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Washington Mutual (WaMu) failed and the Government seized it's assets which will be sold to JPMorgan Chase. It is the single biggest bank failure in American history, with assets valued at $1.9 Billion!
So from past experience, we all know how threads like these go, so I find it ironic that they get started by mods at all.

It stands to reason that, as economies grow, they get bigger and so when anything like this happens, it gets sensationalised as being the biggest. How does 2 billion sit in the scheme of things?

Expansion unabated, is it any wonder the result is collapse? Will the collapse end in rejuvenation, death, or will it turn into a black hole. Hard to say. Horrible to imagine.

From the chicken little standpoint, its easy to rev up the ranks by bleeding all encompassing warnings and saying I told you so. Some people have a vested interest in spreading fear, and use it as an opportunity, and even a control mechanism. Who are they and what do they stand to gain? When is it time to press the button?

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These things have happened in the past and were handled, and this one will be too. Just from the brief quote above, it is being sold off and someone else is ready and willing to absorb the debt.

Time to forget about WaMu and look to JPMorgan Chase and see how much you get back on your dollar. Surely it is the investors who play the stock market who will and ought to suffer the most, as they are the ones who like to play the game, and were happy enough when they were winning, and now get a taste of loosing. No it's not going to be pleasant.

If anything poor people will remain poor and this will bring some people down to the same level. Growing pains. The poor people have to cope and now so will some previously better off ones. The system is set up to repeat itself until we find a better way. And how will we find a better way? By taking a new direction when rebuilding, and not repeating what has been before.
 
This kind of post is why these threads all end up getting locked.

Think before you post - try to be respectful of others.

so let me get this straight.. auto can call mesa uneducated(for proving legit facts) but i cant say.. for auto to prove some dsiputed facts for what mesa was commenting on? being called uneducated just doesnt seem very respectful at all. but thats just my opinion. lol its all good tho well all know how things lean here.
 
I have a high-yield checking account with WaMu, their interest rates were/are unbeatable.

We'll see .....
 
so let me get this straight.. auto can call mesa uneducated(for proving legit facts) but i cant say.. for auto to prove some dsiputed facts for what mesa was commenting on? being called uneducated just doesnt seem very respectful at all.

I agree that the uneducated comment was disrespectful as well.
 
I agree that the uneducated comment was disrespectful as well.

I wasn't bothered by it. There was very little thought put into it, so why take it too seriously. Shoot, I take very few of the comments in these political threads too seriously.

Edit: It's the well thought out and factual posts that make me question my stance that might sting a little. So far, I've seen very little of them.

I know there's got to be some documented reason why everyone thinks Obama is the second coming.

Oh shoot, I just got political, and I said I wouldn't do that in this thread anymore. If someone can show me some stuff (links, news articles, youtube) to support Obama's experience and decision making history, I'll be happy to read it here.




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Well here in Seattle, people who bank with WaMu where having trouble accessing their money. Don't know if that was going on all day or not. I heard this in the early afternoon.
 
Well here in Seattle, people who bank with WaMu where having trouble accessing their money. Don't know if that was going on all day or not. I heard this in the early afternoon.

We have WaMu out here in Phoenix, and there was a local newstory about Wamu going under, and people were making a run ot the bank to withdraw their money, but they were able to do it no problem
 
i had 5 accounts with wamu and after last nights announcement, i had my wife pull the money from my 3 kids savings accounts and our main savings and close them. i had to leave one account open because that account is tied in to all by creditors. i'm thinking about moving everything to B OF A or wells fargo.
 
From the official site:

Here's what this change means for you:


What's different?

  • Your deposits at WaMu are now backed by the financial strength of Chase in addition to continuing to be insured by the FDIC.
  • If you bank at both WaMu and Chase, your deposits continue to be insured separately today just as they were yesterday, and generally will be for another six months. At that time, your deposits will be insured by the FDIC for up to $100,000 per depositor (with an additional $250,000 for self-directed retirement accounts), and will continue to be backed by the strength and security of JPMorgan Chase.

What stays the same?
Continue to bank just as you usually do:

  • same account numbers,
  • same Washington Mutual name on your account,
  • same checks, debit cards, credit cards, deposit slips,
  • same online banking website and passwords,
  • same branches & ATMs,
  • same familiar bankers, and
  • same great service!

What will change?
Soon
  • You'll be able to use over 9,300 Chase ATMs fee-free - jointly, that's 14,000 ATMs for your banking convenience!
In the future
  • You'll begin to see the Chase name on your statements, online, and on your credit cards as they reissue.
  • Your branch will be re-named Chase and you'll be re-issued new debit cards with the Chase name. Until then, bank as you do today.
  • As our systems merge, you'll be able to use any of the Chase branches nationwide. This won't take place this year, and we'll let you know well in advance of any changes.
 
so let me get this straight.. auto can call mesa uneducated(for proving legit facts) but i cant say.. for auto to prove some dsiputed facts for what mesa was commenting on? being called uneducated just doesnt seem very respectful at all. but thats just my opinion. lol its all good tho well all know how things lean here.

Most have missed that one - all posts attacking other members is what I was referring to. If the discussion can't avoid personal attacks then it can't endure.
 
Wells Fargo is in trouble as well as other banks... if something isn't done soon, there will be more to fail.

Anyone know how Wachovia stands?


From what I heard on the news just now Wachovia is screwing with their mortgages as well and is looking to merge with either Citibank or Wells Fargo. So Wells must be doing fine if they are looking to absorb Wachovia.
 
Yes, if you believe Jim Cramer, Wells Fargo is one of 4 banks that are okay.
The others are US Bancorp, Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase (which just bought WaMu in a fire sale).
 
From what I heard on the news just now Wachovia is screwing with their mortgages as well and is looking to merge with either Citibank or Wells Fargo. So Wells must be doing fine if they are looking to absorb Wachovia.

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Congress will be working through all of this weekend I believe. They need to.
 
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