that Roslin was burning was also a cylon. Maybe as a way to break the chain of the destruction of humans and cylons happening over and over again. Like a time-loop, but a cylon decided to leave breadcrumbs to stop the loop from happening.

I'm probably wrong, but what a way to open the season. Since nobody has mentioned it, poor Dee

Just got a brainwave, anyone remember in the first season, maybe the second season, that Ellen Tigh just showed up out of nowhere. Saul thought she was dead, but she just ends up on one of the colonial ships.....Hmmmmmm

Was Dee humming the same song that the 4 cylons heard when they found out they were cylons?

 

[DarkArtist81]

Yeah, what a way to start the last 10 episodes! Talk about bleak!

I kinda suspected it would be someone that was dead, seeing as though they weren't activated in the nebula like the rest. Lately, I was pretty sure it was Starbuck. But having it be Ellen was a shocker, that kinda explains the mystery surrounding that character. And it makes her death all the more messed up.

And it was creepy seeing the REAL Starbuck dead in her cockpit like that, to think that the woman we knew from the story... the one we followed along with... that's her skeleton. It's one thing to know she blew up, but to actually see the body.. really makes it more concrete. Still leaves the question of what she is.

I think Caedus has a point, something I was thinking of when I was watching. Tyrol sees himself in a very normal looking city with a lot of other people. Yet the bones found are ALL Cylon bones. So the entire civilization must have been Cylon, there was just something special about the 5 we know. So Starbuck might still be a Cylon, just one that wasn't part of the original 12.

As for Dee, I had it read from the moment she broke down on Earth. The signs were all there, and once she shifted over to acting normal... I knew she had made her choice. Still it was pretty shocking, and to see Galactica falling apart like it was... it gave the whole episode a feeling of anarchy. Like anything could happen at any given moment.

I can't wait to see the next episode already. 9 to go.

 

[darthviper107]

Wow, that was shocking.

Starbuck must be a Cylon, but then Ellen his too, so this is weird. Poor Dee, she was being too happy and I expected her to die at some point, but that was very sudden.

What if the Cylons created humans to try and stop the cycle?

Finale is going to be intense.

 

[Darth Caedus]

It's funny, on IMBD, it has Kandyse McClure (who plays Dee) credited for the rest of the episodes of the series....PLEASE RESURRECT !!!!!

Also Zak Adama is also credited for the last 3 episodes of the series...Man, this is going to get gnarly

 

[cerealkeller]

Am I the only one disappointed by this episode? First the nuclear war happened two thousand years ago and buildings are still standing and haven't rusted away to nothingness? Also, why is there barely any vegetation? With no humans or cylons around, vegetation should be flourishing after two thousand years. Seemed sloppy science to me.

Also, seriously ELLEN FRACKIN TIGH? Are you kidding me? A character that I hope I'm not alone in feeling no attachment to? They mine as well picked Hot Dog or Racetrack. Seriously, that seemed to come out of nowhere and I'm sure that was their intent but making the final Cylon a throw away character also doesn't equate to good storytelling. They better redeem themselves with the next 9 episodes because i was seriously let down. I've LOVED this series until this moment, now it seems they just got sloppy with writing and their commitment to make the show science fiction, but also plausible science fiction.

 

[darthviper107]

The ruins would still be there, it's made of rock and metal, metal would definitely still be there, and if you're wondering about rock, look at Stonehenge, that's still around and was made much longer than 2,000 years. I don't see the problem with vegetation, there's plants, plus we don't know where they are exactly, or what time of year. Plus, remember that everything is contaminated with radiation.

I don't like the idea of Ellen Tigh as the fifth Cylon either, but it seems that Starbuck is also a Cylon so that's a bit redeeming.

The only problem I had with the episode is how dark it is, almost makes you want to cut your wrists...

 

[McHavyck]

Gods damn, I love this show!!
Quite possibly the best writing on TV.

Although, I am starting to think EVERYONE is a toaster.
And poor Dee.

 

[Memnoch]

I actually LOVE the idea of Ellen as the fifth KNOWN lost model because that was what destroyed Tigh after New Caprica. He even thought of her when the switch went off. The fact that there may be another Ellen out there somewhere is going to lead to some interesting places for him I hope.

 

[DarkArtist81]

I actually LOVE the idea of Ellen as the fifth KNOWN lost model because that was what destroyed Tigh after New Caprica. He even thought of her when the switch went off. The fact that there may be another Ellen out there somewhere is going to lead to some interesting places for him I hope.

Same here. I think it's great for Tigh's character as well. And it answers the question of why the fifth Cylon wasn't activated at the nebula with the rest. So it makes sense to me.

And as DarthViper said, the ruins would still be there, especially in the way they were shown. You couldn't discern that it was a modern city from the ruins, they were so decayed. And the vegetation, well... if the planet were nuked as heavily as it would need to be for the entire population to die... the radiation would be so high that it would take the planet a long time to recover from the trauma.

In our own history, after the first massive extinction event at the end of the Paleozoic era...it took the planet a while to bounce back from that. We're talking an Earth wasteland for at least a few million years. The recovery process didn't begin until 6 million years after the event and took 30 million years to fully recover.

So it makes sense to me, scientifically. Depending on how harsh the bombing was, it very well could effect biodiversity on the planet for at least a few thousand years.

 

[galactiboy]

There was actually a really cool show called A World W/o Humans, or something like that, and it basically went over what would happen to the planet over the course of thousands of years if one day humans just dissappeared. I think the landscape was pretty believable... but I don't think metal jacks or a wood fretboard would have faired so well

But, that's a minor quibble with what was a great and incredibly depressing episode. Its nice to be finally caught up and watching new episodes

And does make sense that Ellen was a Cylon, especially given here odd reappearance on Galactica. But still curious about what Thrace is and how that all came about and where the series will ultimately end up