**Beware SPOILERS** Obi-Wan Kenobi Series on Disney+ **Beware SPOILERS**

[Khev]

Lol

 

[Victοr]

Some advice for life....stop giving a crap about what people think of you, your hobbies , likes or dislikes.
If your "friends" would judge you for it, find a better class of people to hang with.....like us.

I recently turned 50. My family and friends rented a theater just for our group of 30. We watched Star Wars, My wife bought me a 1/6 figure, my kids picked the movie and theater in secret since it was a surprise, then we all wend to a arcade bar and played coin op games and had a blast.
Point is, my fam and friends all know about my hobbies and loves....they do not care, as long as it makes me happy.

First off, thanks for the interest.

Personally, I simply don't talk about these things with anyone because nobody I know these days is into them. For me, the problem is ultimately personal; I know I have hoarding tendencies so I try to keep myself in check. Hence all the dramatic, sometimes exaggerated, blogposts. Truth be told, writing nonsensical streams of consciousness while shooting the **** and essentially playing a character is useful to me. It's why sometimes I use the phrases I use, the type of rants, and so on. Beyond diaries and journals, I just like writting with no real care about the quality, while having a back-and-forth with others. It's just... fun, I suppose.

Now, if we get down to it, I don't much care what others think in the sense of entertainment. We all have our preferences. But I understand how people would see this as a childish and wasteful hobby. There's no creativity involved (unless you're in customs), and all it entails is just buying things. So a lot would see it as wasteful and would think less of a person. And I understand them. Mostly because I too cannot escape my judgemental nature. I hate football (Soccer for the Yanks) and I immediatelly think a little less of anyone I meet who's into it. I just can't help it. Basketball's different, it's only football I loathe on a visceral level. So I understand how one would take a glance at the general idea of the hobby itself, and construct a negative image. So I don't blame them. Mostly because I know the pitfalls which we fall into in this vice of ours, and I think we can all agree they're severe and harmful. It's one thing collecting, it's another hoarding and losing sight. Which is precisely what an average joe imagines. Not a guy with 20-50 pieces of pristine quality behind a glass case, but a lonely fatso with 150 statues including a naked 300$ X-Woman inside a "special" jar...

If I tell someone that I bought a "sick statue" of Conan that's limited to 500 pieces, they're either not going care or they'll go "wow, sick bro" because people here like Conan. If I tell them the same about Darth Vader or Batman, they'd still understand, because Star Wars and Batman are seen as acceptable all-ages enterainment. If I told them that I collect swords, armours, whatever, they'd find it eccentric but interesting. But no functional adult could hear, out of the blue, "yeah, I buy multiple 300$ dolls of childrens' characters and put them behind glass cases" and not construct an image in their minds. Human relationships are delicate. You have to know when to push and when to pull; when to take it slow. Like I said above, even normies were never weirded out by my WH40K kits, because they saw it as more constructive, I suppose, and the subject matter was somewhat juvenile but still understandable. Painting space soldiers is "weird" but within acceptable range. Collecting pricey dolls is off the mark. It's all about the culture that surrounds you, really.

Ultimately, my problem is that I'm afraid of hoarding. That's what it comes down to. I can't resell figures with where I live (taxes, shipping), so I need to make sure that everything I buy is the one iteration I'll keep forever in my collection. There are some characters where I can juggle doubles, but in general I have an endgame in my mind and I try to keep myself restrained by choosing very specific costumes and incarnations. I skipped Strange and waited for a more comic accurate costume. I skipped T'Challa and waited for a caped version. I skipped Vader because I was waiting for a ROTS or ROTJ version. As the recent QS/JND announcements made evident, new versions will always come out; something shinier will always be in the horizon. Me, I can't do this forever. I'll always keep an eye out for cool collectibles of ~10 characters or thereabouts, but for me this collection is a way to close the chapters of my pop culture obsessed youth. When I started I wanted some basic representations, some very specific teams/displays, and that was it. Since then my list's expanded, and with everything that's going in the world, I want to shrink it a bit, not grow it. That's more or less what I'm trying to avoid.

The TL;DR is that I'm not worried a coworker will find my Doom Shelf creepy, or a girl will run out of the house after seeing my Dark Phoenix Jean dolly. It's trying to find what makes me happy in this hobby as opposed to collecting because of some compulsive need to. This aspect of me I keep for myself and the ones really close to me. Nobody else really needs to know, so I don't much sweat it.

Beyond that, I believe that too much "I don't care for society around me" or "I care too much about what literally anyone thinks" are extremes that sometimes people fall into because they can't cope with the delicate nuance of the world. Which is admittedly hard, but I think we should strive for a balance between the two.

And to bring it back to Obi-Wan, I'll be honest, I'm just here for Vader and Ewan. I want Hayden to get his redemption and I just like McGregor. For me, it'd have been better as a more restrained and experimental, sentimental of sorts, film. With some action yes, but a whole lot more down to Earth and ethereal, so to speak. I don't know if anyone here's seen "Last Days In The Desert", but it's sort of what I'd have liked to see. That crossed with crazy Space Fantasy of course. A ton of Inquisitors in poor makeup just don't excite me.

 

[Victοr]

Lol

Wait... Is that my man Han Seoul-Oh?

I remember when he was cool and had glorious, flowing hair. Now he's just an old man. An old man in makeup playing a random mook. I hate the passage of time...

 

[xipotec]

First off, thanks for the interest.

Personally, I simply don't talk about these things with anyone because nobody I know these days is into them. For me, the problem is ultimately personal; I know I have hoarding tendencies so I try to keep myself in check. Hence all the dramatic, sometimes exaggerated, blogposts. Truth be told, writing nonsensical streams of consciousness while shooting the **** and essentially playing a character is useful to me. It's why sometimes I use the phrases I use, the type of rants, and so on. Beyond diaries and journals, I just like writting with no real care about the quality, while having a back-and-forth with others. It's just... fun, I suppose.

Now, if we get down to it, I don't much care what others think in the sense of entertainment. We all have our preferences. But I understand how people would see this as a childish and wasteful hobby. There's no creativity involved (unless you're in customs), and all it entails is just buying things. So a lot would see it as wasteful and would think less of a person. And I understand them. Mostly because I too cannot escape my judgemental nature. I hate football (Soccer for the Yanks) and I immediatelly think a little less of anyone I meet who's into it. I just can't help it. Basketball's different, it's only football I loathe on a visceral level. So I understand how one would take a glance at the general idea of the hobby itself, and construct a negative image. So I don't blame them. Mostly because I know the pitfalls which we fall into in this vice of ours, and I think we can all agree they're severe and harmful. It's one thing collecting, it's another hoarding and losing sight. Which is precisely what an average joe imagines. Not a guy with 20-50 pieces of pristine quality behind a glass case, but a lonely fatso with 150 statues including a naked 300$ X-Woman inside a "special" jar...

If I tell someone that I bought a "sick statue" of Conan that's limited to 500 pieces, they're either not going care or they'll go "wow, sick bro" because people here like Conan. If I tell them the same about Darth Vader or Batman, they'd still understand, because Star Wars and Batman are seen as acceptable all-ages enterainment. If I told them that I collect swords, armours, whatever, they'd find it eccentric but interesting. But no functional adult could hear, out of the blue, "yeah, I buy multiple 300$ dolls of childrens' characters and put them behind glass cases" and not construct an image in their minds. Human relationships are delicate. You have to know when to push and when to pull; when to take it slow. Like I said above, even normies were never weirded out by my WH40K kits, because they saw it as more constructive, I suppose, and the subject matter was somewhat juvenile but still understandable. Painting space soldiers is "weird" but within acceptable range. Collecting pricey dolls is off the mark. It's all about the culture that surrounds you, really.

Ultimately, my problem is that I'm afraid of hoarding. That's what it comes down to. I can't resell figures with where I live (taxes, shipping), so I need to make sure that everything I buy is the one iteration I'll keep forever in my collection. There are some characters where I can juggle doubles, but in general I have an endgame in my mind and I try to keep myself restrained by choosing very specific costumes and incarnations. I skipped Strange and waited for a more comic accurate costume. I skipped T'Challa and waited for a caped version. I skipped Vader because I was waiting for a ROTS or ROTJ version. As the recent QS/JND announcements made evident, new versions will always come out; something shinier will always be in the horizon. Me, I can't do this forever. I'll always keep an eye out for cool collectibles of ~10 characters or thereabouts, but for me this collection is a way to close the chapters of my pop culture obsessed youth. When I started I wanted some basic representations, some very specific teams/displays, and that was it. Since then my list's expanded, and with everything that's going in the world, I want to shrink it a bit, not grow it. That's more or less what I'm trying to avoid.

The TL;DR is that I'm not worried a coworker will find my Doom Shelf creepy, or a girl will run out of the house after seeing my Dark Phoenix Jean dolly. It's trying to find what makes me happy in this hobby as opposed to collecting because of some compulsive need to. This aspect of me I keep for myself and the ones really close to me. Nobody else really needs to know, so I don't much sweat it.

Beyond that, I believe that too much "I don't care for society around me" or "I care too much about what literally anyone thinks" are extremes that sometimes people fall into because they can't cope with the delicate nuance of the world. Which is admittedly hard, but I think we should strive for a balance between the two.

And to bring it back to Obi-Wan, I'll be honest, I'm just here for Vader and Ewan. I want Hayden to get his redemption and I just like McGregor. For me, it'd have been better as a more restrained and experimental, sentimental of sorts, film. With some action yes, but a whole lot more down to Earth and ethereal, so to speak. I don't know if anyone here's seen "Last Days In The Desert", but it's sort of what I'd have liked to see. That crossed with crazy Space Fantasy of course. A ton of Inquisitors in poor makeup just don't excite me.

I hear and feel ya. I never understood sports TV, I like to PLAY sports, Kayak, and other outdoor stuff, but watching them, spending money on merch, tickets, tv channels….never understood it.

SO that being said, it made me MORE tolerate of the rabid fans I see going to Football (American Style) or Baseball games spending hundred or thousands on that experience. That being said, many years back I parleyed some World Series ticket purchases to finance taking my whole family to the series. Not a huge fan of baseball, as a matter of fact, half the people that went were not either, but it was a great series (went to game 7) and I was really cool watching my dad and brothers freak out when they won in extra innings.

The moral of the story, it makes it easier to hang out with those who like different things if you just enjoy watching them enjoy them, hopefully you can find people in your life (better yet, search for them) whom may not be as excited about your stuff, but love the fact that you love it.

I am unabashed fan of Sci Fi, comics, and film. I just dont need any validation from others. My peeps know this and accept it, and in the case of my wife of 23 years, shes become even more of a nerd than she ever dreamed….huge Marvel/Disney fan. Shes totally into Mando,

Just the other day, a guy asked me what my shirt ment….(It says FLYNN LIVES).

I told him it was from a movie called Tron…he went, “oh yeah, that computer movie. So even “normies” know some things.

You will never releate to all people, but the great news is , you do not have to. The greatest joy in life so far, has been getting to know as many people as I can, and finding those diamonds in the rough that became great friends….even if only for a little while.

You do have to sometimes wade through alot of throw awayable crappy people, with horrible views about the world and the people in it, to find thise diamonds.

See I have to deal with Wor Gar and Jye to get the good people like Khev and Snoopy….

 

[Wor-Gar]

Just the other day, a guy asked me what my shirt ment….(It says FLYNN LIVES).

I understood that reference...

See I have to deal with Wor Gar and Jye to get the good people like Khev and Snoopy….

 

[Darth Snoopy]

See I have to deal with Wor Gar and Jye to get the good people like Khev and Snoopy….

*Hands xipotec the agreed-upon "Get out of Jail Free" card*

*Gets the Ban Hammer ready for Jye*

 

[Victοr]

I hear and feel ya. I never understood sports TV, I like to PLAY sports, Kayak, and other outdoor stuff, but watching them, spending money on merch, tickets, tv channels….never understood it.

Same here. I found that I preferred solo sports. Tennis, Martial Arts, etc. I was never good at team-based ones. I tried Basketball for a bit. I was so awful the ball literally hit me on the head every single time I passed under the net. It was like a curse. Whenever I tried playing football at school, I got hit in the face, the buttocks, the groin, eveyrthing and anything. Which made me a good goalkeeper, but for all the wrong reasons...

SO that being said, it made me MORE tolerate of the rabid fans I see going to Football (American Style) or Baseball games spending hundred or thousands on that experience. That being said, many years back I parleyed some World Series ticket purchases to finance taking my whole family to the series. Not a huge fan of baseball, as a matter of fact, half the people that went were not either, but it was a great series (went to game 7) and I was really cool watching my dad and brothers freak out when they won in extra innings.

I get you. But nobody in my close circle is into these things, so it's unlikely for me to ever be in such a situation. My family's always been a bit weirder than the average here anyhow. Then again, I had the habit of meeting some even weirder genuine wackos, so by contrast I'm normal. Imagine that...

The moral of the story, it makes it easier to hang out with those who like different things if you just enjoy watching them enjoy them, hopefully you can find people in your life (better yet, search for them) whom may not be as excited about your stuff, but love the fact that you love it.

I am unabashed fan of Sci Fi, comics, and film. I just dont need any validation from others. My peeps know this and accept it, and in the case of my wife of 23 years, shes become even more of a nerd than she ever dreamed….huge Marvel/Disney fan. Shes totally into Mando,

All good points. In my case I think it's just the difference in the surrounding culture. Past a certain point, these interests become personal indulgences and stop being discussed. Unless you get really tight with someone to the point where they take a genuine interest in your daily life, hobbies and whatnot, such things won't come up in a discussion. Maybe once in a blue moon by way of the hit new blockbuster, but even then, it's a superficial thing. The idea of the "watercooler show" or "Sundany Night HBO" just isn't part of life here. Even if Netflix and the such changed things, the entire notion of passive entertainment is something that's seen as not important enough to interject even in smalltalk.

Just the other day, a guy asked me what my shirt ment….(It says FLYNN LIVES).

I told him it was from a movie called Tron…he went, “oh yeah, that computer movie. So even “normies” know some things.

Here nobody would know Tron, though something similar could happen with Star Wars. But I get what you're getting at.

Personally I stopped wearing non-collared shirts when I left High School. I guess I took my Doctor Who LARPing a bit too far. But hey, good news, I no longer wear vests to go to the Supermarket, so, see; progress!

You will never releate to all people, but the great news is , you do not have to. The greatest joy in life so far, has been getting to know as many people as I can, and finding those diamonds in the rough that became great friends….even if only for a little while.

You do have to sometimes wade through alot of throw awayable crappy people, with horrible views about the world and the people in it, to find thise diamonds.

Well put. You win some, you lose some, but in the end it's the experience as a whole that remains. Even if said experience makes you want to track them down and break their kneecaps. It's all part of life.

See I have to deal with Wor Gar and Jye to get the good people like Khev and Snoopy….

 

[Wor-Gar]

Same here. I found that I preferred solo sports....

 

[Victοr]

Oh, in other things I prefer Co-Op...

Wanna be my Player 2, or why not, Player 3? We have a saying here; "all the good ones fit"...

 

[xipotec]

 

[ShadowGuardian]

Do you ever have those moments of realisation where you calculate how much you've spent, on what you've spent it all on, and how you're locked in a vicious cycle that'll never be truly over because these are all Pop Culture IPs that exist solely to be milked?

Don't make me confront my inner demons darthkostis.

 

[Victοr]

Don't make me confront my inner demons darthkostis.
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It might be painful, but I think it's something every collector must do. The worst thing we can do is go from enjoying a hobby to turning into hoarders. In this scale and price point, every figure you receive in the mail should be special. When you reach the point where more of them fall in the "oh yeah, chuck it in there with the rest" camp instead of the aforementioned one, it's time for some self-reflection.

 

[Captain Clown]

Yeah, I definitely need to purge my collection. It’s gotten completely stupid.

All the 3.75” Star Wars, 6”-7” DC, Marvel, MOTU + more, some 1/6 I don’t care about anymore, it’s all piled up and it’s to the point where I feel numb to all of it and I buy things just for the hell of it. I feel like I’m “subscribed” to some toy lines and pick up new figures even if I don’t give a crap about them. I got that HasLab Razor Crest which was fun for a day and now I barely look at the damn thing. That was $350 that could’ve gone to literally anything else - not to mention all those little figures adding up - especially army builders and older vehicles that have gone up in value. My girlfriend doesn’t mind and enjoys my hobby, but I just know I must come across like a loser.

I’d love to cut it down to the bare minimum and enjoy one new item every few months, or whenever something actually relevant and sentimental to my interests releases.

Anyway - have a fun Obi Wan Kenobi gif.

 

[Victοr]

Yeah, I definitely need to purge my collection. It’s gotten completely stupid.

All the 3.75” Star Wars, 6”-7” DC, Marvel, MOTU + more, some 1/6 I don’t care about anymore, it’s all piled up and it’s to the point where I feel numb to all of it and I buy things just for the hell of it. I feel like I’m “subscribed” to some toy lines and pick up new figures even if I don’t give a crap about them.

Exactly this right here. I was like that with the other toyline I used to collect. I tried to buy everything because I was caught up in the mindset that, since it was relatively cheap to collect, I might as well get it all. At some point it was just disgusting. No figure meant anything. No team completion changed anything. It was just onto the next one. So I just quit cold turkey and made the full-time jump here. That's what I'm trying to avoid this time.

I got that HasLab Razor Crest which was fun for a day and now I barely look at the damn thing. That was $350 that could’ve gone to literally anything else - not to mention all those little figures adding up - especially army builders and older vehicles that have gone up in value.

If the little ones are piling up, imagine the danger of 1/6th doing the same. When your collection is a warehouse full of boxes, and when all these expensive figures with fabric and good tailoring, are all mashed together and hidden between one another, there's got to be a change. The entire reason we collect this particular scale and line is because we like the realism and want each figure to stand out. They all have to have a story behind them and be a show stealer. I understand getting some Stormies to flank a Vader if you're setting up a display, or buying that missing member you don't care for to complete your favourite 8-people team. But if you fall down the completionism rabbit hole in this scale, you're in a tough situation.

Some perspective in these times doesn't hurt either. The average wage here (I'm going for the middle class, not the mathematical average), is around 1500€. I'm spending 300/figure. The value of money in current society is changing, and everything's rapidly moving. I should be dialing back, not going all out. Even if we rule out nuclear armageddon, prices will keep going up. Unstable periods aren't a time to waste money on "useless" things. I still have the luxury to indulge in this and that vice, but some more restraint never hurt anyboy.

My girlfriend doesn’t mind and enjoys my hobby, but I just know I must come across like a loser.

We talked about in the previous pages, but I do think there is a layer of us that is embarassed about these things when they get out of hand. My 1/6ths don't much bother me because they have a museum-like quality, and that's how I'm treating my collection; a small pop culture museum. But then I see pictures like this:

And... yeah. I don't want to judge too harshly, but I don't think any woman would want that behind her while, you know... We're talking about thousands of years of human history here. We're the first of sorts generation of men to have collections of toys from childrens' media. Personal entertainment is a thing and there are much worse vices out there, but we shouldn't abandon all self-awareness. Just because something feels "good" doesn't mean it is.

I'm not going to apologise for loving Doom and having a shelf of dolls of British men in bowties. I genuinely feel no shame about wanting to have a big Jedi/Sith display or planning my cool X-Team that I'll devote a big, proper diorama to. I've read WH40K novels in coffee shops and in classes. I generally do what I want. But if I ever see myself going towards the above direction with 1/6th, I'm phoning someone close to me to install some sanctions on my person...

I’d love to cut it down to the bare minimum and enjoy one new item every few months, or whenever something actually relevant and sentimental to my interests releases.

That's how I started, and try to keep it. From recent announcements, the QS Paul Atreides is something I'm eagerly anticipating because I genuinely want it. Not because I want to have it just to have it, or because I want to complete a team. That's how every new PO should feel. Or at least close to it. There are few characters that will ever give me that "OH SH-" type of hype, but the closest to that every single figure is, the better.

Anyway - have a fun Obi Wan Kenobi gif.

Have a cute anime Obi-Wan & Satine fanart pic in exchange:

 

[darth dennis]

My very favorite part of these boards is entering a thread, reading a couple of pages of posts for 20 minutes, getting to the end and having no idea what thread I entered in the first place. It always feels like a bunch of 9 year olds just like me in a room just randomly talking about stuff for a few hours. I dig that...

 

[jye4ever]

My very favorite part of these boards is entering a thread, reading a couple of pages of posts for 20 minutes, getting to the end and having no idea what thread I entered in the first place. It always feels like a bunch of 9 year olds just like me in a room just randomly talking about stuff for a few hours. I dig that...

There’s a word for that….

darthkostis lol

 

[Victοr]

My very favorite part of these boards is entering a thread, reading a couple of pages of posts for 20 minutes, getting to the end and having no idea what thread I entered in the first place. It always feels like a bunch of 9 year olds just like me in a room just randomly talking about stuff for a few hours. I dig that...

There’s a word for that….

darthkostis lol

Back in my day, that's what forums used to be about... But in all seriousness, it's mostly due to entertainment fatigue. There's too much, too fast and nothing has any staying power. One door closes, another opens immediately and we're flying from property to property, frantically keeping up with it all. But for every one who tries to do that, there's tons more who stick with one or two things only, leading to smaller userbases and thus less in-depth talk.

Honestly, I see this everywhere. It used to be that new issues would get a 10-page thread discussion. Now they die early on, because the discussions just aren't there. Some are tired of the same old cliches, others have more specific interests and have given up trying to juggle it all, and there's just not the quality that warrants proper talking anymore. Take Kenobi. It launches in 2 months. We just got a teaser which featured about what we'd expect. What's there to truly get into? Boba Fett's thread got all of that traction because of what a car-crash it was and people could have fun picking it apart. Batman being Batman and a 3-hour movie had a lot to get into. The majority of entertainment products just can't generate that.

Me, I just reiterate the same points when the discussion shifts there. I just enjoy writing streams of consciousness and being "raw", instead of getting to the point in fewer lines. Some surely find this annoying, but... eh, I figure it keeps things interesting. It's why I add all the gifs; walls of text can be boring. And I've always seen forums as places to really let loose. I've been in some more "private" ones where people write daily journals of their lives, for all to see, and there's some real personal stuff in there. I'm talking drug overdoses next to a review of a movie. But it helps them. There's both familiarity and the relative anonymity of the online identity. So I don't mind some off-topic talk if it evolves naturally. There's only so much you can say about a product before you run out genuine points to talk about. It's the human element that keeps us coming back.

 

[Neal136]

 

[ZE_501]

And... yeah. I don't want to judge too harshly, but I don't think any woman would want that behind her while, you know...

I don't think that's a practical concern in the situation you illustrated.

We're talking about thousands of years of human history here. We're the first of sorts generation of men to have collections of toys from childrens' media. Personal entertainment is a thing and there are much worse vices out there, but we shouldn't abandon all self-awareness. Just because something feels "good" doesn't mean it is.

Contemporary Western culture is too indulgent on all fronts. This is just a symptom.

 

[jye4ever]

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All his life has he looked away…to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm?

I bet he regrets that **** now lol