**Beware SPOILERS** Obi-Wan Kenobi Series on Disney+ **Beware SPOILERS**
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on the Kenobi note, I am perplexed how people seem to think there is some line in any of the SW films that specifically prevents Obi and Anakin meeting multiple times after He became Vader?
Its all very ambiguous talk, about “last time” and “not felt since”.
Just because you assumed all this time they were referencing to a specific time, does not mean its correct. Thats the head cannon stuff that keeps turning off fans to alot of what Dis is doing. They cannot let go of the ideas in their heads they have made up over the decades. Or they simpley like there imaginary storyline better.
I can say, Last time I posted here I was but a learner, now I am the master….
When exactly did I last post?
The last time you READ a post I did?
The last time I actually posted anywhere on this forum?
Without the post counter and timer, and the ability to read every thread, you would have no idea when the “last time” was….you would only know the last time YOU saw my post somewhere.
Its very very possible to have Obi and Vader meet and fight again without disrupting anything every said in the films.
It all works perfectly fine if the met and dueled after Anakin became Vader, sometime in the past from ANH.
Granted the closer you get to ANH the more silly it will become. but if this show is set when Luke was a child, and ten years have passed since Obi met Vader off world in a battle with inquisitors …..it fits fine.
Especially if we see a Vader in suit whom is still polishing his powers and becoming more and more Darth like every minute against a in his prime Obi, who just beat Anakins ass several years before.
Its all very ambiguous talk, about “last time” and “not felt since”.
Just because you assumed all this time they were referencing to a specific time, does not mean its correct. Thats the head cannon stuff that keeps turning off fans to alot of what Dis is doing. They cannot let go of the ideas in their heads they have made up over the decades. Or they simpley like there imaginary storyline better.
I can say, Last time I posted here I was but a learner, now I am the master….
When exactly did I last post?
The last time you READ a post I did?
The last time I actually posted anywhere on this forum?
Without the post counter and timer, and the ability to read every thread, you would have no idea when the “last time” was….you would only know the last time YOU saw my post somewhere.
Its very very possible to have Obi and Vader meet and fight again without disrupting anything every said in the films.
It all works perfectly fine if the met and dueled after Anakin became Vader, sometime in the past from ANH.
Granted the closer you get to ANH the more silly it will become. but if this show is set when Luke was a child, and ten years have passed since Obi met Vader off world in a battle with inquisitors …..it fits fine.
Especially if we see a Vader in suit whom is still polishing his powers and becoming more and more Darth like every minute against a in his prime Obi, who just beat Anakins ass several years before.
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I know it's around here somewhere, yep here it is...
All bets have been off ever since ESB... when we realized Ben's "He betrayed and murdered your father" was a blatant manipulative lie.
Nothing tops that retcon.
Vader = tells the truth
Ben = tells lies
Nothing tops that retcon.
Vader = tells the truth
Ben = tells lies
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You're technically correct, but I think it's fair to say another confrontation between them violates the spirit if not the letter of the law, as it were.
The phrase in contention is "... last time ... I was but a learner, now I am the master" -- as you point out yourself, the closer it comes to ANH, the sillier a second confrontation becomes, however ... the timelines were all screwed up long before Disney.
In 1977 Obi Wan was older and the Clone Wars -- and Jedi -- were spoken of as if they were further in the past. The PT began to play fast and loose with a lot of that stuff. Lucas was the king of retcons and backpedaling because -- amongst other things -- I'm convinced he never had a concrete plan in spite of his occasional claims to the contrary.
That's one piece of a multi-faceted problem, but it's too broad a generalization in my opinion when the real issue is sloppy execution and a lack of respect for established characters and their legacies, but either you're with me on that or not, so I won't try to change anyone's mind.
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We are already united, in collecting as much literal junk as possible! That money should be going into our retirement accounts, but no: we have GOT to have that life-size Darth Vader. Do not even try to deny! Despite the issues that divide us, we are all smashing that "add to cart" link as much as we can. We at least have that much in common.
Arguing about kitchen droids distracts us all from the implacable approaching old age and death.
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This crowd was very supportive of a Vader ObiWan confrontation between ROTS and ANH and like you Xipo they were chanting “ANH was just misunderstood!”…
Then ajp showed up…
Then ajp showed up…
I think the whole series -- all 8-10 episodes -- should be an endless lightsaber duel between Vader and Kenobi.
Like that endless showdown between cartoon Anakin and Asajj, it just goes on and on, moving from one environment to the next. Whoosh! Whoosh! BAM!!! For 40 minutes at a time.
Until everyone here has had a bloody 'nuff and screams for some genuine story.
Because so far, no Disney Star Wars live-action TV show has added much to the Galaxy far, far away in the way of storylines that impact the fate of that Galaxy. Only the promise of the Rise of Mandalore has been hinted at in S2 of Mando.
Like that endless showdown between cartoon Anakin and Asajj, it just goes on and on, moving from one environment to the next. Whoosh! Whoosh! BAM!!! For 40 minutes at a time.
Until everyone here has had a bloody 'nuff and screams for some genuine story.
Because so far, no Disney Star Wars live-action TV show has added much to the Galaxy far, far away in the way of storylines that impact the fate of that Galaxy. Only the promise of the Rise of Mandalore has been hinted at in S2 of Mando.
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Not me. But I do *watch* a lot of junk (just saw Matrix 4).
I meditate on the inevitability of death every day.
That's why I take care to enjoy both high and low culture, because I'm only coming through once and stories are capable of reflecting us back at ourselves in a meaningful and illuminating way.
Except for BoBF. That didn't reflect ****.
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ajp!
Come on jye we're going after ajp...
Come on jye we're going after ajp...
Ah, Grogu is another... promise of something. Gideon is a promise of something. Jawa boyfriend is a promise of some... thing. But its not a story. Not yet.
Only that dark saber junk and Bo-Katan have the properties of a proper epic story.
Only that dark saber junk and Bo-Katan have the properties of a proper epic story.
I'm not a huge canon person unless it's a bad retcon. The reason I'm turned off Disney Star Wars is because I think it's subpar and it is just a cash grab - Disney doesn't give a crap about its legacy.
I didn't like the PT either other than ROTS.
Disney knows there's always a new generation ahead who knows nothing and thinks anything it sees is for the first time.
Its gonna be a Disneyfied version of the story is older guys would like, and yes its definelty going to be a rehash of safe best for the majority of fans…
I think the only thing that I really wanna know is WTH happened to Obi in thats time that made his hair go white and age so badly….
I guarentee…..they will address it.
Honestly, I think the only way SW get iriginal again is to time jump backward to the Sith Wars. I doubt we will ever see an adult esk SW show. Rogue One is the beat we can ever hope for. Disney is in the child dreams business…..it make better long term customers than the curmudgeon 50 something fanbase that really does not even agree on what they want….
Its mindless entertainment now, not the poo culture icon it was 40 years ago.
and I can live with that. I dreamed of a SW show as a 10 year old, now I have several , and it all good, feeding my inner child. I just turn off the adult film buff for anything SW now.
I am however, worried about Mando season 3. I have zero intereat in the Mandalorian home world and all that infighting nonsense….I REALLY do not wanna see Mando reclaim the throne of Mandalore or Helo someone else do it…
I much prefer the Empire chasing him and Grogu around weekly. , and that will get boring quickly.
I think the only thing that I really wanna know is WTH happened to Obi in thats time that made his hair go white and age so badly….
I guarentee…..they will address it.
Honestly, I think the only way SW get iriginal again is to time jump backward to the Sith Wars. I doubt we will ever see an adult esk SW show. Rogue One is the beat we can ever hope for. Disney is in the child dreams business…..it make better long term customers than the curmudgeon 50 something fanbase that really does not even agree on what they want….
Its mindless entertainment now, not the poo culture icon it was 40 years ago.
and I can live with that. I dreamed of a SW show as a 10 year old, now I have several , and it all good, feeding my inner child. I just turn off the adult film buff for anything SW now.
I am however, worried about Mando season 3. I have zero intereat in the Mandalorian home world and all that infighting nonsense….I REALLY do not wanna see Mando reclaim the throne of Mandalore or Helo someone else do it…
I much prefer the Empire chasing him and Grogu around weekly. , and that will get boring quickly.
Or if, like DCEU, they allow a whole new interpretation to happen simultaneously with another visionary's take on Star Wars. Like a multiverse version -- in another galaxy even farther away.
Man the PT is the best part of Star Wars.
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