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The famous Vader/Ben meet up in New Hope and the dialogue remains in tact.

But the Leia/Obi stuff is a mess. Love those two together but it kinda breaks New Hope. I’d love to hear their explanation for it. How on earth are they going to explain how it makes sense?
 
this episode wasn't as bad as the previous ones, but maybe it was the fan service involved.

all i can say is hot toys please. ill buy it now. if a imperial droid can have like 5 seconds of screen time, surely they can give it...

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That DS makeup is awful.
 
The famous Vader/Ben meet up in New Hope and the dialogue remains in tact.

But the Leia/Obi stuff is a mess. Love those two together but it kinda breaks New Hope. I’d love to hear their explanation for it. How on earth are they going to explain how it makes sense?
can i add with the leia part, im not the hugest fan of reva meeting luke and throwing him off that little rock. kid's gonna have trauma, that doesn't sit well with me and how obi wan met him since they seemed like total strangers 10 years later?? i dont get the thought process behind that. i think luke shouldn't have been involved at all and leia should at least had a small smidge of an adventure to explain how she knows obi wan, not what she was put through in the show.
 
Overall I think a lot of us know what to expect from this show. A couple of 'cool' moments and some reasonable performances that are let down by the writing and budgetary constraints.

Parts of the duel were good and I liked Ewan to the point where throughout the series I'd have preferred to have more breathing room where the action or imminent peril receded, and we could have had scenes where Obi-Wan could relax a little (and be more like how we see him in ANH) rather than being in a permanently stressed out.

I enjoyed seeing more of Owen and Beru - glad that Bonnie Piesse had some lines this time. I noticed that the most engaging moments for me were whenever John Williams' themes stirred up in the background. I don't know if that is intelligent use of music, or cheap exploitation of our conditioning, but appreciated nonetheless.

I also enjoy writing down all the things that didn't make sense to me. These kind of things don't make me 'hate' a show, but it leaves me befuddled as to why the writers simply couldn't have made it better, rather than putting themselves into a corner or a logic-free zone.

1) How did Reva get from Jabiim to Tatooine? Did the Empire kindly leave her ship, topped up with Coaxium (TM)?

2) Why does the Empire refuse to use TIE fighters under any circumstances? Again, is it due to the rising price of Coaxium (TM)?

3) Was it just me or did the Star Destroyer look tiny (compared to what we're used to) while chasing the transport?

4) Did the 'Path' group ever think about using the ship from episode 4, which clearly had a working hyperdrive to have got them to Jabiim, as their primary escape vessel, rather than using it as the decoy and flying off in one that was broken down...

5) A hangover from the previous episode, but why does Darth Vader tolerate the Grand Inquisitor? He was taken down by Reva - surely that would severely lower him in anyone's book

6) Wasn't it lucky that the first person Reva encounters knew who Owen was and where exactly he lived. And then knew exactly where to find him on the day he happened to be in town when he was shopping for speeder parts.

7) What the hell was Reva's plan? Kill Luke? Why? To get revenge on Obi-Wan somehow? Bail's message didn't actually say what the significance of Luke and Leia was, so to her surely he's just some random kid who Obi-Wan may have been protecting because he was Force sensitive?

8) The fight scene between Obi-Wan and Vader was generally pretty good, but one of the best things about previous fights in Star Wars has been setting up the environment. E.g. the Carbon Freezing Chamber, the lava fields on Mustafar, the Theed Generator complex. All these environments add another dimension to the fight that you just don't get when fighting in a wide empty space in the Volume.

9) How was Obi-Wan not crushed to death by those rocks? Maybe if it had left it a bit more ambiguous as to how they fell, but they were right in his face!

10) Conversely, why is Vader semi-immune to massive rock strikes?

11) There were comments earlier in the thread about the potential of the TFU style battle-damaged Vader. I bet Vader eventually will think, why does this always keep happening to me in exactly the same way (e.g. vs. Ahsoka in Rebels). Bet he's glad for that helmet. At least he didn't get back up and fight on as I'm in the camp that he should be dying at that point.

12) If Obi-Wan truly believed Anakin to now have been completely destroyed by Darth Vader, why didn't he finish him and save the galaxy from all the evil he had the potential to do?

13) Wait if Obi-Wan's ship had a working hyperdrive, why didn't the Path put the refugees onto it and immediately escape? I bet they would have all fit in if they crammed. After all, it looked about the same size as the cargo hold of the main transport!

14) Do you think in ANH when Obi-Wan tells Luke about the Force, he was actually thinking 'So that's what was causing all that noise and ruckus when the scary lady with the red glow stick came to visit... She was certainly weird looking for a sand person...'

15) Ever since TFA, I really dislike how lightspeed now seems to get you from A to B instantaneously, such as Obi-Wan to Tatooine in time to join the party.

15) Reva is surely now a massive security risk. Who knows who she'd blab to, especially if captured. They should have made her stay with Obi-Wan. I smell a sitcom...

16) I hope they didn't leave Reva's lightsaber in the sand there. That could be a hazard for 10 year old boys...

17) Empire decided not to check in with Bail given that they all knew his daughter had been kidnapped and see if he had any light to shed on proceedings?

18) I'd have liked to have seen Haja living it up on Alderaan with a big reward for having brought Leia home. Missed opportunity.

19) Another missed opportunity for a MASSIVE Emperor hologram. I think that once Emperor, Palpatine would only ever have wanted to appear in MASSIVE form. After all he clearly had one installed in Vader's meditation chamber (space bedroom) so I bet he could have had a word with the contractors who built Vader's castle to slip one in there.

20) Finally, I saw Liam Neeson in something else recently (Derry Girls - a Northern Irish sitcom, proving no part is too small for him!) and he didn't look as weird as he did here. Why was he squinting?! Why didn't he have more lines?!


Anyway, that list was longer than I expected. I didn't hate it, didn't love it. I'll watch it again with my wife over the weekend, but as previous episodes have proven, it's a great way for her to get an afternoon nap....


Until Season 2!

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It's easier to consign the whole of this to William S. Burroughs' 'It Never Happened Department', as I did with the PT, the ST and TBOBF.

Disney will keep cobbling these pointless series together to fill their channel and generate toy sales.

Star Wars was already self-contradictory when it only had three films to its name, because George was making things up as he went along. :lol
 
can i add with the leia part, im not the hugest fan of reva meeting luke and throwing him off that little rock. kid's gonna have trauma, that doesn't sit well with me and how obi wan met him since they seemed like total strangers 10 years later?? i dont get the thought process behind that. i think luke shouldn't have been involved at all and leia should at least had a small smidge of an adventure to explain how she knows obi wan, not what she was put through in the show.
He knows who Ben is in A New Hope, and Obi says in this episode that he will keep his distance from now on. You generally don’t form a massive attachment to someone after meeting them once. They are essentially strangers still.
 
IMO pulled it together at the end. As best as anything this limp, clunky, character derailing, and illogical story with a forced-in character with a boring predictable arc (Reva) can. For me it's a relief the character assassination of Obiwan seems to have wound up.The very end was cheering tho makes no sense either, canon or character wise. Kudos to Ewan who deserved better material. What is it about SW and rocks?
Ahsoka didn't pop out of the sands to save the day, so that was different. Mostly think the series had the bones of a good story but was spoiled by bad writing and stupid stuff. Wouldn't mind a Season 2 IF they get better writers and a bigger budget. Also get a kid who actually looks a bit like Luke.

My head canon for Obi will be the very last scenes and that nice hologram speech in Rebels which actually sounds like Obi-Wan. I'll ignore 95% of the dribble of this show.
 
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For the love of all that is good in the world, please, DO NOT do another season of this inane, pointless, trite.

I can't stand BOBF, but after this, if a gun was held to my head to have to suffer through either of these two embarrassments again (I can't believe I'm saying this), I would probably suffer through BOBF before this.

Mother of God, the writing... directing... production value... acting...

Someone put SW out of its misery - PLEASE!
 
He knows who Ben is in A New Hope, and Obi says in this episode that he will keep his distance from now on. You generally don’t form a massive attachment to someone after meeting them once. They are essentially strangers still.
ahh gotcha, its been awhile since i saw ANH but i always got the impression they were strangers or didn't know each other until they finally bumped together when ben scared the tuskens away from him
 
"Ben? Ben Kenobi?! Boy am I glad to see you!"

Seems to me they're acquaintances but never really got to know each other and it's been a while since they last met.
 
For the love of all that is good in the world, please, DO NOT do another season of this inane, pointless, trite.

I can't stand BOBF, but after this, if a gun was held to my head to have to suffer through either of these two embarrassments again (I can't believe I'm saying this), I would probably suffer through BOBF before this.

Mother of God, the writing... directing... production value... acting...

Someone put SW out of its misery - PLEASE!
I mean, I wouldn’t go THAT far…

Continue making Star Wars content please.
 
And the Academy Award for best Crocodile Tears, goes to...

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They still can’t decide if Vader has eyebrows or not.

Original ROTJ he has eyebrows
Rerelease of ROTJ no eyebrows
Rebels eyebrows
This no eyebrows
 
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