**Beware SPOILERS** Obi-Wan Kenobi Series on Disney+ **Beware SPOILERS**

[matrix69]

Brings a whole new meaning to: I've been waiting for you Obi-Wan...











Also: When I left you I was a Man... Now I am a Woman!

With his saber in hand...ready to ignite

 

[ajp4mgs]

Yeah they've really made a point to say that the Inquisitors are capable of finding not just Jedi but anyone who is Force sensitive even if they don't know how to use their powers. Like you said though it will be very exciting to see how they perfectly explain why Leia will be left alone for the next 10 years since we know that they're super on point when it comes to continuity, lol.

Aside from not being able to decipher that Leia is Force sensitive, the whole connection between Leia, the Inquisitors, and Kenobi in general is mind-boggling to me. You're right to suggest that they need to button this up in the next two episodes to explain how Leia is left alone, but how in the world could they even manage to do it after everything they've already established?

Reva has let Vader know that Kenobi's connection to Bail is ongoing, that Bail knows how to reach Obi-Wan, and that Obi-Wan will take whatever risk necessary to save Leia. So, it makes Vader an absolute idiot not to (rightfully) interrogate Bail between the time of this show and ANH. Bail is harboring knowledge of the whereabouts of an Imperial fugitive. If interrogation doesn't work, a Force "mind probe" of Bail would reveal Kenobi's hideout. It's so easy to connect the dots for Vader here (if he wasn't an idiot, that is).

And even outside of using legal authority, how would Leia not be used as bait to blackmail Kenobi into popping up again to save her during the course of TEN entire years!?

I doubt these writers even care enough to make a half-hearted effort to address any of this, though.

 

[chrisstbh]

If Reva dies this gets a 6/10 overall

If Reva survives it's getting a 2/10

 

[Wor-Gar]

So, it makes Vader an absolute idiot not to (rightfully) interrogate Bail between the time of this show and ANH. Bail is harboring knowledge of the whereabouts of an Imperial fugitive. If interrogation doesn't work, a Force "mind probe" of Bail would reveal Kenobi's hideout. It's so easy to connect the dots for Vader here (if he wasn't an idiot, that is).

You are absolutely correct. So this show better end with Obi-Wan faking his own death at the very least.

Otherwise, Bail would be a dead man. Although, there's nothing to suggest in ANH that Bail is actually alive at that time. Perhaps he was taken and tortured for years. Or killed himself. Or...

Disney presents: The Bail Organa Show!!!! Starring.... Bail Organa.... and that loveable, reckless teen heart-throb, Leia Organa.

 

[a-dev]

Welcome back ajp. I called on you a couple of times but I don't know how to tag members so you wouldn't have gotten notification.

I had once hoped this show could be my personal ''true PT'' whereas I remember you had said it was unlikely you could accept the show if it had Kenobi facing off against Vader again - who knew the myriad of other ways in which it would break canon. Yeah, 2 episodes to go but I'm pretty sure this is a write-off.

There's been a couple of scenes I liked, mostly in the first episode. The casting of Joel Edgerton as a younger Owen Lars remains a great one. And if I ever was envisioning a child version of Leia I think they did well with this young actress. Her scenes with her parents on Alderaan were what I could imagine as canonical. The stuff with solitary Obi-Wan going about his daily life and his dealings with the jawa were great.

Unfortunately once the Inquisitors arrive, Leia is kidnapped and the actual plot of the show starts it all goes down the drain.

 

[greygoose]

If Reva dies this gets a 6/10 overall

If Reva survives it's getting a 2/10

Given there's talk of a second series I imagine it's more likely the 2.

 

[chrisstbh]

Given there's talk of a second series I imagine it's more likely the 2.

Well I read the leaks that have been pretty spot on so far...

Spoiler

Reva is killed by Vader at the end of the finale because she claims to have killed Kenobi (lie).

But seemingly that's been cut to allow for a second season.

I really don't want a second season

 

[ajp4mgs]

Welcome back ajp. I called on you a couple of times but I don't know how to tag members so you wouldn't have gotten notification.

I had once hoped this show could be my personal ''true PT'' whereas I remember you had said it was unlikely you could accept the show if it had Kenobi facing off against Vader again - who knew the myriad of other ways in which it would break canon. Yeah, 2 episodes to go but I'm pretty sure this is a write-off.

There's been a couple of scenes I liked, mostly in the first episode. The casting of Joel Edgerton as a younger Owen Lars remains a great one. And if I ever was envisioning a child version of Leia I think they did well with this young actress. Her scenes with her parents on Alderaan were what I could imagine as canonical. The stuff with solitary Obi-Wan going about his daily life and his dealings with the jawa were great.

Unfortunately once the Inquisitors arrive, Leia is kidnapped and the actual plot of the show starts it all goes down the drain.

Thank you, my friend. We seem to be very much on the same page here.

I agree that Edgerton is a great younger Owen. I agree that little Leia was also well cast (there have been times I marvel at how she evokes Carrie's Leia... even if there are certain line deliveries that are cringe). And I also agree that Tatooine Kenobi in Ep1 was well done.

All of this makes it that much more difficult to stomach how much of the OT lore has been ignored or outright contradicted. If it was entirely awful like BoBF, I would just give it the finger and forget about it; no big deal. But it's more frustrating to see so much promise where I wasn't expecting there to be any and then have to observe such a willingness to mess with and redefine context from the movie that started it all 45 years ago. The first Star Wars (and OT in general) should never be redefined this way.

I have no problem with how the title character has been portrayed, but there's a ton of stuff involving him that I have huge problems with. And there are implications regarding the portrayal of Vader that drive me crazy. Screw Disney!

 

[greygoose]

Well I read the leaks that have been pretty spot on so far...

Spoiler

Reva is killed by Vader at the end of the finale because she claims to have killed Kenobi (lie).

But seemingly that's been cut to allow for a second season.

I really don't want a second season

They should have kept that in regardless of a second season.

 

[jaztermareal]

You are absolutely correct. So this show better end with Obi-Wan faking his own death at the very least.

Otherwise, Bail would be a dead man. Although, there's nothing to suggest in ANH that Bail is actually alive at that time. Perhaps he was taken and tortured for years. Or killed himself. Or...

Disney presents: The Bail Organa Show!!!! Starring.... Bail Organa.... and that loveable, reckless teen heart-throb, Leia Organa.

wasn't Bail on Yavin 4? unless I am remembering another character entirely. been years since last watched


edit: though it wasn't clear on screen apparently the character I am thinking of was called vanden willard. so bail could indeed be dead.

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[ScoutingForToys]

Oh yeah, there's no way I'm watching a second season of this snoozefest.
I regret not sticking to my original plan of not watching the first season.
This show has been utter arse gravy at times.

 

[Khev]

You are absolutely correct. So this show better end with Obi-Wan faking his own death at the very least.

Otherwise, Bail would be a dead man. Although, there's nothing to suggest in ANH that Bail is actually alive at that time.

He was in RO though which ends just moments before ANH and they had him heading off to tell Leia to contact Obi-Wan as the Rebels were attacking Scarif.

 

[Khev]

Aside from not being able to decipher that Leia is Force sensitive, the whole connection between Leia, the Inquisitors, and Kenobi in general is mind-boggling to me. You're right to suggest that they need to button this up in the next two episodes to explain how Leia is left alone, but how in the world could they even manage to do it after everything they've already established?

Reva has let Vader know that Kenobi's connection to Bail is ongoing, that Bail knows how to reach Obi-Wan, and that Obi-Wan will take whatever risk necessary to save Leia. So, it makes Vader an absolute idiot not to (rightfully) interrogate Bail between the time of this show and ANH. Bail is harboring knowledge of the whereabouts of an Imperial fugitive. If interrogation doesn't work, a Force "mind probe" of Bail would reveal Kenobi's hideout. It's so easy to connect the dots for Vader here (if he wasn't an idiot, that is).

And even outside of using legal authority, how would Leia not be used as bait to blackmail Kenobi into popping up again to save her during the course of TEN entire years!?

I doubt these writers even care enough to make a half-hearted effort to address any of this, though.

Yep they screwed all that up for the sole purpose of shoehorning Reva into the story. They should have had Leia kidnapped by someone other than the Empire so that Kenobi's efforts to rescue her wouldn't be witnessed by Vader and the Inquisitors first hand. Then they could have come up with some other excuse for Obi-Wan and Vader to cross paths that didn't directly involve Leia.

Unless of course they actually try to connect the dots with ANH and have the show end with Vader thinking Kenobi is dead like Wor-Gar suggested.

 

[Wor-Gar]

He was in RO though which ends just moments before ANH and they had him heading off to tell Leia to contact Obi-Wan as the Rebels were attacking Scarif.

Oh that's right. So he is alive.

That leaves the only option for this show is to "kill" Obi-Wan in a fake death so the Empire leaves Bail and his family alone.

 

[jaztermareal]

Oh that's right. So he is alive.

That leaves the only option for this show is to "kill" Obi-Wan in a fake death so the Empire leaves Bail and his family alone.

nah, they will just have vader tell young tarkin that bail is a jedi sympathiser and needs to be killed. Tarkin will just wait a decade to actually do it because reasons

 

[Khev]

lol

 

[jaztermareal]

lol

Enter current year stunning and brave Lucia Skywalker

 

[greygoose]

Enter current year stunning and brave Lucia Skywalker

 

[Ramatuelle]

Interesting contrast between Fett and Vader.

Both were unnaturally created to do the will of an evil master.

Anakin had no father and Fett had no mother.

Both wore awesome costumes and badass masks and had mutual respect for one another as adults.

Both got more fleshed out backstories showing that despite their creation and upbringing they both seek to have and preserve their respective "families."

Both have their flesh melted and get horribly scarred but a key difference is that Fett does not pursue his goals through any means necessary. He draws the line at hurting or killing kids whereas Vader has no such limitations and even doubles down on the kid killing throughout his career. As a result Fett does earn the respect, loyalty, and even love that he was looking for and is healed of his wounds. Vader comes to this realization too late to capitalize on any of it and dies a scarred old man, with only that last moment with Luke as his recompense.

People can say what they want about Fett, who admittedly has killed a lot of people - although most of those had it coming.

Vader killed BILLIONS. He randomly killed people he just didnt like the look of, he killed people who happened to annoy him. He killed people for no reason whatsoever! Fett never did that.

Its really like comparing a jaywalker to John Wayne Gacy.

 

[Bleah]

I'd watch! At least she'd pad out the costume better
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